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I'm curious as to how the new 7201 stacks up against the s2? Decisions


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Hi David,

The S2 is an outstanding sub, but I'm betting that the S7201 will take it down. And, why wouldn't it, with 4 18" drivers and an even larger cabinet volume?

Bear123 noted, on the previous page, that the 7201 can do 117db at 20Hz without visible compression, and that the CEA max burst numbers should be even higher. That sounds right to me. Well, if you compare the S2 max burst at 20Hz, it's "only" 112.1 db. 5db is already a large difference, and as noted the 7201 max burst number should be even higher than 117db. http://www.data-bass.com/systems

The 7201 appears to have even more SPL at 20Hz than an Orbit Shifter (which loses ground to the S2 below 20Hz, due to the nature of its horn design). And, unlike the Orbit Shifter, the 7201 should continue to carry high SPL all of the way down to 10Hz and below.

Again, the S2 is an extremely impressive sealed sub, but I believe that there is a new king of the mountain among sealed subs. Sic gloria transit mundi. And, Tuesday is often worse.

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Hi David,

The S2 is an outstanding sub, but I'm betting that the S7201 will take it down. And, why wouldn't it, with 4 18" drivers and an even larger cabinet volume?

Bear123 noted, on the previous page, that the 7201 can do 117db at 20Hz without visible compression, and that the CEA max burst numbers should be even higher. That sounds right to me. Well, if you compare the S2 max burst at 20Hz, it's "only" 112.1 db. 5db is already a large difference, and as noted the 7201 max burst number should be even higher than 117db. http://www.data-bass.com/systems

The 7201 appears to have even more SPL at 20Hz than an Orbit Shifter (which loses ground to the S2 below 20Hz, due to the nature of its horn design). And, unlike the Orbit Shifter, the 7201 should continue to carry high SPL all of the way down to 10Hz and below.

Again, the S2 is an extremely impressive sealed sub, but I believe that there is a new king of the mountain among sealed subs. Sic gloria transit mundi. And, Tuesday is often worse.

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Makes sense to me man, that is one of the limitations of only measuring FR.

You first graph does look good and I bet it sounds stellar. All that effort should give you extra confidence in the original location, and now you can enjoy it free of the "what if?".

Enjoy my friend!


Thanks to everyone for the input. Surely ruled out the what ifs and also confirmed to me that something that looks good may not sound good or at least as good. With the drivers pointed at me I feel the impact a lot more and in a cleaner way. The only I would have known that is to test it with the driver facing away. Quite interesting how subtle changes in bass affects the impact and clarity though it may sound louder.


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S7201
16Hz - 25Hz:124.1 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:137.3 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:142.4 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:137.2 dB


V3601
16Hz - 25Hz:125.2 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:132.5 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:135.3 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:132.0 dB

I pulled this right from the website as it now has been updated... all subs have cea2010 data and compression sweeps. Something does not add up here because how can the S7201 best the V3601 in compression testing but end up with less cea2010 max burst output in the 16-25hz? The Cap 1400 has been said to have the edge over a V3601 down low, so it's hard to imagine the S7201 could beat a S2 by 5db. JTR stuff is not going to easily be beat in raw output...5db is a lofty margin. It takes basically 2 of the PSA 18" drivers to match a JTR driver in linear excursion. So the advantage the 7201 would have over the S2 is cab volume and a maybe a couple db due to the push pull setup, but the S2 drivers still have more excursion capability...power is moot between the 2. I love my PSA gear but I am just keeping it real.

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S7201
16Hz - 25Hz:124.1 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:137.3 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:142.4 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:137.2 dB


V3601
16Hz - 25Hz:125.2 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:132.5 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:135.3 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:132.0 dB

I pulled this right from the website as it now has been updated... all subs have cea2010 data and compression sweeps. Something does not add up here because how can the S7201 best the V3601 in compression testing but end up with less cea2010 max burst output in the 16-25hz? The Cap 1400 has been said to have the edge over a V3601 down low, so it's hard to imagine the S7201 could beat a S2 by 5db. JTR stuff is not going to easily be beat in raw output...5db is a lofty margin. It takes basically 2 of the PSA 18" drivers to match a JTR driver in linear excursion. So the advantage the 7201 would have over the S2 is cab volume and a maybe a couple db due to the push pull setup, but the S2 drivers still have more excursion capability...power is moot between the 2. I love my PSA gear but I am just keeping it real.
You may very well be correct! And, I like your objectivity. It's hard to reconcile those two sets of numbers. I thought that the compression test might be a more accurate way to look at the S7201's 20Hz performance. As soon as we start trying to make frequency-specific comparisons between subs from different companies or sometimes as you note above, between subs from the same companies, we run into hard to explain differences in the way that data is portrayed.

