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Merry X-mas to all PSA owners! I have a ?. I have an 8'x12' rug in my HT room but the sub sits on the oak hard wood floor,? I'm throwing a couch away and was wondering if I cut the foam in the cushion to sit under the sub would it help vibration? The foam is 5" thick or should I just spring for a subdued? Thanks.
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Merry X-mas to all PSA owners! I have a ?. I have an 8'x12' rug in my HT room but the sub sits on the oak hard wood floor,? I'm throwing a couch away and was wondering if I cut the foam in the cushion to sit under the sub would it help vibration? The foam is 5" thick or should I just spring for a subdued? Thanks.

I would strongly recommend you to go ahead and recycle the foam (assuming foam thickness and density are Ok for this job). This way you will be able to confirm if decoupling the sub from the floor will yield better results (vibration reductions) at your room. It is free, it will require just few minutes of your time and then you will have first hand experience if you decide to keep the foam or buy an Auralex / subdude later.

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Merry X-mas to all PSA owners! I have a ?. I have an 8'x12' rug in my HT room but the sub sits on the oak hard wood floor,? I'm throwing a couch away and was wondering if I cut the foam in the cushion to sit under the sub would it help vibration? The foam is 5" thick or should I just spring for a subdued? Thanks.

why dont you try the packing foam that came with your sub?
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Congrats. I thought you were going to the darkside? (DIY)

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It would cost me the same to buy a PSA than getting a DIY.

he-he lol.. There is more to it, but it's been a long road for yuh Gus. Have you decided what to go with?

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I would strongly recommend you to go ahead and recycle the foam (assuming foam thickness and density are Ok for this job). This way you will be able to confirm if decoupling the sub from the floor will yield better results (vibration reductions) at your room. It is free, it will require just few minutes of your time and then you will have first hand experience if you decide to keep the foam or buy an Auralex / subdude later.
+1. If it does do anything, real or imagined, a piece of this, cut to size, will work just as good as a subdud:
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he-he lol.. There is more to it, but it's been a long road for yuh Gus. Have you decided what to go with?

I went with a pair of Arx A3rx-c for the front and a A2rx-c for center and the PSA-XV15.
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It would cost me the same to buy a PSA than getting a DIY.

Dont tell the diy crowd that, they might punch babies.
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Haha. And i agree. It would cost the same and would not come out as nice thats for sure haha
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Haha. And i agree. It would cost the same and would not come out as nice thats for sure haha
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Dont tell the diy crowd that, they might punch babies.

LOL Regardless of what I can build for 8-$900 it’s nothing but fuebar imo. It just hit my funny bone seeing Gus kind of saying the h— with it! wink.gif funny stuff imo

Gus.. XV15, cool! Congrats, a major upgrade you're going to appreciate I'm sure. cool.gif

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Question for your smart fellers! We moved not too long ago and I have my XS30 hooked up to the side of one of the couches. The sub cable is a little more exposed than it had been in our previous home. It's happened 4-5 times now where someone has stepped on or near the sub cable and the subs lets out an awful loud buzzing sound. Almost like the sound a microphone makes when it gets too close to a speaker...? I have to run over and turn off the sub as the sound is not so pleasant. Can anyone tells what this is from? Why would touching the cable do that?
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No!!!!! I meant for ME to go DIY it would not come out as nice. Sorry for the confusion
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I went with a pair of Arx A3rx-c for the front and a A2rx-c for center and the PSA-XV15.
I have the same LCR set up as you on the way to pair with my XV30. With all the delays with the speakers, my XV30 has been sitting ever so lonely in the corner of my room for a couple of weeks now. To say I've been wanting to tinker with the XV30 would be an understatement. Should have everything in by Wednesday though, so not much longer!
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I have the same LCR set up as you on the way to pair with my XV30. With all the delays with the speakers, my XV30 has been sitting ever so lonely in the corner of my room for a couple of weeks now. To say I've been wanting to tinker with the XV30 would be an understatement. Should have everything in by Wednesday though, so not much longer!

