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It is my understanding that they will not be ready tonight.

I wast he first to order I believe.

If they were ready tonight I would be there as I am just an hour away.

I think the drivers are supposed to arrive early tomorrow morning and they will be ready to ship/pick up Monday.

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Im in the first batch so i hope i get mine by next week!!!! smile.gif
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Im going to stack my 200lb trinity ontop the Triax in my right front corner and make a Trizilla!!! Then im watching pacific rim and posting a youtube video!! biggrin.gif

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It is my understanding that they will not be ready tonight.

I wast he first to order I believe.

If they were ready tonight I would be there as I am just an hour away.

I think the drivers are supposed to arrive early tomorrow morning and they will be ready to ship/pick up Monday.

They still don't have the drivers yet???

Reefdvr's post sounded like his are ready for shipment.

Definitely some mixed messages here.......

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I hope they do, or else they must have shipped through the Pony Express.

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Im going to stack my 200lb trinity ontop the Triax in my right front corner and make a Trizilla!!! Then im watching pacific rim and posting a youtube video!! biggrin.gif
I would LOVE to see that, i will make a video to, but dont know if it will bean unboxing.

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I hope they do, or else they must have shipped through the Pony Express.

FIgure if the first shipment is for 150-175 drivers at nearly 50 lbs a piece you are talking about over 4 tons of drivers. This are not going to arrive via fedex, but probably some shipping company that is not as quick.

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They still don't have the drivers yet???

Reefdvr's post sounded like his are ready for shipment.

Definitely some mixed messages here.......
I actually never said when. I said I have good news and then said subs are shipping.
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I actually never said when. I said I have good news and then said subs are shipping.
Tom told me in an email concerning the Triax "We will start shipping tomorrow or Friday at the latest", and then this about the future runs... " The second production run should occur in about 10-12 days. The third will be about 2 weeks after that. Right now you are right on the edge between the second or third. I won't know for sure until we get most of the way through the second production run exactly how many orders will include in that run."

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I would LOVE to see that, i will make a video to, but dont know if it will bean unboxing.

Im going to take a driver out of the trinity and triax and take pics of them beside eachother for reference and then ill shoot a video of the entire setup. At the end im going to show some clips of music or movies and probably show how the house reacts to some frequency sweeps. I cant wait it should be fun, just not fun moving 200lb subwoofers around eek.gif

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So i wonder when the first batch will ship out? Maybe by monday or tuesday? smile.gif

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So i wonder when the first batch will ship out? Maybe by monday or tuesday? smile.gif

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So i wonder when the first batch will ship out? Maybe by monday or tuesday? smile.gif

Tom told me most likely I can pick mine up on Monday or Tuesdaysoni would expect them to ship that same day.

The drivers will arrive tomorrow morning. They are not just going to slap them in and ship, they will test them and make sure everything is A-Ok before shipping. The last thing they would want is to ship product that have issues.

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Tom told me in an email concerning the Triax "We will start shipping tomorrow or Friday at the latest", and then this about the future runs... " The second production run should occur in about 10-12 days. The third will be about 2 weeks after that. Right now you are right on the edge between the second or third. I won't know for sure until we get most of the way through the second production run exactly how many orders will include in that run."[/quote did he say if they got the drivers ib?

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Tom told me in an email concerning the Triax "We will start shipping tomorrow or Friday at the latest", and then this about the future runs... " The second production run should occur in about 10-12 days. The third will be about 2 weeks after that. Right now you are right on the edge between the second or third. I won't know for sure until we get most of the way through the second production run exactly how many orders will include in that run."
So that should mean they got the drivers in,.

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So that should mean they got the drivers in,.
I do and have not posted anything that Tom has sent me about the Triax's. However, Raynist already posted some info so I will add to it. The Drivers are close and the way I read it, the drivers may be in tonight or most likely tomorrow. The skinny is, the first round of the Triax's should begin to ship tomorrow. From what Tom has said before, the subs are ready to roll, they just need to install the drivers and test and box em up. Should go pretty quick.
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Ok so I guess I can plan to have it by next week, I'll hold off on pacific rim until I get the Triax. Man I can't wait, the suspense is killing me! eek.gif

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Ok so I guess I can plan to have it by next week, I'll hold off on pacific rim until I get the Triax. Man I can't wait, the suspense is killing me! eek.gif
Lickly im buying from PSA and getting a better product then i originally ordered, if it wasnt for that i would get i different sub and that would be???????

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Im going to stack my 200lb trinity ontop the Triax in my right front corner and make a Trizilla!!! Then im watching pacific rim and posting a youtube video!! biggrin.gif

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

I can think of several reasons NOT to do this:

1. Inability to gain-match co-located, but non-identical, subs

2. Differing transient responses of sealed vs. vented/PR subs, (co-locating the subs exacerbates this issue.)

3. Headroom issues of the "lesser" sub limiting the "greater" sub.

Bottom line... I can't imagine the output or LF extension of the Trinity sub would come close to being able to keep up with the Triax. The Trinity would only hold the Triax back from its' performance potential. Worse yet, the "out of phase" nature of the response of the PR's in the Trinity would have a cancelling effect on the deepest bass output of the Triax's..

Bottom line, the Triax would likely perform *better* by itself than with a co-located Def Tech Trinity.

OTOH, a single, non-co-located Trinity could certainly be setup to augment and enhance the output of a single Triax. However, that would take some skill and the ability to measure and correct the in-room response of te two systems.
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I can think of several reasons NOT to do this:

1. Inability to gain-match co-located, but non-identical, subs

2. Differing transient responses of sealed vs. vented/PR subs, (co-locating the subs exacerbates this issue.)

3. Headroom issues of the "lesser" sub limiting the "greater" sub.

Bottom line... I can't imagine the output or LF extension of the Trinity sub would come close to being able to keep up with the Triax. The Trinity would only hold the Triax back from its' performance potential. Worse yet, the "out of phase" nature of the response of the PR's in the Trinity would have a cancelling effect on the deepest bass output of the Triax's..

