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Thanks for the reply, I was mainly concerned how wall mounted slant boxes near ceiling would work, not so much the SVS speakers themselves just the mounting method. I'm deciding between box design, the slants on wall near ceiling won't work for me as my ceilings are around 8'.5" high. I was hoping you had similar height dimensions and could share your impressions, if I had your ceiling height it would be a no brainer but I don't.

I'll be using the Volt 6 conventional ported boxes, I have to come up with a DIY mount as my ceilings are concrete with steel beams for support. I may have to hire someone to put these up, my age dictates that, I was hoping to take the easy way out with wall mounting near the ceiling but that's a no go....anyway thanks my friend for the reply.

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Thanks for the reply, I was mainly concerned how wall mounted slant boxes near ceiling would work, not so much the SVS speakers themselves just the mounting method. I'm deciding between box design, the slants on wall near ceiling won't work for me as my ceilings are around 8'.5" high. I was hoping you had similar height dimensions and could share your impressions, if I had your ceiling height it would be a no brainer but I don't.

I'll be using the Volt 6 conventional ported boxes, I have to come up with a DIY mount as my ceilings are concrete with steel beams for support. I may have to hire someone to put these up, my age dictates that, I was hoping to take the easy way out with wall mounting near the ceiling but that's a no go....anyway thanks my friend for the reply.

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Jeff: Is mounting the volt 6 straight to the ceiling an option? If so remove the driver and drill through the back of the speaker into the ceiling. Go to your local hardware store and tell them u need an anchor/bolt for concrete. I'm assuming these are for Atmos use? If not then disregard this post.
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I seriously can't fathom how you guys with the big dawg subs can stand it. Currently watching Mad Max at -12 and my kidneys feel like they're going to explode!
They probably made this one for the cost of one of the hot rods in MMFR..

EDIT---does anyone know why my link isn't to the 49 second mark? I'm using the extension =0m49s ?

Anyway, skip to 49 seconds


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You'll be more than happy with the Volt 6's
Yeah I know that, you don't have yours mounted on for Atmos do you, or are you not using them for Atmos? Thanks.
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Jeff: Is mounting the volt 6 straight to the ceiling an option? If so remove the driver and drill through the back of the speaker into the ceiling. Go to your local hardware store and tell them u need an anchor/bolt for concrete. I'm assuming these are for Atmos use? If not then disregard this post.
Yeah Mike they're for Atmos and I'm familiar with the anchor bolts but I don't know if mounting them like that would be OK. I wanted some type of option to tilt one way or another unless that's not needed for Atmos. Matter of fact I don't know the proper placement for the four speakers. I've heard the fronts should be about 6' in front of the MLP and the backs about the same distance to MLP, correct me if I'm wrong. Attaching directly into ceiling is definitely an option, save me a lot of hassle as well. Thanks
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Thanks for the reply, I was mainly concerned how wall mounted slant boxes near ceiling would work, not so much the SVS speakers themselves just the mounting method. I'm deciding between box design, the slants on wall near ceiling won't work for me as my ceilings are around 8'.5" high. I was hoping you had similar height dimensions and could share your impressions, if I had your ceiling height it would be a no brainer but I don't.

I'll be using the Volt 6 conventional ported boxes, I have to come up with a DIY mount as my ceilings are concrete with steel beams for support. I may have to hire someone to put these up, my age dictates that, I was hoping to take the easy way out with wall mounting near the ceiling but that's a no go....anyway thanks my friend for the reply.

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I'd probably stick with the traditional box then for more mounting versatility. Also, if you ever want to repurpose them the bookshelves will have you covered. I don't blame you for wanting to hire someone to ceiling mount, especially for concrete and metal.

I've almost bought a pair of Volt-6 half a dozen times just to try them out, and I don't really have an excuse not to. I could really use their efficiency and clarity for my front two Atmos speakers, because they're mounted 14-15' from the MLP.

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Yeah I know that, you don't have yours mounted on for Atmos do you, or are you not using them for Atmos? Thanks.
Currently using them as front heights and sr/sl.
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I'd probably stick with the traditional box then for more mounting versatility. Also, if you ever want to repurpose them the bookshelves will have you covered. I don't blame you for wanting to hire someone to ceiling mount, especially for concrete and metal.

I've almost bought a pair of Volt-6 half a dozen times just to try them out, and I don't really have an excuse not to. I could really use their efficiency and clarity for my front two Atmos speakers, because they're mounted 14-15' from the MLP.

Keep us posted!
I hear you my friend, mounted that high up and away from your MLP could be a problem with the SVS's, the Volts are a breeze to assemble and are very efficient and can play loud and clear. You really don't even need clamps to assemble them and they're baltic birch. I keep you posted what I come up with, definitely the rectangle boxes.......
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I hope someone can help me here...I contacted KEF support about understanding their app and the subwoofer options.

The app has two options for subwoofer output "Subwoofer Volume" and "Subwoofer Gain"

I emailed them asking to help me understand the difference, and this is what I got:
Hi, The Subwoofer Volume setting allows you to independently control the lo-pass output to the auxiliary subwoofer. The Sub Gain allows independent control of the subwoofer audio output which is helpful in balancing the output of the LS50 Wireless with the output of an auxiliary subwoofer.

What I am still confused about is how is it different...in both cases you are adjusting the output by altering voltage, no?

They also claim that the gain on the sub is best placed near max levels, and then just adjust output from the Speakers' DSP.
Is this true for the amp in the s3000i? Does it operate best at a certain gain level?

