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I also wonder if he new driver has an inverted dust cap like the previous driver (I like the inverted cap look)? I know when there was a driver change on the XS30 the cap was changed from inverted to traditional convex.

Not that it will particularly matter since I plan to leave the grills on.
Lmao man, thats exactly what i asked Tom, i dont like the outward dust cap, i think it looks cheap, lets hope the Triax is inverted.

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Lmao man, thats exactly what i asked Tom, i dont like the outward dust cap, i think it looks cheap, lets hope the Triax is inverted.

Too funny...I also think the convex cap looks "cheap". biggrin.gif

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When i got the XS-30 i had the ones with the outward dist cap, i was a little ticked off, ohh wrll i dont have her any more.

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Too funny...I also think the convex cap looks "cheap". biggrin.gif

Yeah and I also can’t stand aluminum, black aluminum, black/white paper, Kevlar.. or the copper look a like drivers. Ok-Ok no need to shout, I’m outa here. smile.gif

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XV15 owners anybody experience port noise with deep bass I'm reading in some reviews?
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When i got the XS-30 i had the ones with the outward dist cap, i was a little ticked off, ohh wrll i dont have her any more.

You've had the XS and the XV? How did they compare in your opinion?

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XV15 owners anybody experience port noise with deep bass I'm reading in some reviews?

Never.

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XV15 owners anybody experience port noise with deep bass I'm reading in some reviews?

Are you referring to the review from Audioholics?
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Are you referring to the review from Audioholics?





Yes, just read that and had me little concern because it's on top of my list.



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Never.

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XV15 owners anybody experience port noise with deep bass I'm reading in some reviews?

If you're referring to Josh Ricci's review, read his comments here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467970/honest-discussion-psa-xv15-vs-hsu-vtf-3-mk4/60#post_23205772

Any ported subwoofer will reach its port capabilities at some point, and there will be audible port noise. The XV15 does very well in this respect with its 4" port, and you'll almost never hear port noise except in scenes with strong 14-16hz notes with no masking noises. With my XV15, I have actually not been able to hear port noise with the Pulse scene, even with the MV as high as -3dB. In dozens of movies that I have watched with the XV15, I have only heard port noise with one scene, which is the grenade scene in World War Z. This had a very strong sweep from 50hz down to about 14hz, and port noise was audible at the end of the sweep.

Except for those rare scenes, you should not hear port noise from this sub, even at very high volume levels.
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Good to hear.

Keep in mind that Josh's tests push any subs to the max and in real world use it won't be an issue unless you plan on playing 10hz test sign waves thru a XV15 for a couples minutes straight.
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If you're referring to Josh Ricci's review, read his comments here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467970/honest-discussion-psa-xv15-vs-hsu-vtf-3-mk4/60#post_23205772

Any ported subwoofer will reach its port capabilities at some point, and there will be audible port noise. The XV15 does very well in this respect with its 4" port, and you'll almost never hear port noise except in scenes with strong 14-16hz notes with no masking noises. With my XV15, I have actually not been able to hear port noise with the Pulse scene, even with the MV as high as -3dB. In dozens of movies that I have watched with the XV15, I have only heard port noise with one scene, which is the grenade scene in World War Z. This had a very strong sweep from 50hz down to about 14hz, and port noise was audible at the end of the sweep.

Except for those rare scenes, you should not hear port noise from this sub, even at very high volume levels.

How did you hear it in this scene, the movie is not out for 2 weeks?

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How did you hear it in this scene, the movie is not out for 2 weeks?

It wasn't the commercial Blu-ray obviously, but I did watch it with the DTS-HD MA track, so it will sound exactly the same on the Blu-ray. There's more discussion and graphs of this scene in the "Master List of Bass" thread.
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You've had the XS and the XV? How did they compare in your opinion?
Well in the spot were i had the XS, i put the XV there when i got it, and it seemed like the XS did better there, i played the slow motion flip in the original Transformers, and the XS sounded better with that scene, but i couldnt play to loud or the XS would distort, thats the main reason i took it back, the XV held up better every movie i threw at it, bot sounded great.

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It wasn't the commercial Blu-ray obviously, but I did watch it with the DTS-HD MA track, so it will sound exactly the same on the Blu-ray. There's more discussion and graphs of this scene in the "Master List of Bass" thread.
I cant wait to try this scene when and if i get my Triax.

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I cant wait to try this scene when and if i get my Triax.

I still think you should try out the Triax in your little computer room just for sh!ts and giggles! tongue.gif
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It would be sweet, but the Triax will be way to heavy to bring up there.

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Hey just wanted to give a little update. I spoke with Tom off and on via emails today. I was asking him about the new improved Triax driver. He said its slightly more efficient and measured a .5-.9db gain in the mid bass region. Just thought you guys might like to know. smile.gif

Nothing like more performance with no extra cost...of course its not a huge gain but its something.
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I was thinking it would be under a DB of gain, but yea it is something, i just really hope the driver uses the inverted dust cap.....

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I was thinking it would be under a DB of gain, but yea it is something, i just really hope the driver uses the inverted dust cap.....

Why does the inverted dust cap matter?
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I personally dont like the outward ones, makes the drivers look cheap, that is my opinion though. smile.gif

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Why does the inverted dust cap matter?

Just a matter of aesthetics. Many like the look of the inverted dust caps better than the traditional ones. Myself included. It wouldn't change my decision to purchase or not, but given a choice, I'd choose the inverted dust cap just because I like the way it looks.

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Me too

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Yea I agree inverted looks better.
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Well in the spot were i had the XS, i put the XV there when i got it, and it seemed like the XS did better there, i played the slow motion flip in the original Transformers, and the XS sounded better with that scene, but i couldnt play to loud or the XS would distort, thats the main reason i took it back, the XV held up better every movie i threw at it, bot sounded great.

So the XV 30 held up better than the XS 30, yet you still had output issues with the XVs?

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So the XV 30 held up better than the XS 30, yet you still had output issues with the XVs?
Yes, with 2 XVs i did, with one it was better, but if im just getting one i might as well get the best i cam afford.

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Yes, with 2 XVs i did, with one it was better, but if im just getting one i might as well get the best i cam afford.

Odd......

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Hey just wanted to give a little update. I spoke with Tom off and on via emails today. I was asking him about the new improved Triax driver. He said its slightly more efficient and measured a .5-.9db gain in the mid bass region. Just thought you guys might like to know. smile.gif

Nothing like more performance with no extra cost...of course its not a huge gain but its something.

Tom also mentioned to me that the new driver has a little smoother native response and that the improvements are subtle. But hey, I'll take any improvements we can get. wink.gif

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Just a matter of aesthetics. Many like the look of the inverted dust caps better than the traditional ones. Myself included. It wouldn't change my decision to purchase or not, but given a choice, I'd choose the inverted dust cap just because I like the way it looks.

Same here. smile.gif

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