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Yeah I was talking to Tom for about 2 weeks now and going back and forth between getting dual XS15s or XV15s or going with a single JTR Captivator S1. And then he said check out the wesite there's something I'd probably really like. So for less then the price of 1 Captivator S1 I can have dual XS30s. I think that should be plenty for my 2100cubic/ft theater room!! biggrin.gif
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Great... I thought I was sure about ordering the XV15. Now with the XS30 out I'm back at square 1. Tom I'll probably calling you sometime this week to help me figure this out.
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With the drivers horizontally opposed, I wonder what the ideal placement would be? One facing the listening area and the other to the wall? I wonder how far it should be from the wall?

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Check out the new XS30s that I'm about too order!! I'm going with dual XS30s. I can't wait!
http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/power-x/products/xs30

Me too!!!biggrin.gif Tom and I have been chatting for a couple of weeks and I was all set to order dual xv15s and just see how close to my goal they got me. Tom was like "hold off a couple of days, I have something that might just be perfect for you". I am hopeful that I will get some low end reinforcement, although my room might be a touch difficult. Best we can figure is that a pair in my room, each in its relative front corner should provide low to mid teens output all the way down to 15hz or so. It also sounds like there will be some output, albeit limited, below 10hz or damn close to it. Hope to see these things before the week is out!

Good luck with yours, keep us posted!
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Great... I thought I was sure about ordering the XV15. Now with the XS30 out I'm back at square 1. Tom I'll probably calling you sometime this week to help me figure this out.
After looking at the Specifications on this bad boy, As long as you have the room for it. Buy it.... you will never be saying, I want more rumble out of my home theater. biggrin.gif

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An Empire on steroids? I didn't see that coming. Tom's been holding out on us! You might just be the first kid on the block with one of those.

ha thats exactly what i thought when i looked at it, looks amazing
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That XS30 looks like a beast!! Wonder how it would it sound with a XV15??

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Me too!!!biggrin.gif Tom and I have been chatting for a couple of weeks and I was all set to order dual xv15s and just see how close to my goal they got me. Tom was like "hold off a couple of days, I have something that might just be perfect for you". I am hopeful that I will get some low end reinforcement, although my room might be a touch difficult. Best we can figure is that a pair in my room, each in its relative front corner should provide low to mid teens output all the way down to 15hz or so. It also sounds like there will be some output, albet limited, below 10hz or damn close to it. Hope to see these things before the week is out!
Good luck with yours, keep us posted!

Tom thinks with my room layout and size that dual XS30s could offer extension down to 7-11hz range!!..lol I can't wait!!
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Tom....how well do you think the XS30 will perform in an open style family room with 8' ceiling? I am currently using an 18" ported Epik Phoenix and have no problem getting as low as 14hz in my room.

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Tom thinks with my room layout and size that dual XS30s could offer extension down to 7-11hz range!!..lol I can't wait!!

Sweet!! Yeah, I can't wait for these things to ship out. It will be interesting to see the in room output in different cases. I joked with Tom about them looking like empires on steroids too. In would seem that an XS30 would outperform an empire by a fair margin, but only time will tell. I wonder how they will compare to something like the standard submersive...probably down a few db in any given frequency, but if it can get close then two XS30s for the price of a subm would be a no-brainer. In my case, the demensions are close, but the subm is just a touch taller and makes it less than a perfect fit for me. I think I will be really happy with the 30s
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An Empire on steroids? I didn't see that coming. Tom's been holding out on us! You might just be the first kid on the block with one of those.

Empire on steroids or the Submersive's little bro? I've been exchanging emails with Tom regarding this model over the last couple of weeks. Can't wait to hear one! A heck of a buy for it's current price for sure. biggrin.gif
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Question is, will it have what is in effect a 20Hz hpf like the Empire does? If not, it will be more lil Subm than big Emp.
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Personally, I have dual XV-15's in and 1800 cu ft. room. 15hz at 115db (measured) is pretty good.

I also have dual (I like sealed subs, and also have dual Epik Legends, 2 12" sealed woofers with only
a 300W amp). They kick butt in the mid bass area, and go down to 19hz in a stereo only
listening room I have.

I can't imagine what dual 15" XS-30's would be like. I would of got those but they were not out yet when I ordered the XV-15's. Tom felt that dual XV-15's would be best given the size of my
room, and what I wanted to achieve.

But XS-30's really look like an Empire on steroids....at an unbeatable price. Dual opposed
15" woofers, 750w Bash amp, weighing in at 111 lbs. Whats not to like? Being sealed they will sound tight. My little old Legends, with just 2 12" driver with a puny 300w amp are great. Especially with mid bass slam.

Dual opposed 15" woofers is a great design, and the XS-30 will hit 9hz to 14hz in a typical
listening room ?.....that's more than nice. biggrin.gif

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Question is, will it have what is in effect a 20Hz hpf like the Empire does? If not, it will be more lil Subm than big Emp.

No. With the DSP we've shaped the frequency response to extend well into the deep teens in very large rooms and very likely single digits in more common room sizes. We never really thought of the XS30 in relation to perceived competition. During engineering it was simply though of as a more potent XS15 delivering deeper extension and significantly more output from an enclosure only moderately larger. The overall "sound" quality is very similar though. Both have extremely low group delay and "ringing"(stored energy) signatures. And both also have very clean waterfall plots.