Bottom line, the Triax would likely perform *better* by itself than with a co-located Def Tech Trinity.

OTOH, a single, non-co-located Trinity could certainly be setup to augment and enhance the output of a single Triax. However, that would take some skill and the ability to measure and correct the in-room response of te two systems.

He should sell it and order a second Triax.... win win smile.gif

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I can think of several reasons NOT to do this:

1. Inability to gain-match co-located, but non-identical, subs

2. Differing transient responses of sealed vs. vented/PR subs, (co-locating the subs exacerbates this issue.)

3. Headroom issues of the "lesser" sub limiting the "greater" sub.

Bottom line... I can't imagine the output or LF extension of the Trinity sub would come close to being able to keep up with the Triax. The Trinity would only hold the Triax back from its' performance potential. Worse yet, the "out of phase" nature of the response of the PR's in the Trinity would have a cancelling effect on the deepest bass output of the Triax's..

Bottom line, the Triax would likely perform *better* by itself than with a co-located Def Tech Trinity.

OTOH, a single, non-co-located Trinity could certainly be setup to augment and enhance the output of a single Triax. However, that would take some skill and the ability to measure and correct the in-room response of te two systems.

I thought both the subs that I will have are sealed? Man this is complicated for me, I want to have both somehow until I do get another Triax. I don't want to take from the Triax and I don't want them to cancel out any waves, and i don't know how to measure. There's gotta be a way? What about the idea of putting the Triax in the sweet spot to let it take control of the room and putting the trinity behind my seats, could that work for now?

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Yes they both are sealed however that Trinity is going to run out of steam well before the Triax...so if you calibrate them equally then the Triax will be limited to the output of the Trinity. However if your Trinity has a limiter then it may work as the Trinity will quit getting louder and the Triax will keep ramping up. Best thing to do is just try it both ways and see what works best.

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Yes they both are sealed however that Trinity is going to run out of steam well before the Triax...so if you calibrate them equally then the Triax will be limited to the output of the Trinity. However if your Trinity has a limiter then it may work as the Trinity will quit getting louder and the Triax will keep ramping up. Best thing to do is just try it both ways and see what works best.

The Trinity, is not sealed its a passive radiator design. Passive Radiators work like ports. They resonate at a certain frequencies. Honestly thought all kidding aside he might not need anymore than one Triax.

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The Trinity, is not sealed its a passive radiator design. Passive Radiators work like ports. They resonate at a certain frequencies. Honestly thought all kidding aside he might not need anymore than one Triax.

I know how passive radiators work...my mistake for not being up to speed on deftech subs.

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When you say if I calibrate both subs equally then are you talking about level matching? I'm a little confused on something, I know that proper placement and room measuring is how you can fill in nulls and correct wave cancelations and also to find the best locations for more output or bass smoothing. I know that because my seating area is condensed I'm more interested in more output verse bass smoothing. In my sweet spot the trinity does great pressurizing the room and there doesn't seem to be much of a problem with bass smoothing at my seating area, but it does lack power in the lower ranges. If I place the Triax in the front right corner which put out the maximum output in my room then in will have full reign. Now I'm thinking if I put the trinity behind the seats in the center then it should be out of the way of the Triax and may just help with bass smoothing and chair pounding effects and not be in control of the theater/viewing side where the Triax will be in control and keep pressurised.
This is where I'm confused, if one sub is weaker then how is the stronger sub going to be just as weak? Let's say the trinity can't keep up with an explosion on a movie, wouldn't the Triax still be going like usual? I mean if I crank the volume won't they both reach there max outputs eventually regardless of differences in potential? Sorry if this is a stupid question, it's just I want to understand dual sub placement better, I know they should match I just don't understand fully why.

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I'm just thinking if one sub is more powerful, then it can go to the front side sweet spot and take control, the lesser of the 2 could be put behind the seats where it's closer, doesn't have to be as strong due to near placement, and out of the way. Maybe this doesn't make sense at all eek.gif

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With both the Trinity and Triax calibrated at 75db or level matched, The Trinity and Triax will be equally loud until the Trinity runs out of steam. The Triax will not be magically louder unless you calibrate it hotter then the Trinity. More sub equals more headroom, however your system will only be as loud as the weakest link. When I say that I mean clean undistorted bass...Basically in a nutt shell you will need to set the Trinity 10db or so lower then the Triax so the full potential of the Triax can be reached.

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With both the Trinity and Triax calibrated at 75db or level matched, The Trinity and Triax will be equally loud until the Trinity runs out of steam. The Triax will not be magically louder unless you calibrate it hotter then the Trinity. More sub equals more headroom, however your system will only be as loud as the weakest link. When I say that I mean clean undistorted bass...Basically in a nutt shell you will need to set the Trinity 10db or so lower then the Triax so the full potential of the Triax can be reached.


Now I understand! smile.gif Ok so I can let the aud eq run its dual sub calibration, then change the db level of the trinity manually to offset it to where it's not being pushed as much. Here's a question, so if I did that then the Triax will off course sound much more powerful all the time and the trinity won't be over worked. Ok now when I watch movies I have the volume above reference so wouldn't that mean I already have had the trinity maxed? It doesn't distort or clip so I'm assuming i probably usually have it close to being maxed out at a regular basis. If you have both subs set at zero gain, at what point on the volume do they reach there max before there is no longer a difference in output or gain?

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