Not to beat a dead horse, but, I wish that everyone would test using the same 2m ground plane method, and show CEA max burst numbers by frequency in the same way that Data-Bass does. That would make apples-to-apples comparisons of that particular metric so much easier. I certainly understand that there are other important ways to measure performance, but these conversations always end up talking about max burst, so it would certainly help with that at least.

I have thought from the beginning that the S7201 would outperform the S2, but perhaps I have been misled by the sheer size of the sub. Perhaps the drivers are a wash (double the number, but with less excursion) and the power certainly is. As we see more in-room measurements, which we eventually will, I think that will help to clarify the S7201's actual performance capabilities. But, if 117db at 20Hz, with no compression is correct, I don't see how the 7201 doesn't have even more low bass SPL than the S2.

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Just wanted to say thanks to Tom for a great deal on a b stock V-1801! It's cosmetically perfect as far as I can tell and a real beast of course. Pairs much better with my PC12 plus than the PB12 NSD I had been using.

One thing I was wondering... has anyone removed the feet on theirs? I'm using it on carpet so it seems like the feet might not be necessary. And when moving my 6 year old PB12 out of the room I noticed it shedding black particles on my carpet. So was just thinking it might be best to remove them if they're not needed.

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I'm assuming you got one of the three V1801s that I brought down to PSA HQs, I can tell you that they are cosmetically perfect, mechanically and electronically sound with very few hours of use, I see there is only one left in the outlet, glad you had the opportunity to get one, you're going to be pleasantly surprised in a good way. You don't need the feet especially on carpet, you could just try to find some very small furniture sliders to place under the rubber feet which will make moving the sub around a lot easier.

I made special wooden feet for them with a slider screwed on and threaded into the base of the V18, I like the subs to be an inch or so above the carpet, they didn't sink into my thicker carpet, if you prefer to remove them by all means do so, no harm whatsoever...enjoy...
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You may very well be correct! And, I like your objectivity. It's hard to reconcile those two sets of numbers. I thought that the compression test might be a more accurate way to look at the S7201's 20Hz performance. As soon as we start trying to make frequency-specific comparisons between subs from different companies or sometimes as you note above, between subs from the same companies, we run into hard to explain differences in the way that data is portrayed.

Not to beat a dead horse, but, I wish that everyone would test using the same 2m ground plane method, and show CEA max burst numbers by frequency in the same way that Data-Bass does. That would make apples-to-apples comparisons of that particular metric so much easier. I certainly understand that there are other important ways to measure performance, but these conversations always end up talking about max burst, so it would certainly help with that at least.

I have thought from the beginning that the S7201 would outperform the S2, but perhaps I have been misled by the sheer size of the sub. Perhaps the drivers are a wash (double the number, but with less excursion) and the power certainly is. As we see more in-room measurements, which we eventually will, I think that will help to clarify the S7201's actual performance capabilities. But, if 117db at 20Hz, with no compression is correct, I don't see how the 7201 doesn't have even more low bass SPL than the S2.

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My understanding is that doubling the enclosure volume could gain you a potential 3db in the low bass. The S7201 is larger and more expensive, one would expect it to outperform the S2. The JTR drivers are rated at 33mm, I would think the PSA ones are more than 17mm.
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S7201
16Hz - 25Hz:124.1 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:137.3 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:142.4 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:137.2 dB


V3601
16Hz - 25Hz:125.2 dB
31Hz - 50Hz:132.5 dB
63Hz - 100Hz:135.3 dB
16Hz - 100Hz:132.0 dB

I pulled this right from the website as it now has been updated... all subs have cea2010 data and compression sweeps. Something does not add up here because how can the S7201 best the V3601 in compression testing but end up with less cea2010 max burst output in the 16-25hz? The Cap 1400 has been said to have the edge over a V3601 down low, so it's hard to imagine the S7201 could beat a S2 by 5db. JTR stuff is not going to easily be beat in raw output...5db is a lofty margin. It takes basically 2 of the PSA 18" drivers to match a JTR driver in linear excursion. So the advantage the 7201 would have over the S2 is cab volume and a maybe a couple db due to the push pull setup, but the S2 drivers still have more excursion capability...power is moot between the 2. I love my PSA gear but I am just keeping it real.

Good observations basshead. The differently designed subs certainly makes it a little more difficult to do an apples to apples comparison so you make some very strong points. I would think S7201 would have the edge but it's hard to know how much...

On another note, based on the numbers you posted it looks like dual V3601's are about equal to a single S7201... With the edge going to the dual V3601's from 16 to 25 Hz and the edge going to S7201 from 30 to 100 Hz. That's a strong statement for the power of the S7201 because dual V3601's are no slouch.

Personally, I would love to compare a S7201 to V3601's but it would take a little work. However, I'm willing to make the sacrifice for you guys. So if Tom and Jim would like to donate a S7201 for that type of one on one comparison I would be willing to do it. Just send one my way and I'll get right on it. What can I say... I'm a giver.

