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BTW how do i run a MAX SPL on the Traix at my MLP?

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I honestly think you have something not correctly setup. You were unhappy with dual xv30's correct? And now a trial in a small room?

Do you have REW to graph your measurements?

I just think this is setup error as opposed to a sub you should be unhappy with. Maybe your in a null or something...if you can get a response graph we can help more for you

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BTW how do i run a MAX SPL on the Traix at my MLP?
You pick a frequency say 20hz. Then you keep measuring after bumping up the MV. When the response spl stops getting louder as you increase the MV back off 3db. That is your max spl...

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I honestly think you have something not correctly setup. You were unhappy with dual xv30's correct? And now a trial in a small room?

Do you have REW to graph your measurements?

I just think this is setup error as opposed to a sub you should be unhappy with. Maybe your in a null or something...if you can get a response graph we can help more for you

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You pick a frequency say 20hz. Then you keep measuring after bumping up the MV. When the response spl stops getting louder as you increase the MV back off 3db. That is your max spl...

Is it safe to keep a constant 20hz tone playing as you increase MV until spl increase stops? Won't this stress the driver and amp? I read once you shouldn't perform sweeps for more than 20 seconds at a time.
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No. You measure. Then stop tone. Increase volume. Them tone. Then so on

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I sit at about 10FT away also, but sub shows up a 10.5FT, and im in a 13x15 room, so i shouldnt have this problem, when i had 2 XV-30's they played at REF, so i called Tom and he said it was because the XV-30's werent trying to play the super low notes in the scene, lets just say im not to happy about it, even though i dont listen at REF, but i want a sub to play every movie i put in and play at REF no to distort, BTW as i played the scene as soon as the CLIP light went on i heard the Triax distort.GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Are you using any kind of EQ/room correction? If so, I wonder if a lot of boost is being applied really down low to try to compensate for a dip/null? I'm not using any kind of EQ that applies a boost.

Also, were do you have the gain set on the Triax amp? I don't know if this makes a difference, but the reason I ask is that what the manual suggests and what Tom told me the amp maker suggests are different. I believe the manual says typically the amp gain would be set between -16 and -10. I was told that the amp maker, Brian, recommends a gain setting between -10 and 0 (mine is set in this range).

When I first setup my Triax, I had the amp facing the prime LP. I never noticed the clip light come on. Once I was satisfied with the amp settings, I turned it so you can't see the amp. I guess it's possible since then I might have triggered the clip lights, but I've not heard anything that indicated an issue.

It could be very helpful if you used REW to see what's going on at your LP.

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No. You measure. Then stop tone. Increase volume. Them tone. Then so on

How long is safe for a tone?
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I wouldn't go longer than 10 seconds

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I wouldn't go longer than 10 seconds

When using pink noise for a sub crawl how loud on the MV can you go for continuous play back? Is a steady tone harder on a sub than pink noise?
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Are you using any kind of EQ/room correction? If so, I wonder if a lot of boost is being applied really down low to try to compensate for a dip/null? I'm not using any kind of EQ that applies a boost.

Also, were do you have the gain set on the Triax amp? I don't know if this makes a difference, but the reason I ask is that what the manual suggests and what Tom told me the amp maker suggests are different. I believe the manual says typically the amp gain would be set between -16 and -10. I was told that the amp maker, Brian, recommends a gain setting between -10 and 0 (mine is set in this range).

When I first setup my Triax, I had the amp facing the prime LP. I never noticed the clip light come on. Once I was satisfied with the amp settings, I turned it so you can't see the amp. I guess it's possible since then I might have triggered the clip lights, but I've not heard anything that indicated an issue.

It could be very helpful if you used REW to see what's going on at your LP.
I use XT-32, but it didnt do anything down low, it just knocked a peak at 45hz and 80hz, i was told that also, i dnt know where its at now.

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Excuse my ignorance, but did you try it with the button out? (I'm not sure what the Hutton does exactly)

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It seems like Audyssey is boosting the low end, or did you have Dynamic EQ on? or any other crap like that?

