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It's a box on a slab.

which is different then a box with two holes in the front and a driver?...lol
There's only so much you can do with a sub that hasn't been done before, and like you've stated again your gripe is really just with the finish.
I never said that you said it was bad either. But your statement that it needs a re-design is silly.
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which is different then a box with two holes in the front and a driver?...lol
There's only so much you can do with a sub that hasn't been done before, and like you've stated again your gripe is really just with the finish.
I never said that you said it was bad either. But your statement that it needs a re-design is silly.

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Prime, I'm not trying to argue with you. But you said and I quote "the design needs a major overhaul....fast"
Yet everything you said you didn't find "sexy" about it has to do with the finish. That is not the same as the "design"
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Xv15 Darla scene in nemo!!!!!!! This thing blows away the pb12!!
Dooooooo youuuuuu speaaaaaaak Whaaaaaaaaaleeeee? wink.gif guess you have to be a dad to get that one!
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Dooooooo youuuuuu speaaaaaaak Whaaaaaaaaaleeeee? wink.gif guess you have to be a dad to get that one!

Haha I don't think there's an animated movie that I haven't seen!! two thirds of our blu-ray movies are the kids animated movies!..lol
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Prime, I'm not trying to argue with you. But you said and I quote "the design needs a major overhaul....fast"
Yet everything you said you didn't find "sexy" about it has to do with the finish. That is not the same as the "design"

Ok, then I revise my statement. I don't find the finish sexy.

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I like the look of the XV30.
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Haha I don't think there's an animated movie that I haven't seen!! two thirds of our blu-ray movies are the kids animated movies!..lol
Same here. It's a plus that there are good bass kids movies. Httyd nemo Horton hears a who. Helps when it sounds great and you watch it over and over and over lol
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Haha I don't think there's an animated movie that I haven't seen!! two thirds of our blu-ray movies are the kids animated movies!..lol

Same with us. Most if them really aren't too bad. For the most part, the picture is great and the sound is usually awesome! Now that I have a kid, I don't mind watching them at all. I actually will finish watching the movie we start after be goes to bed.
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Tomorrows agenda with the new XS30

The Dark Knight Rises
Flight of the Phoenix
Finding Nemo
Underworld Awakening
Tron
Total Recall
Dredd
Blue Man Group: How to be a Megastar

Just to start lol
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Got my XS30 earlier this week but have not had time to tune them in yet. Just placed in a corner and plugged it in for now. Didn't have time and was very late to setup Audyssey. I'll definitely have more time by the weekend for sure or earlier if possible. But WOW, it's the first time I felt some rumble in the jungle.....and by jungle I mean my butt tongue.gif The bass is definitely room shaking for sure with only a few minutes of testing.

Now, can anyone provide any input on how to keep some of that noise, bass from getting outside the house? I usually will watch my movies at -10 volume on the AVR and I only had it to about -15 last night with the gain around 2'clock and when I went outside, I could definitely hear the rumbling outside. So neighbors are not going to like that.

It seems like one of the best ways is to build an outline of the room within a room by adding some drywall with the green noise cancelling glue between the drywall sheets and then to place it over your existing wall. This is not a option at this point b/c our walls have custom paint patterns on them and it would be a pain to recreate to say the least.

I also see some people blow fiberglass material between the studs in the walls which require drilling towards the top of the walls and blowing that material inbetween each stud. I'd rather not do this if possible and I think there is already insulation there, but not sure.

Of course adding curtains and carpet which we currently have should help as well.

Now my theatre room has an opening to the 2nd floor and there are also double doors that lead to the balcony. Right now there are only blinds on the double door windows and no curtains at the moment. I guess I could try to add some curtains over those windows but they are not regular sized but rather smaller size.

Then I read about panels and using those to absorb some of the sound as well as using bass traps in the corners of the room. One of the pics looks like the bass traps are like foamy cheese shaped objects that help absorb sound to allow better low level bass performance, but does it help if keeping the bass inside the room? Also they look somewhat silly if you're placing in your room, unless you just bring them out when you're about to watch a movie.

I've also seen people seal up their windows, doors, and outlets as much as possible with soundproof glue to help as well. When I was outside last night, I didn't check the the side of the house which is all brick. Maybe that side does a better job of keeping the noise down. I only checked the side where the double doors to the balcony were and could hear about where the neighbors house was. Of course the neighbor has brick to help but I want to make sure it's not too crazy for them.

I might just have to talk to them and let them know my situation and ask what time they usually sleep and hopefully their bedrooms are on the far side away from my place. And even ask them to come over for a screening so they can see what I have an maybe understand a bit better.

I think I ran across an thread which mentioned that bass is almost impossible o keep out vs the mid and highs of trebles. Is this true?

Sorry for the lengthy post, but does everybody else just have super sealed soundproof rooms or nice neighbors or neither? smile.gif

Thanks in advance!

You're worrying too much about your neighbors. With bedrooms on the far side, you should be fne. They'll tell you if it's too loud. Why invite all that unnecessary grief by asking them abut it?
Crank it and enjoy. If they complain, then turn it down a little.
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You're worrying too much about your neighbors. With bedrooms on the far side, you should be fne. They'll tell you if it's too loud. Why invite all that unnecessary grief by asking them abut it?
Crank it and enjoy. If they complain, then turn it down a little.

