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Brian, what's the word on your XS30? You happy with the purchase? Any updates? I just got mine out of storage today after being 60 days without a sub. Can't wait to hook it back up to see how it does in the new house but placement will be limited and/or awkward.
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What am I missing? I thought it was under 1K according to you?

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I purchased my most recent SVS subwoofer with his help and the savings were significant!
Thanks! I didn't realize he was a salesman too. I have only utilized his help in the Denon thread about 100 times! wink.gif
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Thanks! I didn't realize he was a salesman too. I have only utilized his help in the Denon thread about 100 times! wink.gif

My pleasure. JD was very helpful, honest and never pushed me to force the sale. The sub that I wanted was out of stock and he coordinated everything to ensure one was reserved for me as soon they were available. Did I mention the price was incredible good? wink.gif

Glad to hear you already know him, so you no need to tell you he is a really cool guy!

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Well my sub has sold....gonna miss it because it was a terrific sub....just waiting on some details for shipping to Canada and I'll likely be ordering my sub next week...fingers crossed. smile.gif


Hey Matt...if you're reading this you'll love your new sub....wink.gif

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Does PSA have a trade up policy? I don't remember. And would it be worth it for me to go from a xv15 to a xs30?
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Does PSA have a trade up policy? I don't remember. And would it be worth it for me to go from a xv15 to a xs30?
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I can't recall the trade up policy, but pm if you'd like a nice and easy sale of your XV15.

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Does PSA have a trade up policy? I don't remember. And would it be worth it for me to go from a xv15 to a xs30?
Having just made that switch, yes it was a. Very big difference. I really really like the sound of sealed. And the extension. Oh my the extension. But they do not offer an upgrade policy. Just a return customer discount. Contact Tom

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Jokes aside, have you played with sub's phase/Xover to evaluate impact on FR?
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Jokes aside, have you played with sub's phase/Xover to evaluate impact on FR?
Yeah. Didnt effect it actually. I DID tweak the distance/delay in minidsp to help it out greatly.

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can you lay the XV15 response oer the top of the XS30? I am curious to see the direct comparison.
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can you lay the XV15 response oer the top of the XS30? I am curious to see the direct comparison.

If not, send the 30 over here and I’ll lay on top of it and see if that’ll work for the basser.. smile.gif

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I'd have tons of recommendations in different styles for music with good bass, but perhaps surprisingly, it seems that there is very little metal with good bass in it. Except maybe for the kick drums. There seems to be very few exceptions... for example, the bass guitar in Korn is quite prominent, but it's more the exception than the rule. Anybody knows of metal tracks with good bass? I like shrieking guitars as much as any one else but sometimes I feel like gut-churning bass without having to listen to yet another dubstep track.
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Having just made that switch, yes it was a. Very big difference. I really really like the sound of sealed. And the extension.
I agree, I am in love with sealed subs! I have had ported subs for years and the Triax's being my first sealed, I think I am staying with them.
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I agree, I am in love with sealed subs! I have had ported subs for years and the Triax's being my first sealed, I think I am staying with them.

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ok early nap for the kiddo means cal time:

here is audyssey vs no audyssey XT32....MUCH flatter and doesnt mess with the response...+/-3 down to 10hz...both unsmoothed



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Here it is on youtube... It definitely has bass!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxsS1ijpKHc
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I mentioned this in the Triax thread;

If anyone has this CD, I suggest you play "Piano Smasher" and crank it up.



Thanks sat and ellisr! not my cup of tea though biggrin.gifcool.gif

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Having just made that switch, yes it was a. Very big difference. I really really like the sound of sealed. And the extension. Oh my the extension. But they do not offer an upgrade policy. Just a return customer discount. Contact Tom
So it does good with movies? Everybody always says ported is the way to go for movie watching and sealed subs are better for music. So is this what you've observed? That's the reason I went with the xv15 vs the XS15.
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So it does good with movies? Everybody always says ported is the way to go for movie watching and sealed subs are better for music. So is this what you've observed? That's the reason I went with the xv15 vs the XS15.

What you are reading has been incorrect. Ported is better for rooms that offer little room gain, Sealed is better for smallish sealed rooms that net good room gain to lift the low end. Both can work equally well for music or movies. The key is getting a nice response.
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What you are reading has been incorrect. Ported is better for rooms that offer little room gain, Sealed is better for smallish sealed rooms that net good room gain to lift the low end. Both can work equally well for music or movies. The key is getting a nice response.

Not disagreeing with your above. Happen to find this today on the Rythmik website:

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"What is the difference between a subwoofer designed for music or home theater?

Conventional thinking puts it this way – accuracy for music, maximum SPL at 20 Hz for home theatre. The problem with this is that movies contain music, and often contain bass from familiar sounds, so we know what we are hearing isn't accurate.

We think differently. Both music and high end home theater demand accuracy. The primary difference between a subwoofer optimized for each relates not to accuracy but the nature of what is being reproduced. With home theatre, relatively high SPL capability at 20 Hz is important. Due to the masking effect, deeper bass will often not be noticeable, unless at very high in amplitude as a special effect. Of course, there is music with high amplitude bass that will mask very low bass. Some movies will also benefit from bass below 20 Hz.

Our recommendation for a subwoofer for music are our sealed Direct Servo subwoofers. If your interest is also home theater as well, one or a number of our sealed subwoofers will still be an ideal choice. If you are a home theater enthusiast on a modest budget and don’t listen much to music, you might consider one of our vented subwoofers. We provide advice on choosing a suitable subwoofer in our product selection guide.

More is covered on this page found at Rythmik's site.

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Thanks for straightening that out fir me. I do have a fairly large room that opens up into two other rooms, so it's a good bit of area. That's why I wasn't sure if a sealed sub could work out, with out having to buy a triax!
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As basshead81 is pointing out, sealed have their advantage but you're basically up against the inefficiency of the sealed subwoofer design in large or larger open spaces and then there's the whole intrinsic side: budget, aesthetics, WAF, placement issues, et cetera.
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So maybe in my situation getting a sealed sub even though it's larger and more powerful than the XV15 MIGHT not be a good idea after all?
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As basshead81 is pointing out, sealed have their advantage but you're basically up against the inefficiency of the sealed subwoofer design in large or larger open spaces and then there's the whole intrinsic side: budget, aesthetics, WAF, placement issues, et cetera.

That's where the Triax(s) come in!

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