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Man, every time we add a graph to the website it reminds me why we should never add anything ever again

So much confusion and misinformation posted as fact, I'm not ever sure where to start.

1) compression graphs and cea-2010 are two completely different measurements. Just because one sub has an edge in a narrow operating bandwidth on one is no indication you should assume that same edge will always be reflected in the other.

2) there is no industry standard for compression measurements so anyone assuming they can take charts measured by two different sources without even knowing all the details on the exact measurement method---well, you cannot. Our purpose with the compression charts is to add another way for customers to compare products within our own product lineup.

3) the vented reference(v3601 vs jtr) is totally irrelevant and just adds more confusion to something not being understood very well to begin with.


Given the lack of understanding regarding all of the above I would avoid comparing products based on compression charts provided by different sources.

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Wow, I just looked over the new PSA website. You guys are right, it's really full of information. There's more information there than in any other manufacturers website I've looked at. That should prove to be extremely useful for people shopping.

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I for one don't really care for graphs and all that stuff, all I know is my subs are killing it over here. Just finished Jupiter Ascending and currently watching Kong Skull Island.
These puppies never fail to disappoint and always surprise me with their capabilities.
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I for one don't really care for graphs and all that stuff, all I know is my subs are killing it over here. Just finished Jupiter Ascending and currently watching Kong Skull Island.
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Jupiter Ascending was giving me an as$ whooping last night
Omg you're not kidding! Bass fest and crazy visuals. Wish I sprung for the 4k version but the regular blu ray was still amazing.
Funny side story, yesterday an old buddy stopped by and saw the two v1500's and was like, "Are those subwoofers?!?"
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Jupiter Ascending was giving me an as$ whooping last night
Mike, I admit the movie had some nice bass but how could you sit through that entire movie, maybe it's just me but I have to have something worth watching besides just listening to it.
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Man, every time we add a graph to the website it reminds me why we should never add anything ever again

So much confusion and misinformation posted as fact, I'm not ever sure where to start.

1) compression graphs and cea-2010 are two completely different measurements. Just because one sub has an edge in a narrow operating bandwidth on one is no indication you should assume that same edge will always be reflected in the other.

2) there is no industry standard for compression measurements so anyone assuming they can take charts measured by two different sources without even knowing all the details on the exact measurement method---well, you cannot. Our purpose with the compression charts is to add another way for customers to compare products within our own product lineup.

3) the vented reference(v3601 vs jtr) is totally irrelevant and just adds more confusion to something not being understood very well to begin with.


Given the lack of understanding regarding all of the above I would avoid comparing products based on compression charts provided by different sources.

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Thanks Tom for your feedback, it's always good to hear straight from the horse's mouth, what you said changes one's perspective of exactly what is going on with the graphs, I for one don't jump to conclusions, I realize these graphs are meant to compare PSA subwoofers to one another and help a consumer decide how they correlate to their needs and what to expect from a particular model. They are in my opinion not indicative how they will measure in my space. I don't know your measurement methodology nor do I care to, my only concern is if it's relevant to what I'm considering and what model it pertains too, period.

Thank you and Jim (Justin too) for all that you do for this Family of audio enthusiasts, your relentless pursuit of customer satisfaction and new product development is second to none, (no offense to non PSA owners), I'm just giving credit where it's due.

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My understanding is that doubling the enclosure volume could gain you a potential 3db in the low bass. The S7201 is larger and more expensive, one would expect it to outperform the S2. The JTR drivers are rated at 33mm, I would think the PSA ones are more than 17mm.

Look at it this way. the S7201 has less output in the 16-25hz compared to a V3601 by 1db. The V3601 has slightly less output then a Cap1400 @ 20hz and the S2 is down 1db from a 1400. So from that aspect, they should be fairly close in the ultra low bass with the S7201 pulling away above 50hz. Similar to how the V3601 compares to the Cap1400. PSA stuff excels in the mid upper bass, JTR stuff excels in the ultra low bass because the drivers have more linear excursion capability...both are very good products. I am just saying that I just don't see the S7201 besting a Cap S2 +5db at 20hz. At 60hz I could see it being plausible.


Edit* That being said there is more to a sub then 20hz output. I am betting overall the S7201 sounds more powerful then any sub being mentioned with regular source material and not demo scenes or test tones. Folks tend to forget that 90% of the time the sub is playing frequencies above 40hz. I have been thoroughly enjoying Climber's posts about his new toy!!

