Originally Posted by bear123
Well I have never used the XV15's without them so I can't compare, but I don't have any problem with the subs dancing around. Jim said this can sometimes happen at very high output levels on hardwood. I am sure no PSA owners ever turn their subs up very loud though so.........
Originally Posted by DonnyKerabatsos
The search function doesn't seem to be working, so apologies on not being able to find the answer to my question on my own. Realizing I'm posting to a biased audience in this thread, I'd welcome any input:
Set up: Definitive Technology ProMonitor 1000s upfront, Def Tech ProSub 1000 (which I'm looking to replace). Center is a proCenter 1000, rears are proMonitor800s. Denon 1913 AVR.
Room: 14x22x9 with the room open to a stair well, a dining room and a hall way.
Use: Probably gets more use for TV than anything, time wise, but 2.1 stereo music listening is where I focus my attention. Obviously, digging deeper on the register when watching movies is something I'm hoping for.
Budget: was hoping for the $500 range, but as I indicate below, I could go up to $1000.
Smaller and higher quality fit and finish are important for WAF, but she is fine with the current DT sub, which isn't really a beauty, in my opinion.
I've emailed with SVS and they recommended the PB1000. Merlin says the PB1000 or SB1000. Given my preference for musical performance over HT use, I thought about opting for the SB1000 over their advice, and since its smaller, I could maybe convince the wife to allow a second one in the room. 2x SB1000 is the priciest option I've considered, but sealed subs (tighter bass) and the small footprint appeal to me.
I've emailed Hsu and described my room, speakers and uses and the recommendation was the Hsu VTF-3 Mk4. My reservations are its size and the variable tuning will probably lead to me fiddling with it until my wife threatens my physical well being.
Lots of folks have recommended the Rythmik LV12R, and reviews seem to indicate that it is especially music friendly for a ported sub.
PSA recommended the xv15se, but I think that'll be just too massive; they said the PSA xs15 would also do well as long as I didn't want to play at extremely loud volumes.
Other options I should consider, or help picking among the choices presented is appreciated.
Ah - the proverbial "what sub(s) should I buy scenario" - first let's look at your room dimensions - 2772 cubic feet + the undefined spaces you mention. Typical rule of thumb seems to be that sealed sub(s) are fine for <3000 cubic feet listening areas, ported for >3000 cubic feet - although you'll probably find arguments for sealed/ported regardless of room size.
"Use: Probably gets more use for TV than anything, time wise, but 2.1 stereo music listening is where I focus my attention. Obviously, digging deeper on the register when watching movies is something I'm hoping for."
You mention watching movies on TV - are you streaming via Netflix, Amazon, Vudu, etc, watching BluRays? The better the content source - the better any sub you purchase will be capable of reproducing the bass & LFE content. If you are just watching standard over the air, or cable/satellite content your subwoofers & speakers will be receiving a very compressed signal and your subwoofer output will be reduced significantly.
Size matters - if you are simply looking for a small subwoofer footprint - the dual SB1000 option may work well for you. Keep in mind that the main advantage of utilizing 2 or more subwoofers is to smooth the response in your room. Do you utilize measuring equipment, i.e. REW or Omnimac? If so that will be helpful in optimizing subwoofer placement. However you seem to hint at WAF issues - and to the extent that placement options are limited - it may not make sense to purchase two subwoofers if you are restricted in placement options.
Most participants in this thread will tell you to opt for as much woofage as you can afford, and as much WAF pushback as you can tolerate. All I can tell you is that after about 10 years of fumbling through an assortment of subwoofer(s) purchases I finally arrived at my current configuration of a PSA XS 30 + XS 15 in a room slightly smaller than yours (2447 cubic feet) with the ability to close the doors off to the rest of the house. You didn't mention typical listening volume and/or type of movie content, although you did mention 2.1 stereo preference for music. Virtually all of the sub options you mentioned will provide superior results to your current ProSub 1000 - my experience suggests that you purchase the most powerful sub your budget & WAF will tolerate, and think about adding a matching sub down the road once the budget/WAF absorb the initial purchase impact.