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Well I did it, just took a leap of faith on Tom's recommendation and ordered dual XS30s!!!! I can't wait! biggrin.gif
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Well I did it, just took a leap of faith on Tom's recommendation and ordered dual XS30s!!!! I can't wait! biggrin.gif
I already took one leap of faith with Power Sound, so am sending in my XV-15 for the XS-30. That's two leaps of faith within 30 days and so far, it's been an incredible experience all around with PSA. I know the XS-30 will not disappoint!
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I already took one leap of faith with Power Sound, so am sending in my XV-15 for the XS-30. That's two leaps of faith within 30 days and so far, it's been an incredible experience all around with PSA. I know the XS-30 will not disappoint!

Is there some sort of trade in or upgrade promo? I have a xv15 also and I'm interested in the xs30.
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Is there some sort of trade in or upgrade promo? I have a xv15 also and I'm interested in the xs30.

I was just within my 30 day trial period.
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That's good that you can trade them (XV-15' for XS-30') but how about the shipping
costs returning the XV-15('s)? I think it might be expensive. Just wondering. confused.gif

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Just placed the order!! Two XS30s on the way to CT:D
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Welcome to the club Chopshop!!! biggrin.gif
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That's good that you can trade them (XV-15' for XS-30') but how about the shipping
costs returning the XV-15('s)? I think it might be expensive. Just wondering. confused.gif
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I believe I am on the hook for the return. Not sure yet what the price will be.
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I believe I am on the hook for the return. Not sure yet what the price will be.

I figured a return for the XV15 from PA to Ohio about an hour and a half drive away, with FedEx in the neighborhood of $135, less than 70 miles away. It's $58-60 for over size and weight package alone +shipping and handling.
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Sadly, it will be a couple of weeks before these arrive:( On the other hand, I have such a bad head cold right now that I could never do any listening to the extent I would need to in order to formulat my opinion. I have my new 4520 AVR and my surround setup all waiting...last night I sat and looked at it all like a sad kid. If I tried to listen, it would just frustrate me, as I wouldn't sound right. Anyway, I got an order confirmation as soon as I hung up the phone with Tom and can't wait to get them. I was thinking of tryng to get my hands on a submersive to pit them against for testing purposes. A friend of mine has an Empire and if I could put all three in one room, I think it would be fun to asess them in an inforaml little shootout.
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Well I did it, just took a leap of faith on Tom's recommendation and ordered dual XS30s!!!! I can't wait! biggrin.gif
I already took one leap of faith with Power Sound, so am sending in my XV-15 for the XS-30. That's two leaps of faith within 30 days and so far, it's been an incredible experience all around with PSA. I know the XS-30 will not disappoint!

I'm curious why you are trading in the XV15 for the XS30 and not the XV30 or just adding a second XV15? Are you partial to sealed designs? Were you just not happy with the XV15?

(BTW: I just ordered two XV15s and they shipped out today!)
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I figured a return for the XV15 from PA to Ohio about an hour and a half drive away, with FedEx in the neighborhood of $135, less than 70 miles away. It's $58-60 for over size and weight package alone +shipping and handling.

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I'm curious why you are trading in the XV15 for the XS30 and not the XV30 or just adding a second XV15? Are you partial to sealed designs? Were you just not happy with the XV15?
(BTW: I just ordered two XV15s and they shipped out today!)

No, I loved the XV-15, but the XV-30 is just way too big for my living room, and two XV-15's won't work either for the same reason along with WAF issues. I am not particular to either port or sealed. I like the idea of more output in the mid range on the XS-30 as well as the lower extension. You will be more than happy with the dual XV-15s!
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Originally I was going to go with dual XS15s because I was trying to keep the height of my subs under 24". But then I realized I could actually deal with about 25"s so then I was going to get dual XV15s. Tom said that output wise 3 XS15s would roughly equal 2 XV15s. And 3 XV15s will (almost) equal 2 XS30s, and that was all I needed to hear! I was sold biggrin.gif
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Originally I was going to go with dual XS15s because I was trying to keep the height of my subs under 24". But then I realized I could actually deal with about 25"s so then I was going to get dual XV15s. Tom said that output wise 3 XS15s would roughly equal 2 XV15s. And 3 XV15s will (almost) equal 2 XS30s, and that was all I needed to hear! I was sold biggrin.gif

I hear you my man, I was going to send the XV15 back and get dual XS30s, but after talking with Tom and hearing your comparison here, I know I made the right choice, the second XV15 is on the way, and the money saved may allow for the third XV15 soon...and then the fourth wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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I'm curious why you are trading in the XV15 for the XS30 and not the XV30 or just adding a second XV15? Are you partial to sealed designs? Were you just not happy with the XV15?
(BTW: I just ordered two XV15s and they shipped out today!)

Congrats my friend, enjoy:)
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I hear you my man, I was going to send the XV15 back and get dual XS30s, but after talking with Tom and hearing your comparison here, I know I made the right choice, the second XV15 is on the way, and the money saved may allow for the third XV15 soon...and then the fourth wink.gifbiggrin.gif

Nice! Enjoy them...four seems nuts, in a good way:D
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