I talked to Jon from ATI, and he told me they had them in stock. I was thinking of going with empteks, but they don't have anything in stock. ETA was passed Xmas.
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No!!!!! I meant for ME to go DIY it would not come out as nice. Sorry for the confusion

Oh I was just playin Brian, although I remember a certain entertainment center you built that came out very nice. I also remember a certain project recently that the builder didn’t take magnet flare into account and had to build the baffle mounting out 1”-1/2 lol rolleyes.gif ID-DIY it’s all good imo and never/try not to gloat one way or the other.. maybe correct every now and then.

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Well the Svs SB13u is here...I hope to hear from Tom either tomorrow or Wednesday telling me my XS has shipped. Fingers crossed...cool.gif

Anyhow...here are some pictures of it...I only ran a quick set up for now with my avr for a quick listen. I'll say one thing right off the bat ....the ultra drivers hardly move unless they're driven...I noticed this prior with its big brother the pb13 and again with this unit. I don't plan on pushing this to its limits but I'll need to get some EQ before I can seriously give it some listening. Heh...I'll also need to read or download the manual because its missing and I want to read up on all the DSP modes & setting offered within this unit. I'll likely find something that works and leave it alone.

Do you guys think once my xs30 arrives it would be better to stack em or co-locate the 2 subs to compare them?

Anyhow here some pictures of the sb13u...same location for now as my last sub and likely where the xs30 will settle into. For now the one word I'll use to describe the sb13 is cute...my wife called it that when see seen it tonight...women...lol.biggrin.gif







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Well the Svs SB13u is here...I hope to hear from Tom either tomorrow or Wednesday telling me my XS has shipped. Fingers crossed...cool.gif

Anyhow...here are some pictures of it...I only ran a quick set up for now with my avr for a quick listen. I'll say one thing right off the bat ....the ultra drivers hardly move unless they're driven...I noticed this prior with its big brother the pb13 and again with this unit. I don't plan on pushing this to its limits but I'll need to get some EQ before I can seriously give it some listening. Heh...I'll also need to read or download the manual because its missing and I want to read up on all the DSP modes & setting offered within this unit. I'll likely find something that works and leave it alone.

Do you guys think once my xs30 arrives it would be better to stack em or co-locate the 2 subs to compare them?

Anyhow here some pictures of the sb13u...same location for now as my last sub and likely where the xs30 will settle into. For now the one word I'll use to describe the sb13 is cute...my wife called it that when see seen it tonight...women...lol.biggrin.gif

You are certainly doing it right, Billy p. Tom mentioned to me that stacking would be best to compare the two (obviously, the little SB13u on top of the much larger XS30). I, along with everyone else, will be curious about your thoughts on the two after breaking them in and testing them.

There is one musical track I used to compare their music capability (most music, you may not hear much of a difference, but this track I had no problems determining the subs' capabilities). It's Mike Oldfield's "Shabda" track from "Music of the Spheres". I suggest you download the track and test them.

I downloaded the manual from the SVS website. If you have any questions at all about either sub, contact PSA / SVS. I interfaced with Ed Mullen at SVS and Tom at PSA. Both were extremely helpful and prompt with their responses.

I wish you the best, Billy!
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You are certainly doing it right, Billy p. Tom mentioned to me that stacking would be best to compare the two (obviously, the little SB13u on top of the much larger XS30). I, along with everyone else, will be curious about your thoughts on the two after breaking them in and testing them.

There is one musical track I used to compare their music capability (most music, you may not hear much of a difference, but this track I had no problems determining the subs' capabilities). It's Mike Oldfield's "Shabda" track from "Music of the Spheres". I suggest you download the track and test them.

I downloaded the manual from the SVS website. If you have any questions at all about either sub, contact PSA / SVS. I interfaced with Ed Mullen at SVS and Tom at PSA. Both were extremely helpful and prompt with their responses.

I wish you the best, Billy!

Hey thanks...I recall you mentioning that song in your review and how it was able to define the 2 subs...I just demoed it on I tunes & it really sounds great...how is the rest of the CD (Music of spheres...US version) in your opinion? As for the manual....yup...I printed off the 35 pages from the Svs web site at work but I proceeded to come home without it....doh. rolleyes.gif

Agreed...both...Tom or Ed have a wealth of knowledge & experience. I wouldn't want to bother either one of them with my questions...if, I get stuck, I'll try & locate some answers in the respective owners threads before I proceed to ask them...they're far busier than I. This will strictly be for fun purposes...anyways....some people just get to caught up in all things audio related.biggrin.gif

