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Ordered my dual XS15se's yesterday! Tom says I should have them by Friday, and I'll set them up over next weekend. Can't wait to try them out!
congrats on the purchase of your new subs... im looking at those as well.. may I ask why you decided on a pair of xs15se?


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A sub close to you may not give the best tactile response in all cases. I moved my subs further apart and actually got a sightly better tactile response. Two of my subs are 20 ft from the MLP. It seem counter intuitive but, it's true. I did not loose any spl.
It does in my room so I made that comment based on what I experienced.
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Constructed of double shielded, true 75 ohm coax cable for ultra crisp sounding audio
FPE dielectric insulation allows for a stable velocity of propagation therefore minimizing possible timing delays
Cables nominal capacitance is an exceptional 18.6 pf/ft and has a nominal attenuation of 3.00 dB/100ft
Dual shielding includes a 100% aluminum/mylar foil, plus a 95% tinned copper braid
High quality, gold plated, heavy duty shielded connectors optimizes connectivity and maintains a clear signal integrity
The connector backshells are made of a durable, zinc plated metal alloy
Lead Free, "silver laced" solder is used in order to reduce loss and maximize conductivity
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does the above sound like a good rca male to male double shielded sub cable ?
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Sounds over the top...ill just stick with media bridge cables or mono price premium stuff.
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Sounds over the top...ill just stick with media bridge cables or mono price premium stuff.

really over the top... ? its a 6.00 dollar cable..


need to know what your buying bro!


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Constructed of double shielded, true 75 ohm coax cable for ultra crisp sounding audio
FPE dielectric insulation allows for a stable velocity of propagation therefore minimizing possible timing delays
Cables nominal capacitance is an exceptional 18.6 pf/ft and has a nominal attenuation of 3.00 dB/100ft
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Lead Free, "silver laced" solder is used in order to reduce loss and maximize conductivity
Lifetime manufacturers warranty

does the above sound like a good rca male to male double shielded sub cable ?
Sounds really good to me, I use all BJC cables in my setup and for the money, made in the USA (Belden) and terminated by BJC you can't go wrong. Life time warranty as well, not for $6 tho. I believe, besides the cable material, the ends and how they are terminated are vital to cable performance and reliability, just my 2 cents.... Who makes the cable you're describing, just curious for 6$.
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Sounds over the top...ill just stick with media bridge cables or mono price premium stuff.

really over the top... ? its a 6.00 dollar cable..


need to know what your buying bro!


cheers
I was just assuming since you posted a paragraph of all the contents it was something special. Point is I do not get that deep with cables. That being said for 6.00 I would try it.
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Ordered my dual XS15se's yesterday! Tom says I should have them by Friday, and I'll set them up over next weekend. Can't wait to try them out!
congrats on the purchase of your new subs... im looking at those as well.. may I ask why you decided on a pair of xs15se?


thanks and enjoy!
Really just price and the advice of those on this thread. I was looking at PSA, Rhythmik, and SVS. I chose the 2xs15se's over 1 xs30se in order to gain better sound equalization. I didn't go ported because it was a little outside my budget, and I had ported before and I find sealed to provide a tighter, cleaner sound that I like. The duals should give me a nice flat bass and plenty of extension for my room. We'll see in a week!
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A sub close to you may not give the best tactile response in all cases. I moved my subs further apart and actually got a sightly better tactile response. Two of my subs are 20 ft from the MLP. It seem counter intuitive but, it's true. I did not loose any spl.

