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It's amazing how many people buy a PSA sub and like clockwork wonder what two or three might sound like. I'm extremely guilty of that fact, I just do it and then think what did I just do, I can't help myself. Once I get the speakers I may be in divorce court of have to hire a contractor
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This is just my small view of things, but I have never seen them wish they went with something else either. It always seems to be a case of "these subs are darn impressive.... Now I must have more!!!"

And at the price points Tom/Jim have set, it's pretty darn achievable.
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Hi Bob, Please see page 10

https://emotiva.com/resources/manual...ser_manual.pdf

You need to manually adjust those little dials on the back panel(and make sure the toggle switches are set correctly).

The Studio 100s are really good speakers but they aren't going to have the headroom the XS15se does <100hz. I know it may seem counter intuitive to set the 100s for a 100-120hz highpass but give it a shot....at least 100hz. And leave it that way for a couple days while we trouble shoot the phase / distance /etc..

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thanks for the tip Tom.. yup toggle switches are both turned in so the high and low pass are turned on..


the low pass dial is set a tad higher than the high pass dial just so no gap.. tiny bit.. turning the dials is not easy behind my rack lol


but I cant say enough about the clean sounding performance of the analog xsp 1 pre amp great value for your money.. blow any avr out of the water sq wise.


Big Dan over at emotiva just announced that xmc 1 will start shipping out to people very soon.. that is going to be one heck of a pre pro for ht n 2channel .. I will wait for reviews to come out and have to save my peanuts again.. lol


didn't do any work on the subs settings to sore..


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ps so I started with 2 subs now thinking about getting 4 or 6 LOL
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Yeah, I'm finally getting enough output now with my 4 XS15s stacked....now I want 2 more to smooth my response!

When does it end??
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Yeah, I'm finally getting enough output now with my 4 XS15s stacked....now I want 2 more to smooth my response!

When does it end??
When you learn to stay off this forum.
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Yeah, I'm finally getting enough output now with my 4 XS15s stacked....now I want 2 more to smooth my response!

When does it end??


maybe you need 4 more to keep it balanced!!!


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ps how big is your room?
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ps how big is your room?
~5K cu. ft.
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Yeah, I'm finally getting enough output now with my 4 XS15s stacked....now I want 2 more to smooth my response!

When does it end??
It never ends I'm going to try stacking my four XV15SEs, two in each front L&R corners tonight and will post my thoughts, I have a ton of room gain with the two subs in each front corners, I can only imagine with four up front Right now I have them spread out evenly (all four about same distance to MLP) but have not calibrated them yet, will try this tonight before stacking all four up front.
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Yeah, I'm finally getting enough output now with my 4 XS15s stacked....now I want 2 more to smooth my response!

When does it end??
Never!

If you ever get satisfied with the bass (I am after 4 Triax's) you find other things to upgrade like speakers, and avr's then to pre-pro's and amps better projector, acoustically transparent screens, room treatments......
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Never!

If you ever get satisfied with the bass (I am after 4 Triax's) you find other things to upgrade like speakers, and avr's then to pre-pro's and amps better projector, acoustically transparent screens, room treatments......

I hear you Ray, I'm upgrading speakers and a new AVR in the very near future, it truly never ends until you do

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I hear you Ray, I'm upgrading speakers and a new AVR in the very near future, it truly never ends until you do
just wondering how big is your room?


If your looking for a new avr check out the xmc 1... reviews will be coming in a few weeks... dirac live room correction will be awesome for subs...


cheers..


just came across this info thought I would add...


I've been given the go ahead to share the XMC-1 AP test data with all of you. This is not a cherry-picked unit. This test data was gleamed from a random XMC-1 pulled straight off the line, and that will be shipped to an eager customer soon. The numbers you're seeing here represent those of actual production units and not a test mule. Also, look for the manual on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone!

xmc-1 specification test 2014-07-11.pdf (1.74 MB)

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Never!

If you ever get satisfied with the bass (I am after 4 Triax's) you find other things to upgrade like speakers, and avr's then to pre-pro's and amps better projector, acoustically transparent screens, room treatments......
I was going to "like" your highly accurate post. But truth is I don't like the fact it's true. No matter how much it seems the finish line is drawing near, with each new purchase something else just becomes the proverbial "weak link" that just has to be upgraded.

Upgradeitis needs a vaccine!

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just wondering how big is your room?


If your looking for a new avr check out the xmc 1... reviews will be coming in a few weeks... dirac live room correction will be awesome for subs...


cheers..


just came across this info thought I would add...