Exactly, better to ask for forgiveness than permission. wink.gif
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I just did A little while ago, have it unpacked and letting it warm up to room temp. before I hook it up.smile.gif

Well, Crazy, are they room temperature yet?
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Well, Crazy, are they room temperature yet?

Ha, yes.. I only purchased one though .
I have it only set up by SPL meter though, I will run Audyssey tomorrow, but so far Music and a few samples of movies verify that this XS30 is one great sub.smile.gif

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Ha, yes.. I only purchased one though .
I have it only set up by SPL meter though, I will run Audyssey tomorrow, but so far Music and a few samples of movies verify that this XS30 is one great sub.smile.gif

Here's 3 photo's
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The last one is the XS30 sitting next to a HSU VTF-1 that's on a 23" L x 15" W x 2.75" high Auralex GRAMMA



Make sure you report back after you get properly set up
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You're worrying too much about your neighbors. With bedrooms on the far side, you should be fne. They'll tell you if it's too loud. Why invite all that unnecessary grief by asking them abut it?
Crank it and enjoy. If they complain, then turn it down a little.
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Exactly, better to ask for forgiveness than permission. wink.gif

That would be the easier route for sure, but I guess I am over thinking things. Or at least I hope. I could always play the innocent card in that I didn't know it was that loud and I'm sorry. But then what do you do from there smile.gif I'm hoping the issue is moot and the neighbors really can't hear it or it just is faint enough that it doesn't matter. I guess you all don't have issues with your neighbors then? I don't but just wondering.


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The last one is the XS30 sitting next to a HSU VTF-1 that's on a 23" L x 15" W x 2.75" high Auralex GRAMMA

I did notice yesterday that I could hear the closet door and shelves shaking so maybe I need to invest in the Auralex Gramma or something similar. Does seem a bit expensive though, but I guess if it does the job by keeping the shaking down in the room, I might have to get something similar. I assume it helps you out alot?

Thanks,

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I felt that the Auralex Gramma worked for me with the Hsu down-firing sub, but I forgot to ask Tom if it would be of any benefit for the XS30 sealed sub.
I did put mine on some 2" diameter sliders which keeps it from sitting directly on the carpet because of it's weight and helps me to move it around.
Also I would need help to try to center it on the Gramma since the sub is so huge.smile.gif

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Should you use a surge protector with the sub? Or plug it straight into the wall?
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Should you use a surge protector with the sub? Or plug it straight into the wall?
If its one of the whole house surge protectors, these are fine (as stated previously in this thread). Power conditioners, strips, etc.. not so much!
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No its just a surge protector that you plug into the wall.
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The XS30, XS15 and XV15, both duals and singles have been getting all the love here. How come the XV30 gets so little attention? Is anyone on this forum using an XV30? Wut up wit dat?

According to Tom, XV-30 was sold out in Dec.
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must be a secret society.

on another note...aparantly i was running my xv15 super hot when i initailly calibrated it with SPL meter. I ran audyessy and the intial calibration of the sub wa 95db lol!! but even with that setting the thing didnt break a sweat! with nemo at -8db. this thing has some major power in reserve. makes my former pb12-nsd seem like a bose bass cube (well maybe not that bad haha)
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must be a secret society.

Nothing secret about that.
For the most part, they are just more active listeners than they are speakers. On the Internet, they are referred to as lurkers. When they do speak, usually they are informed and not just spouting off like many people do.
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I don't think people really want to pay the price for it. I don't see it being a large sub as the reason. ...... The design needs a major overhaul...fast.

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Good, works for you. I was speaking towards the look of the sub. It's a box on a slab.... ...
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There are a lot of sexy subs out there. ..... It's just not a pleasing design for me right now.


You telling Tom V have to redesign fast on one of the best sub was sold out in Dec?
Do you know they sold out like hot cakes with in few months?
That was an excellent troll you posted.
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Should you use a surge protector with the sub? Or plug it straight into the wall?

Somewhere in this thread Tom V recommend plug it straight into the wall. This topic has been mention many times; sorry I couldn’t remember to point to exactly threads.
If you have to use some kind of surge protection, make sure it has some serious amp ratings.
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on another note...aparantly i was running my xv15 super hot when i initailly calibrated it with SPL meter. I ran audyessy and the intial calibration of the sub wa 95db lol!! but even with that setting the thing didnt break a sweat! with nemo at -8db. this thing has some major power in reserve. makes my former pb12-nsd seem like a bose bass cube (well maybe not that bad haha)

It's normal if you set sub's gain at 2 o'clock. You're right about this Bash amp, plenty of power in reserve.
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i actually put it at 3 o'clock as I have read somewhere about the PSA subs. and then adjusted the trim on the AVR. i then turned it down using audyessy so now its more like 1 o'clock and -.05 on the avr (but that was bumped up from -4 cause i always run a little hot ~82db on the spl meter)
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