Audyssey must be boosting the low end and that may just be my problem...these XSs don't naturally go very low in my room. I did have DEQ on, but I measure at 0db MV so it doesn't matter.

I'm gonna try running Audyssey before EQ'ing this weekend and expect much better results. smile.gif
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Excuse my ignorance, but did you try it with the button out? (I'm not sure what the Hutton does exactly)
Your excused, i did do it with the button out but i deleated it grrrrr.

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Okay its here some pics. The cordovan cherry is very nice! I like the fact that PSA offers several veneer options. You can see the size difference between the XS30 vs. SB13U....can wait to get them dialed in and doing some listening.cool.gif

Ps: I'll be putting the Svs on top of the XS30 when the time comes.smile.gif









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Okay its here some pics. The cordovan cherry is very nice! I like the fact that PSA offers several veneer options. You can see the size difference between the XS30 vs. SB13U....can wait to get them dialed in and doing some listening.cool.gif

Ps: I'll be putting the Svs on top of the XS30 when the time comes.smile.gif






Very nice! smile.gif

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Okay its here some pics. The cordovan cherry is very nice! I like the fact that PSA offers several veneer options. You can see the size difference between the XS30 vs. SB13U....can wait to get them dialed in and doing some listening.cool.gif

Ps: I'll be putting the Svs on top of the XS30 when the time comes.smile.gif






 

Looks good!  I take it your amp connections on the xs30 are on the left side of the sub (as looking at this pic)?  I am going to order one here soon, but am trying to make sure I could place the xs30 lengthwise against my front wall so the drivers fire left and right and the connections are in the back

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Yeah...I told Tom ....I wish it was a tad darker...closer to my mains in fact... but I like the contrast...without the photo flash they are pretty close.

Just doing some listening with a music demo CD I burned and like to use...originated from songs I like that have fast responsive mid bass notes that you can both hear and feel.smile.gif

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Looks good! I take it your amp connections on the xs30 are on the left side of the sub (as looking at this pic)? I am going to order one here soon, but am trying to make sure I could place the xs30 lengthwise against my front wall so the drivers fire left and right and the connections are in the back

Yup and my palm tree will go right beside it....I think with dual opposed drivers your good either way....smile.gif

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Yup and my palm tree will go right beside it.

Just curious, and no other reason. Why don't you turn yours where the amp would be on the back and the drivers would fire side to side?
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Okay its here some pics. The cordovan cherry is very nice! I like the fact that PSA offers several veneer options. You can see the size difference between the XS30 vs. SB13U....can wait to get them dialed in and doing some listening.cool.gif

Ps: I'll be putting the Svs on top of the XS30 when the time comes.smile.gif

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You really have a good taste.............that subwoofer looks sexy!!!!

Congrats!!!
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Just curious, and no other reason. Why don't you turn yours where the amp would be on the back and the drivers would fire side to side?
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Looks good!  I take it your amp connections on the xs30 are on the left side of the sub (as looking at this pic)?  I am going to order one here soon, but am trying to make sure I could place the xs30 lengthwise against my front wall so the drivers fire left and right and the connections are in the back

I could try it down the road...will this yield any advantages in your opinion? With the Svs on top I want both units facing the LP. I've seen others who use dual opposed sub have them facing towards the back and front but just looking at it as I type it would be a much cleaner look....if anything.:cool

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I could try it down the road...will this yield any advantages in your opinion? With the Svs on top I want both units facing the LP. I've seen others who use dual opposed sub have them facing towards the back and front but just looking at it as I type it would be a much cleaner look....if anything.cool.gif

I don't know if it would yield any sonic advantages, (maybe a quick call to Tom?) but in my opinion, it would look better and it's how I would run. Either way you go, you have a nice room there with awesome equipment.........Those are great problems to have! biggrin.gif

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what movies make the limiter kick in? On WOTW it makes my Triax distort at -5, not to happy about it.