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I seriously can't fathom how you guys with the big dawg subs can stand it. Currently watching Mad Max at -12 and my kidneys feel like they're going to explode! This is only with a 15v and v1500 lol!!
Not surprised!! A pair of 15's is still a very potent combination in most normal sized rooms.
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It's gonna be a great year though. I'll upgrade from XS30SE's to S3601's and get some MT-110's! I can't wait!
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Okay, I've never seen that movie but now that I've watched that 53 second clip I'm going to have to watch it. WOW!

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I know I really dont need to , but yesterday we got some electrical work done in the house before we start the remodel which allowed me to move some things around and try to get a better sound with the V15's incorporated with the 1801's. I have the 1801's in the right corner and about the middle of the front wall. I tucked a V15 into the back right corner , but then saw one lonely V15 just sitting there , bassless and felt bad...I scooted it over next to the middle wall 1801 but ran out of time to hook him up...The sound so far with the V15 in the back is somewhere between OK and Good..I dont think im getting half of what it should be doing at the moment and turning the V15 off , I sometimes think the 1801's are better by themselves....Im still halfway tempted to stack and make my V3300.5 FrankenWoofer come alive...I may do it for the giggles , but doubt Id get away with it from the other half... But im a habitual line-stepper , so we'll see how that goes...
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Here is all the new 01 series subs output numbers in 1 post.


V1801


With the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 120.1
31-50hz ~ 129.5
63-100hz ~129.6
16-100hz ~ 127.4

Without the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 118.2
31-50hz ~ 129.4
63-100hz ~ 129.5
16-100hz ~ 125.7

That's all referenced to 1m/peak. Subtract 9 for 2m/rms.


S1801




With the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 113.5
31-50hz ~ 126.6
63-100hz ~128.6
16-100hz ~ 125.2

Without the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 112.4
31-50hz ~ 126.5
63-100hz ~ 128.7
16-100hz ~ 122.5

That's all referenced to 1m/peak. Subtract 9 for 2m/rms.




V3601



With the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 125.2
31-50hz ~ 132.5
63-100hz ~135.3
16-100hz ~ 132.0

Without the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 123.4
31-50hz ~ 132.4
63-100hz ~ 135.3
16-100hz ~ 130.4

That's all referenced to 1m/peak. Subtract 9 for 2m/rms.


S3601



With the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 117.3
31-50hz ~ 131.1
63-100hz ~134.5
16-100hz ~ 130.1

Without the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 115.7
31-50hz ~ 130.8
63-100hz ~ 134.5
16-100hz ~ 127.0

That's all referenced to 1m/peak. Subtract 9 for 2m/rms.
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Thanks Bass! That's very helpful
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I know I really dont need to , but yesterday we got some electrical work done in the house before we start the remodel which allowed me to move some things around and try to get a better sound with the V15's incorporated with the 1801's. I have the 1801's in the right corner and about the middle of the front wall. I tucked a V15 into the back right corner , but then saw one lonely V15 just sitting there , bassless and felt bad...I scooted it over next to the middle wall 1801 but ran out of time to hook him up...The sound so far with the V15 in the back is somewhere between OK and Good..I dont think im getting half of what it should be doing at the moment and turning the V15 off , I sometimes think the 1801's are better by themselves....Im still halfway tempted to stack and make my V3300.5 FrankenWoofer come alive...I may do it for the giggles , but doubt Id get away with it from the other half... But im a habitual line-stepper , so we'll see how that goes...
Keep plugging away and you will find the sweet spot! Once you find the right combination of placement and delay settings, it will be like a light switch!!
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Keep plugging away and you will find the sweet spot! Once you find the right combination of placement and delay settings, it will be like a light switch!!
Do you think that the 1801's up front should be at 0 delay since their sound has been established per se' , and the delay on the V15's should be adjusted to suit the 1801's?

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That is a good starting point but you may need to end up adding a little delay to the 1801's as well. I would start with the 1801's at 0, and if the 15's are about 15ft away or so try the delay around 10-11:00 on those.
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Come on guys. There have to be more people that can share their experience with the V1801s. They were flying off the shelf so I know there are many more out there with this sub.


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Soooooooooooo Basshead…... Is it safe to assume that you are keeping the V1801 since you've changed your avatar to the V1801?
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Soooooooooooo Basshead…... Is it safe to assume that you are keeping the V1801 since you've changed your avatar to the V1801?

still have 30days to decide.
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LOL… You don't commit easy. Did your wife have to wait a long time before you popped the question?
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Come on guys. There have to be more people that can share their experience with the V1801s. They were flying off the shelf so I know there are many more out there with this sub.


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I received mine back in early April. It is what everyone says it is- a very high quality sub. It easily handles everything I throw at it. My HT chairs shake when watching bass heavy material. I also think it is a good looking sub that the size not being overwhelming. I haven't totally dialed it in yet because of HT renovations but doing it by ear probably has me close. During the train scene in the Polar Express it sounds like the train is in the room. Sometimes my ears feel like I'm diving in the deep end of a pool. It even cures baldness. Very happy with the purchase.


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I had a passive 20-39 SVS Cylinder for 14 years. I liked the sub but needed more. Really no comparison.
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I had a passive 20-39 SVS Cylinder for 14 years. I liked the sub but needed more. Really no comparison.


Yep. I will soon be upgrading from a SVS PC12 NSD to hopefully dual V1801s.


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Yep. I will soon be upgrading from a SVS PC12 NSD to hopefully dual V1801s.


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Your going to be very happy.


I can't even imagine what the sound would be like. My single SVS shakes my 2100 cuft media room so dual 18s.....


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