Thanks for the heads up, I have two about 13-14' and the other two will be about 8-10' behind the MLP, waiting on the fourth. Will post my thoughts.
Cheers Jeff
If you have 4 subs try the spreading them out as far as possible, like all 4 corners or mid wall. Corner loading may more than make up for spl due to distance. I use mine this way.
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Constructed of double shielded, true 75 ohm coax cable for ultra crisp sounding audio
FPE dielectric insulation allows for a stable velocity of propagation therefore minimizing possible timing delays
Cables nominal capacitance is an exceptional 18.6 pf/ft and has a nominal attenuation of 3.00 dB/100ft
Dual shielding includes a 100% aluminum/mylar foil, plus a 95% tinned copper braid
High quality, gold plated, heavy duty shielded connectors optimizes connectivity and maintains a clear signal integrity
The connector backshells are made of a durable, zinc plated metal alloy
Lead Free, "silver laced" solder is used in order to reduce loss and maximize conductivity
Lifetime manufacturers warranty

does the above sound like a good rca male to male double shielded sub cable ?
Sounds really good to me, I use all BJC cables in my setup and for the money, made in the USA (Belden) and terminated by BJC you can't go wrong. Life time warranty as well, not for $6 tho. I believe, besides the cable material, the ends and how they are terminated are vital to cable performance and reliability, just my 2 cents.... Who makes the cable you're describing, just curious for 6$.
Cheers Jeff
what do you pay for bjc 's sub rca cable and how long is it?


sorry I reported the wrong price its 9.80 for 6ft and 10.80 for 10ft...


which is really good for up in Canada ... im also use my cable guy discounts.. he he he which is not much he he he .. 15%


but it sure is better than 49.99 for 15ft retail... best buy stuff...


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Ordered my dual XS15se's yesterday! Tom says I should have them by Friday, and I'll set them up over next weekend. Can't wait to try them out!
congrats on the purchase of your new subs... im looking at those as well.. may I ask why you decided on a pair of xs15se?


thanks and enjoy!
Really just price and the advice of those on this thread. I was looking at PSA, Rhythmik, and SVS. I chose the 2xs15se's over 1 xs30se in order to gain better sound equalization. I didn't go ported because it was a little outside my budget, and I had ported before and I find sealed to provide a tighter, cleaner sound that I like. The duals should give me a nice flat bass and plenty of extension for my room. We'll see in a week!


nice .. let us know what you think..
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Today I watched Olympic has fallen in my 10x14 sealed room with my triax and my pb 12 plus the triax just kills my room the triax hits very low bass that u could feel big time and I haven't even hit reference yet.
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Today I watched Olympic has fallen in my 10x14 sealed room with my triax and my pb 12 plus the triax just kills my room the triax hits very low bass that u could feel big time and I haven't even hit reference yet.
Hi Robert,

I still remember our initial conversations about the Triax. You were considering ordering duals for that room. I was trying to convince you to just start with one. There has got to be some serious pressurization going on there..

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Ordered my dual XS15se's yesterday! Tom says I should have them by Friday, and I'll set them up over next weekend. Can't wait to try them out!
congrats on the purchase of your new subs... im looking at those as well.. may I ask why you decided on a pair of xs15se?


thanks and enjoy!
Really just price and the advice of those on this thread. I was looking at PSA, Rhythmik, and SVS. I chose the 2xs15se's over 1 xs30se in order to gain better sound equalization. I didn't go ported because it was a little outside my budget, and I had ported before and I find sealed to provide a tighter, cleaner sound that I like. The duals should give me a nice flat bass and plenty of extension for my room. We'll see in a week!
Hi Quentin, These should be shipping out in about an hour. We'll have all the tracking info on the way soon.

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most important thing to me is blending with the music from my studio 100s naturally.. be crossing over 50-60hz area .. subs will be set up with left and right stereo output for 2 channel

for movies they will me mono channel.. and about 8 ft apart.. 7db loss over the vented sub sounds massive .. will the xs 15 still have enough output and round 16 20 hz
to be usefull for movies?


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From what I understand, Josh Ricci has tested the XS15, we are just waiting for the review to be posted. As far as if they will have enough output on movies, only you can determine that. One would probably give way more than most people could ever want. For others, four would fall short.
He is still in the process of completing all the data collection. Then he has to review, edit, format, etc. Then we get it for peer review, comments, etc. In other words, it may be a few days, or a few weeks. We must remember that Josh does this in his "spare time" and that much of it can only be accomplished "weather permitting".. He needs to increase his rates too. I know how much time and work goes into these tests.