Thanks again for your review and assistance...smile.gif

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Hey thanks...I recall you mentioning that song in your review and how it was able to define the 2 subs...I just demoed it on I tunes & it really sounds great...how is the rest of the CD (Music of spheres...US version) in your opinion? As for the manual....yup...I printed off the 35 pages from the Svs web site at work but I proceeded to come home without it....doh. rolleyes.gif

Agreed...both...Tom or Ed have a wealth of knowledge & experience. I wouldn't want to bother either one of them with my questions...if, I get stuck, I'll try & locate some answers in the respective owners threads before I proceed to ask them...they're far busier than I. This will strictly be for fun purposes...anyways....some people just get to caught up in all things audio related.biggrin.gif

Thanks again for your review and assistance...smile.gif

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Hi Bill. Since I'm a big fan of Mike Oldfield, my views would be a bit prejudice;). Music of the Spheres is more classical in nature and I do indeed rank it highly, but not in the top tier of his music. Songs of Distance Earth and Tubular Bells 2 would be my recommendation as a good starting point with Oldfield. I also like Light and Shade, and Tres Lunas a bit better than Music of the Spheres.

Ed helped me greatly (emails) on setting up the Ultra with my Maggies. Since I use the Ultra only for music, I have the gain set at -6 dB. For movies, Ed suggested I up this to -3 dB or greater. Just understand, both subwoofers are set up with 2.1 systems and not 5.1 or greater systems. Crossover points for the Ultra is 40 Hz, while the XS30 it's around 70 Hz (different requirements for different stereo speakers).

It goes without saying that I think you are in for a real fun time;).

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Thanks for the suggestions. The 5" foam was to thick! I'm going to find the XS15 box and get the foam out of that, if it does not work I'll head to Home Depot. I'm all for saving $30 at this time of year. Knew I could count on the AVS members.
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^^ Very nice. I admire your upgrading process over the short period of time. Waiting on your review/graph.....
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So I infer getting a second one was worth it ?

Your fronts stage sure looks more complete with twice the amount of XS30 biggrin.gif

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So I infer getting a second one was worth it ?

Your fronts stage sure looks more complete with twice the amount of XS30 biggrin.gif
Yes duals is incredible I finally have a strong output down to the single digits now I know what I was missing and I agree it does complete the look of the sound stage
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so now I finally have that deep extension but now with authority! I watched the bass demo disc (compliments of Cr!) and watched the usual suspects that I have watched a ton of times so I am VERY familiar with what I was getting.

The tactile response and authority is unreal!! I really didnt see what the big deal was from battle:LA...but now...WOW! This is EASLY the best upgrade I have made to the system..it finally is a TRUE night and day difference! I really cant describe it in words...but I was literally smiling, giggling and fist pumping after each scene was passing (noone was home and this was ONLY at -7db with dynamic EQ on)

I am ecstatic with this purchase!!
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[IMG ALT=""]I really didnt see what the big deal was from battle:LA...but now...WOW!

I have several blu-rays lined up. Put two on order this week: :U-571" and "Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow." The first in line will be "Battle LA." biggrin.gif

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so now I finally have that deep extension but now with authority! I watched the bass demo disc (compliments of Cr!) and watched the usual suspects that I have watched a ton of times so I am VERY familiar with what I was getting.

The tactile response and authority is unreal!! I really didnt see what the big deal was from battle:LA...but now...WOW! This is EASLY the best upgrade I have made to the system..it finally is a TRUE night and day difference! I really cant describe it in words...but I was literally smiling, giggling and fist pumping after each scene was passing (noone was home and this was ONLY at -7db with dynamic EQ on)

I am ecstatic with this purchase!!

just to cover the graph. I have that odd dip/null at 14Hz that must be some room mode (such as heating duct or somthing) but even duals cant smooth it....but its not a big deal since it is so narrow\\

but no matter what I am ridiculously happy....haven't been this excited about HT in a loooong time smile.gif I finally know what all the fuss about duals is about...
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The tactile response and authority is unreal!! I really didnt see what the big deal was from battle:LA...but now...WOW!

Yeah it was the first movie I watched alone after getting my current subs, and I had an stupid grin stamped on my face the whole time!

Now for the real test... Tell us about Pulse's Server Room scene rolleyes.gif

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