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Strange, I haven't noticed any distortion from my single Triax with the WOTW BD (pod emerging scene) with the sub running about 2-3db hot with MV at about -5. When I get a chance I'll try it again at reference. As a matter of fact, I've not noticed any output issues with my Triax with any material I've played (I always give out before the Triax).

For reference I sit about 10.5ft from the Triax, room volume is about 5500ft3.
I find that last part very interesting as I thought identical subs was preferred.

Hi Josh.

I tried that WOTW scene again this evening. The plan was to try it at reference (MV at 0), but the loudest I could tolerate was -2 (my apologies redface.gif ). Sub is set about 3db hot for movies, so we can say it was running about 1db above reference.

I still didn't hear any complaints from the Triax. Unfortunately, the way it's positioned I can't see the clip light (Christmas tree in the way.......woe to me if I get caught taking the tree down to move the Triax to see the clip light...lol). However, I do have an Anti Mode in line and it's clip warning light never flickered. I was able to get the Anti Mode clip light to flicker a couple times when demoing the opening and ice field scenes in Titan AE (DTS DVD). At times I feared damage to the room! Again, no complaints from the Triax.

I'm thinking you must have some setup/settings issue that causing the problem. Was Tom able to offer any suggestions?

If there is anything else I can check for you let me know. smile.gif

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I don't know if it would yield any sonic advantages, (maybe a quick call to Tom?) but in my opinion, it would look better and it's how I would run. Either way you go, you have a nice room there with awesome equipment.........Those are great problems to have! biggrin.gif

I did fire off an email for Tom... looking for some assistance in having to deal with 2 subs and level matching them. My receivers REQ only allows 1 sub to be measured and I manually had to set each subs gain with my RSM ~75dbs. This makes me wonder if those current levels will not work or not? With my last sub it was set around the 9 o'clock position... the xs30 is set ~1 o'clock and the sb13 had to be set around +7 on the gain dial. I also ask about the options or his opinion on how to face the drivers for optimum results...smile.gif



Anyhow...we'll see what the "man" has to say...tomorrow....

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Hey guys, i currently have an ED a7s-450 and really love it. How does it compare to the PSA XV-15? I also haven't listened to any of the PSA subs but owners here are extremely happy.

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I did fire off an email for Tom... looking for some assistance in having to deal with 2 subs and level matching them. My receivers REQ only allows 1 sub to be measured and I manually had to set each subs gain with my RSM ~75dbs. This makes me wonder if those current levels will not work or not? With my last sub it was set around the 9 o'clock position... the xs30 is set ~1 o'clock and the sb13 had to be set around +7 on the gain dial. I also ask about the options or his opinion on how to face the drivers for optimum results...smile.gif



Anyhow...we'll see what the "man" has to say...tomorrow....

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Hi Josh.

I tried that WOTW scene again this evening. The plan was to try it at reference (MV at 0), but the loudest I could tolerate was -2 (my apologies redface.gif ). Sub is set about 3db hot for movies, so we can say it was running about 1db above reference.

I still didn't hear any complaints from the Triax. Unfortunately, the way it's positioned I can't see the clip light (Christmas tree in the way.......woe to me if I get caught taking the tree down to move the Triax to see the clip light...lol). However, I do have an Anti Mode in line and it's clip warning light never flickered. I was able to get the Anti Mode clip light to flicker a couple times when demoing the opening and ice field scenes in Titan AE (DTS DVD). At times I feared damage to the room! Again, no complaints from the Triax.

I'm thinking you must have some setup/settings issue that causing the problem. Was Tom able to offer any suggestions?

If there is anything else I can check for you let me know. smile.gif
TY for trying it at ref, that scene is loud, you have the blu-ray of WOTW right?, Tom said that i was hitting the limit of the triax.

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Your excused, i did do it with the button out but i deleated it grrrrr.


Did you ever check line voltage to the sub before and during playback at loud levels?

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