I know I'm bias a bit here but our charting on the website should match up with his stuff very well...+/- half a dB for example....FR as well. I know every wants to see the "guts" though...Group delay, Impulse, Compression, etc. I don't blame you guys..

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Just a heads up, we have seen most/all of the data now I believe and Josh is hoping to have the time to update his site with the XS15se and XV30Fse data sets in the next day or two.

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Just a heads up, we have seen most/all of the data now I believe and Josh is hoping to have the time to update his site with the XS15se and XV30Fse data sets in the next day or two.

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OOh two new subs tested...yum.
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I am glad a sealed and ported sub were tested instead of the XS15 and XS30 which I believe was mentioned initially. That way we can have a idea of how the entire power X lineup will perform.
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I am glad a sealed and ported sub were tested instead of the XS15 and XS30 which I believe was mentioned initially. That way we can have a idea of how the entire power X lineup will perform.
I think we have 2 XS30se out for review now. One with a new reviewer(for us) that also does CEA-2010.

I wouldn't be surprised if we sent Josh the XV15se later this summer/ early fall with the Triax in tow..

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Every sub you make tested independently by third parties? That's not allowed is it? I do believe you will be the only company to claim that. Says a lot about your confidence in your products and advertised output data.
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Every sub you make tested independently by third parties? That's not allowed is it? I do believe you will be the only company to claim that. Says a lot about your confidence in your products and advertised output data.
I have no doubt in my mind, people like "he who shall not be named" will call bs. Will say the testers were paid off. That the conditions were faked. SOMETHING, so in their petty little minds they're right and everybody else is wrong.

I keep thinking of getting another errr a new xv15se, but.. alas, I still have way too many hobbies. lol
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Tom, do you expect an increase in sales due to the third party testing/reviews, and, if so, do you expect to be able to meet the demand?
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Every sub you make tested independently by third parties? That's not allowed is it? I do believe you will be the only company to claim that. Says a lot about your confidence in your products and advertised output data.
I have no doubt in my mind, people like "he who shall not be named" will call bs. Will say the testers were paid off. That the conditions were faked. SOMETHING, so in their petty little minds they're right and everybody else is wrong.

I keep thinking of getting another errr a new xv15se, but.. alas, I still have way too many hobbies. lol
Oh I'm quite sure everything we measure well in----will be down played as meaningless. And anything we don't measure better than everyone else? That will suddenly become the most important metric in the subwoofer universe. When the sole goal is to unfairly critic a product/brand....that is just the way you have to do things. We have seen this practice before of course..

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Tom, do you expect an increase in sales due to the third party testing/reviews, and, if so, do you expect to be able to meet the demand?
Hard to say. Jim and I are complete novices when it comes to SEO and analytics. We have been trying to learn more as time allows but there is just so much time in the week. When it comes to Josh I'd think the large majority of folks who visit his site already know who we are and what we sell. So probably not much in the way of new visitors to the site.

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I am glad a sealed and ported sub were tested instead of the XS15 and XS30 which I believe was mentioned initially. That way we can have a idea of how the entire power X lineup will perform.
I think we have 2 XS30se out for review now. One with a new reviewer(for us) that also does CEA-2010.

I wouldn't be surprised if we sent Josh the XV15se later this summer/ early fall with the Triax in tow..

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Well, that was fast.

Now, someone tell me what all those graphs mean.
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I love this quote, and I'm sure Tom does too.

"Based on the measurements and performance metrics alone it compares quite well to other commercial sealed subwoofers at 2x to 3x the price. "
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Wholy S***!! The XS15se is hanging with the PB13u in sealed mode for 1/2 the cost. Damn fine measurements and stays very linear!!
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Well, that was fast.

Now, someone tell me what all those graphs mean.
It means Tom has just now gotten me considering the XS15 vs just the XV15. That is all this noob needed, more indecisiveness. Thanks, Tom!
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