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Did SVS sub numbers fall off or something? Isn't the XV15's competition the PB12-NSD? Looking at audioholics numbers, one sub appears to be better than the other.
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Did SVS sub numbers fall off or something? Isn't the XV15's competition the PB12-NSD? Looking at audioholics numbers, one sub appears to be better than the other.

No the NSD can’t compare to the XV in output. I hear the XV is closer/very close to the Plus which is a quite substantual sub. nuet brought up a thought though.. I think it was HSU that came up with the cylinder first as far as ID Co.’s go.

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Is audioholics THD numbers important or not? XV has double the THD of the PB12-NSD.
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All things being equal(performance, reliability, customer service, etc) SVS offerings appear to target customers who are concerned about aesthetics(size, finish, reputation). I think every company targets a specific need whether by design or just the evolution of their competition. I will always have a soft spot for SVS.biggrin.gif

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. . . but I guess you kind of waived any legal recourse though if something goes deeply wrong.

Not sure what you mean by this.

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All things being equal(performance, reliability, customer service, etc) SVS offerings appear to target customers who are concerned about aesthetics(size, finish, reputation). I think every company targets a specific need whether by design or just the evolution of their competition. I will always have a soft spot for SVS.biggrin.gif

Yeah it took SVS a long time to start offering the sealed design. Size had/has always been a issue with some/SVS.. and some wanted to see the sealed design as a option. They have a pretty well rounded line now, but I always am curious as to what they will come out with next. PSA has expanded their line very rapidly, more of a rate of change than what I can remember with any other ID Co. Don’t know what Tom and Jim plan, but at the way things are going I wouldn't think we have seen the end. smile.gif no way! Imo PSA is taking on looks, style, customer service> (just as good as SVS), yada all the traits that SVS is concerned with, it’s just going to take time (evolution).. PSA just started offering new finishes but keep coming out with new offerings.

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Yeah it took SVS a long time to start offering the sealed design. Size had/has always been a issue with some/SVS.. and some wanted to see the sealed design as a option. They have a pretty well rounded line now, but I always am curious as to what they will come out with next. PSA has expanded their line very rapidly, more of a rate of change than what I can remember with any other ID Co. Don’t know what Tom and Jim plan, but at the way things are going I wouldn't think we have seen the end. smile.gif no way! Imo PSA is taking on looks, style, customer service (just as good as SVS), yada all the traits that SVS is concerned with, it’s just going to take time (evolution).. PSA just started offering new finishes but keep coming out with new offerings.

Man some of the pictures of the veneer options of the XS30 makes me actually wish I had my subs out for everyone to see so that I'd have an excuse go buy a veneered XS30!
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Man some of the pictures of the veneer options of the XS30 makes me actually wish I had my subs out for everyone to see so that I'd have an excuse go buy a veneered XS30!

You need a excuse? Why I tell you me biggrin.gif That would be nice though.

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Hey jbrown.. Should I go post a pic of my past DIY LLT cylinders over where nuet hangs out? wink.gifbiggrin.gif

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There has to be some natural law being broken here. tongue.gif

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enough to have left me with a **** eating grin on my face. I can't even imagine how it will sound with a TRIAX. Scary thought.

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Yeah it took SVS a long time to start offering the sealed design. Size had/has always been a issue with some/SVS.. and some wanted to see the sealed design as a option. They have a pretty well rounded line now, but I always am curious as to what they will come out with next. PSA has expanded their line very rapidly, more of a rate of change than what I can remember with any other ID Co. Don’t know what Tom and Jim plan, but at the way things are going I wouldn't think we have seen the end. smile.gif no way! Imo PSA is taking on looks, style, customer service> (just as good as SVS), yada all the traits that SVS is concerned with, it’s just going to take time (evolution).. PSA just started offering new finishes but keep coming out with new offerings.

I think its time for svs (ed and team) to come out with something that would compete with the triax. they need to take it to the next level like psa did. I love their cs and products, but if I was to replace my pb13 I wouldn't hesitate one bit in ordering the triax.

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I think its time for svs (ed and team) to come out with something that would compete with the triax. they need to take it to the next level like psa did. I love their cs and products, but if I was to replace my pb13 I wouldn't hesitate one bit in ordering the triax.

I couldn't agree more!.. definitely! If I ever buy another sub and I expect to, the Triax will be at the very top of my list!

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Is audioholics THD numbers important or not? XV has double the THD of the PB12-NSD.