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Omg you're not kidding! Bass fest and crazy visuals. Wish I sprung for the 4k version but the regular blu ray was still amazing.
That's so funny that Jupiter Ascending is making a comeback. I remember watching it two years ago and IMO it ranked up there as one of the top three or four bass movies of 2015 (and that's the year Mad Max Fury Road came out). A lot of guys didn't like the movie but I didn't mind it and as you guys have said... it's a great bass fest. It also has stunning visuals that look great in 4K (or even on bluray for that matter). It's a movie that will make your subwoofers work that's for certain.
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I have been thoroughly enjoying Climber's posts about his new toy!!
Climber's posts are great! But they're taking a toll on me. They're making me really want to experience that sub. I've started to seriously wonder what dual S7201's would be like in my room. No matter how you look at it the S7201 ranks up there as one of the top sealed subs roaming wild out there and I really want to hear it!
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Climber's posts are great! But they're taking a toll on me. They're making me really want to experience that sub. I've started to seriously wonder what dual S7201's would be like in my room. No matter how you look at it the S7201 ranks up there as one of the top sealed subs roaming wild out there and I really want to hear it!
I agree 100%...I am really digging it.
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Climber's posts are great! But they're taking a toll on me. They're making me really want to experience that sub. I've started to seriously wonder what dual S7201's would be like in my room. No matter how you look at it the S7201 ranks up there as one of the top sealed subs roaming wild out there and I really want to hear it!
The S7201 is making me fat and lazy. Since I got this sub, all I want to do is listen to music and watch movies. I'm watching San Andreas (DVD) right now work my son at his request. The Hoover Dam just failed and my body is still tingling from the TR in the floor and chairs. The extension on this bad boy is amazing, not to mention the absolutely raw power in the rest of the range as well.

Before, with my other two subs (XV15SE), I was always maxing them out at -10 db in heavy bass movies and worried about them. The S7201 is another story all together. I no longer worry about reference bass heavy scenes as this puppy has power and headroom to spare.

The S7201 is massive and has placement limitations but I'd say that anyone that had the room for one should definitely have one. Two of these beasts would be the absolute ULTIMATE in bass.

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Mike, I admit the movie had some nice bass but how could you sit through that entire movie, maybe it's just me but I have to have something worth watching besides just listening to it.
I did almost give up on it 30 minutes in and I did take a 30-minute intermission as I had to get my youngest to bed which was a fight. The movie wasn't that bad and Mila is always nice to look at and the bass seemed to be in almost every scene. I figure for $9.99, great bass with Atmos audio and you throw Mila in the mix it was worth 2 hours of my time.
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Good grief why am I contemplating trading my subs for two s7201's!
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The S7201 is making me fat and lazy. Since I got this sub, all I want to do is listen to music and watch movies. I'm watching San Andreas (DVD) right now work my son at his request. The Hoover Dam just failed and my body is still tingling from the TR in the floor and chairs. The extension on this bad boy is amazing, not to mention the absolutely raw power in the rest of the range as well.

Before, with my other two subs (XV15SE), I was always maxing them out at -10 db in heavy bass movies and worried about them. The S7201 is another story all together. I no longer worry about reference bass heavy scenes as this puppy has power and headroom to spare.

The S7201 is massive and has placement limitations but I'd say that anyone that had the room for one should definitely have one. Two of these beasts would be the absolute ULTIMATE in bass.
I want to say San Andreas is neutered below 30hz but I'm like you give me bass at any frequency and I'm happy. One thing I keep noticing about your post is the word DVD, you need to feed that beast lossless audio and let that bad boy shine

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Mike, I admit the movie had some nice bass but how could you sit through that entire movie, maybe it's just me but I have to have something worth watching besides just listening to it.
I did almost give up on it 30 minutes in and I did take a 30-minute intermission as I had to get my youngest to bed which was a fight. The movie wasn't that bad and Mila is always nice to look and the bass seemed to be in almost every scene. I figure for $9.99, great bass with Atmos audio and you throw Mila in the mix it was worth 2 hours of my time.
The bass, cinematography, and Mila make it easy to watch.
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The bass, cinematography, and Mila make it easy to watch.
I concur!!!!

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The bass, cinematography, and Mila make it easy to watch.


Alright, you guys have done it. I fell asleep (literally) trying to watch this movie the first time, but now I am convinced I should try again.

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Alright, you guys have done it. I fell asleep (literally) trying to watch this movie the first time, but now I am convinced I should try again.

I hope you're happy with yourselves.


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Good grief why am I contemplating trading my subs for two s7201's!
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No!!! Don't fight it! Do it!

I absolutely think you should trade in all your subs and get dual S7201's. I don't know why you wouldn't. Really when you think about it you deserve them because you work hard and you've earned them. You owe it to yourself. 😇

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No!!! Don't fight it! Do it!

I absolutely think you should trade in all your subs and get dual S7201's. I don't know why you wouldn't. Really when you think about it you deserve them because you work hard and you've earned them. You owe it to yourself. 😇
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