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Auh, but here is the clincher. It takes 18”s powered accordingly to keep up in simple! To surpass, more power than what many use. That's all I'm sayin smile.gif

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Brian graphs look good, but yes you have to run the sweep at 80db or more to get past the noise floor, you will know when you hit the right spl.

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I decided it was time to upgrade my audio gear. I have a question about my new sub.

My Old Gear:
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After running my AVR calibration, it set my sub to -3. I currently have the subs gain knob set at the 2 o'clock position. Using a DTS demo bluray disc I played some clips and found turning the AVR sub gain up to +6, of course resulted in more bass that I was pleased with vs the -3 the AVR auto set the sub to.

Am I causing the boomy bass now that people don't like, and I really need another sub to get more bass due to my large open house floor plan? I highly doubt I'm harming the sub as it feels like a tank, of course I could be wrong. My AVR crossover is set to 80, mains set to small. I have the sub crossover knob set to LFE (max clockwise). We enjoy watching our movies at volume -15. Thx.









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^ What I recommend doing is turning the sub amp to 3:00 and backing the AVR gain down to 0. Other then that the setup looks good smile.gif
Next step would be to purchase a umm-6 mic and download REW to measure your room response. Peaks in the FR can cause a boomy response.
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Tom told me the drivers might make it to them last Fri, i hope they did, so i expect them to ship this coming week.


Man I can't wait! That will be awesome if we get them this week! smile.gif

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Me neither BRO, i need BASS (forgot what it sounded like) LOL, but yes i believe they should FINALLY ship this week.

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^Why did you ship your XV30 back so soon? I would of waited until the Triax ship date was confirmed...but maybe that makes too much sense lol. tongue.gif
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Because they WERE supposed to ship like 2 weeks after i returned them, PLUS i had help.

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do you have i time machine so i can go back and not return them so soon?

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Not sure what Tom told you but he emailed me a few weeks back asking me to ship back my XV30F. He never stated at that time that there were any current guarantees on when the Triax would ship, he just had an estimate which I was fine with.

I know quite a few people have been waiting longer than me but at least Tom has been upfront and transparent about the whole issue with the first set of drivers. Most companies nowadays would have never explained in detail and would just keep saying "soon".
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i talked to him over a month ago, he said the drivers should be there by the end of the month, that was the end of August.

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Cancel your order then so I can get my Triax that much earlier then biggrin.gif

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Ok only if you want.

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I got so many good blueray movies waiting, I'm ready for this Triax! Not sure if the house is ready though eek.gif

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Just watched world war z. There is one sequence that is just awesome. Tour going to like it

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I got so many good blueray movies waiting, I'm ready for this Triax! Not sure if the house is ready though eek.gif
Were in the same boat.

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Just watched world war z. There is one sequence that is just awesome. Tour going to like it
YES im waiting to watch that scene badly.

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Movie I want to watch badly review blu-rays are available - Pacific Rim /drool

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Me to, should come out soon.

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Just watched world war z. There is one sequence that is just awesome. Tour going to like it

Man world war Z was crazy! Can't wait to watch it again with the Triax. Star Trek was amazing, awesome visuals and the sound track was out of this world. I was going to watch Pacific Rim last night but decided to wait for the Triax first. Next up on the list will be fast and furious 6, man of steel, hangover III, despicable me 2, RIPD, the conjuring, insidious 2, Thor 2, and the Riddick. Well I'm going to have plenty to watch with the Triax not to mention the xbox one, I've got 22 games preordered but I already know that ill prob end up only having time to play a few eek.gif

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The grenade explosion in World War Z is cool! But I just thought the story is weak, thats just me.

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The grenade explosion in World War Z is cool! But I just thought the story is weak, thats just me.

Just watched (again) Unstoppable, awesome train bass wooo! wink.gif

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well it IS about Zombies...haha...its a check your brain kind of movie...good movies with good bass are hard to come by wink.gif

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Offcourse the story line wasnt all that but man there are so many chaotic scenes and when the zombies break out they turn into tidal waves coming down city streets, its crazy!!!!

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well it IS about Zombies...haha...its a check your brain kind of movie...good movies with good bass are hard to come by wink.gif

Two hours of mindless entertainment. Now that's what I'm talking about. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

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First shipment of preordered triaxs should ship out by this friday if everything goes through on time, yeahhhhhhh!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif

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That doesnt seem to happen in our case.

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Maybe this time were in luck, i plan on knocking the paint off my walls by next wednesday. If they ship well get the notices by the end of this week smile.gif

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Good timing so far, just got my UMIK-1 in this morning, should have the first Triax sometime next week and have Pacific Rim Bluray on preorder from Amazon and should be here on the 15th.

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Good timing so far, just got my UMIK-1 in this morning, should have the first Triax sometime next week and have Pacific Rim Bluray on preorder from Amazon and should be here on the 15th.

I was thinking the same thing, ima play pacific rim first with the triax!!

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