Good question! Distortion is bad of course. But how much distortion does it take for a listener to be aware of it... at 20 Hz? I mean, 20 Hz is somewhere between a sound and a rumble anyway, and below that, it's mostly a tactile feeling. Can you perceive harmonic distortion below 20 Hz? This is a honest question by the way.

Answering to myself... I guess most distortion appear as higher-order harmonics, so that distorted sub-20 Hz waveforms will have audible higher-frequency components I guess?

I thought I heard distortion from my SVS SB12-NSD but it was pretty severe. Turns out it was the grille rattling. Nasty problem plaguing at least a few production runs of the SB12 and PB12-NSD... So I guess I never really noticed any distortion since I switched to ID subs from my crappy 8" Energy sub!
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Not sure what you mean by this.

Well to be totally honest I'm not sure either. I guess I'm thinking about Canadian consumer protection laws. They can't possibly apply when you purchase a good out of the country. Buying cheap HDMI cables from Monoprice is one thing, but a 1k$+ sub is another entirely. Yet thinking about it... I trust PSA's honesty much more than I trust the effectiveness of consumer protection laws.
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Man some of the pictures of the veneer options of the XS30 makes me actually wish I had my subs out for everyone to see so that I'd have an excuse go buy a veneered XS30!

Seriously I thought that PSA were selling Submersives for a moment. Clearly they want in in the premium sub market!
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Hey jbrown.. Should I go post a pic of my past DIY LLT cylinders over where nuet hangs out? wink.gifbiggrin.gif

Please do smile.gif But... would this be that monster by any chance?

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That fact that it only cost $150 to upgrade a XS30's to a premium veneer is also pretty amazing.
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That fact that it only cost $150 to upgrade a XS30's to a premium veneer is also pretty amazing.
even at 200 dollars for the TRIAX is pretty amazing. Initial I had ordered the standard black one but ahblaza when on to tease everybody with his pictures. I said " don't tease me bro!!! ", but the look of that expresso was just too sick to ignore so I ended up adding another couple of days to my delivery date in order to upgrade. at that price, what's 200 more.
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I said " don't tease me bro!!!

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even at 200 dollars for the TRIAX is pretty amazing. Initial I had ordered the standard black one but ahblaza when on to tease everybody with his pictures. I said " don't tease me bro!!! ", but the look of that expresso was just to sick to ignore so I ended up adding another couple of days to my delivery date in order to upgrade. at that price, what's 200 more.

I don't blame you on the switch. So, what is your new ETA?
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I don't blame you on the switch. So, what is your new ETA?
initial I was told shipping would start around the 14 July but the change would add a few more days. that's okay by me because the XV30 is keeping me happier than a cop in a doughnut shop.

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Has anybody plugged the port on a xv sub and ran it sealed?

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Has anybody plugged the port on a xv sub and ran it sealed?
Are you insane? that's like ripping the tag of a mattress. I heard the FBI breaks down your door if you do either one of those. I'm personally not taking that chance.

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Has anybody plugged the port on a xv sub and ran it sealed?

I once tried that with a Ultra a didn't like it as opposed to other sealed options I had ran.

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was just curious since the sealed and vented subs use the same amp and driver ....I like my subs being ported, just was thinking out loud more or less.

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was just curious since the sealed and vented subs use the same amp and driver ....I like my subs being ported, just was thinking out loud more or less.

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I once tried that with a Ultra a didn't like it as opposed to other sealed options I had ran. I stated so on the forum in all honesty and got blasted by XX for doing so . frown.gif
The new SVS Ultra towers come with foam plugs you can use to control the roll off. I personally do not like them plugged.

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Double post basshead! Lol wink.gif
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The new SVS Ultra towers come with foam plugs you can use to control the roll off. I personally do not like them plugged.

My last purchase with SVS was dual PC-13 ULTRA’s. I only kept them for a month or so and went on another DIY tangent. I had a old style Ultra that I really liked, but never tried it in the sealed mode if I remember correctly? I do know that I never did care for the 13s plugged though. 20 and 16Hz tune was good.

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Double post basshead! Lol wink.gif

He does that when he is really adamant about something. wink.gif

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My last purchase with SVS was dual PC-13 ULTRA’s. I only kept them for a month or so and went on another DIY tangent. I had a old style Ultra that I really liked, but never tried it in the sealed mode if I remember correctly? I do know that I never did care for the 13s plugged though. 20 and 16Hz tune was good.

Alright Steve I give in, post some of these DIY pics or PM them to me. I want to see them now! biggrin.gif
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