Originally Posted by Pulloutchamp
Good lord , I dont know what happened between the day before and yesterday but I am liking it! I got home from work yesterday and had some people working outside , so I stayed in and played some music off youtube. The S36's just seemed to come ALIVE! I didnt change any settings , but it they seemed like a completely different sub! Sometimes I get the feeling that unplugging , powering off , connecting , disconnecting subs screws with my AVR and that it cuts the signal to the sub or something and that a day or 2 later it goes back to normal.
I played mainly Bass-y music , hip-hop and electronic stuff , and everything just sounded so clear. I even turned down the treble on the AVR into the negative which is a first , not sure how that correlates with the sub but I usually have it at a +1 - +3. Deep bass notes would flex the TV like I hadnt seen before and just pressurize the room. Mid-bass was sharp and just sounded and felt perfect to me. I thought TR would go down in a largish room on a concrete slab? I am getting plenty.
Right now , I dont even want to hook the V18's back up! I know I will , but the level of satisfaction I have right now makes me not even want to think twice , but the wallet is saying "Maybe you should take another listen?!!?" I think the S36's are giving me the improvement that I was looking for. Deep pressurization , lower extension , and just all around improvement without any worries of port noise! The V36's would have just been overkill , and even these S36's are just about to that point.
The biggest thing I am noticing at the moment is just the clarity of the bass. I know when I heard Marc's F18's they were just quiet while making noise. If that makes any sense? I thought all of the ported ones were just a bit noisy when pushed hard. Could be why I felt that the treble was just a bit to bright now? Either way , after the first day I was a bit on the fence about the V18 vs S36. That the S36 was an improvement but I didnt know if it was worth an X amount of dollars improvement? Well yesterday changed that!
Im not sure what brought about the change , again I suspect my AVR acts weird with new subs. Doesnt make sense I know but it has happened to me a few times before where the subs are almost lifeless for a day or so. Right now , I say the S36 is definitely worth the X dollar amount and if it wasnt for the fact of this forum , I would just box up the V18 and call it a day. But maybe one day someone might find this useful so I will throw the V18's back on in a couple days and have another go with them. They have their work cut out for themselves!
P.S. - Had to be an ass with the paragraph thing at least once
You were entirely successful!
The psycho-acoustic aspect of how and what we hear is extremely interesting to me. And, FWIW, I believe that could help to explain what you are experiencing. I think that there could be two separate phenomena at work. The first might be termed acclimation. Our "ears" (actually meaning our brains) start to become accustomed to a new sound fairly quickly, and as that happens, the sound becomes more natural and pleasing to us.
The second factor seems to directly contradict the first one, but I think it is a distinctly separate phenomenon. In a nutshell, I don't believe that our brains react in exactly the same way to sounds (or smells, or tastes, or colors) on different days. So, one day a particular food tastes just right. On another day, the same food, prepared in exactly the same way, may seem too sweet, or too salty, or too whatever. I think that you could make the same analogy to any of our other senses, including sound.
Sometimes I will start to listen to music, which is a continuation of something I was listening to the day before, and I will have to check my settings to make sure that I didn't inadvertently change something, because the amount of bass seems entirely different, or because the high frequencies sound brighter, etc. Over the years, I have become convinced that my brain simply does not react to external stimulus in exactly the same way, all of the time. Perhaps I just have a defective brain.
Or, perhaps this is a more common occurrence than we may fully appreciate.
To tie those two phenomena together, I believe that we do become generally more acclimated to a new sound fairly quickly, so that it sounds natural and appropriate to us. That's why acoustic memory is considered so unreliable. But, I also believe that, on any given day, things in our system may sound slightly different to us than they did the day before. And, the reason for the difference in sound may lie within us rather than within the sound itself. Of course, all bets are off when we listen to different material from different sources, or to different movies, because there really may be significant differences in the sound, in that case.
In any event, it sounds as if you have found a sound you really like, and that the S3601's are there to stay.