I've been given the go ahead to share the XMC-1 AP test data with all of you. This is not a cherry-picked unit. This test data was gleamed from a random XMC-1 pulled straight off the line, and that will be shipped to an eager customer soon. The numbers you're seeing here represent those of actual production units and not a test mule. Also, look for the manual on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone!

xmc-1 specification test 2014-07-11.pdf (1.74 MB)
The link doesn't work unless you are a member of that forum. Also, I may be mistaken but I don't believe "direc" can handle multiple subs discretely. Then there's the issue of having no idea what version of dirac is even implemented here? I don't mean to sound like negative nancy or anything....I just have spent so much of my time trying to help customers sort through the umc-200 *quirks* (with nearly *zero* help from a real manual mind you) that I'm a bit jaded.

Honestly, at this point, I'm not sure why anyone would invest in a new processor that didn't have Atmos capabilities. If I was in the market it would be the big Denon with AUDY XT32, SUB EQ HT, and Atmos. But to each their own of course.

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I was going to "like" your highly accurate post. But truth is I don't like the fact it's true. No matter how much it seems the finish line is drawing near, with each new purchase something else just becomes the proverbial "weak link" that just has to be upgraded.

Upgradeitis needs a vaccine!
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The link doesn't work unless you are a member of that forum. Also, I may be mistaken but I don't believe "direc" can handle multiple subs discretely. Then there's the issue of having no idea what version of dirac is even implemented here? I don't mean to sound like negative nancy or anything....I just have spent so much of my time trying to help customers sort through the umc-200 *quirks* (with nearly *zero* help from a real manual mind you) that I'm a bit jaded.

Honestly, at this point, I'm not sure why anyone would invest in a new processor that didn't have Atmos capabilities. If I was in the market it would be the big Denon with AUDY XT32, SUB EQ HT, and Atmos. But to each their own of course.

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yeah Tom you could be very right.. im waiting to read the reviews... atmos theaters are awesome.. that's the avx movie theaters up in Canada with dolby atmos..


im not the type to buy the 1st one off the line .. like to hear what people think.. think the main thing emo fans are excited about is the sq that the xmc 1 may offer
that it could be comparable to the xsp 1 analog pre amp would be a grand slam home run...


the difference from my denon In pure direct mode 2 channel to the xsp 1 is night and day way way better... ... avrs do a lot of things and not many very well..
did not know denon had dolby atmos already...


just want to read the reviews..


cheers..

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My room is about 2800cf with four XV15SEs

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I run 3 XV15se in a 2400^3 room. Just another day at the office.

If I had your size room I would have 4 XV30's. Actually I probably would just go DIY at that point.
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I run 3 XV15se in a 2400^3 room. Just another day at the office.

If I had your size room I would have 4 XV30's. Actually I probably would just go DIY at that point.
You guys are sick!

(and I'm jealous )
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You guys are sick!

(and I'm jealous )

It is a progressive disease that can be contracted by reading this forum and hearing deep bass.

My room is 4300+ cu. ft. and I only have to XV15se's. I somehow feel inadequate.


On a side note, I watched an old animated movie called Titan AE again the other day and was impressed by the soundtrack and the bass. Actually, almost everything I watch now impresses me with bass. I have found my sweet spot and have realized that my subs make the content better with almost everything. I no longer seek the ultimate bass tracks and movies. I am in a happy place.

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It is a progressive disease that can be contracted by reading this forum and hearing deep bass.

My room is 4300+ cu. ft. and I only have to XV15se's. I somehow feel inadequate.


On a side note, I watched an old animated movie called Titan AE again the other day and was impressed by the soundtrack and the bass. Actually, almost everything I watch now impresses me with bass. I have found my sweet spot and have realized that my subs make the content better with almost everything. I no longer seek the ultimate bass tracks and movies. I am in a happy place.
Titan AE is one of the best bass films ever even though it is old and DVD only.
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It is a progressive disease that can be contracted by reading this forum and hearing deep bass.

My room is 4300+ cu. ft. and I only have to XV15se's. I somehow feel inadequate.


On a side note, I watched an old animated movie called Titan AE again the other day and was impressed by the soundtrack and the bass. Actually, almost everything I watch now impresses me with bass. I have found my sweet spot and have realized that my subs make the content better with almost everything. I no longer seek the ultimate bass tracks and movies. I am in a happy place.
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The DTS track on Titan AE is excellent!
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I don't have an exact measurement on my room but I think it is about 3300-3500 cubic feet with the quad Triax's.
Wow 4 Triaxs. I only have one in a 14x10 seald room and I haven't even reached its full power. Its shakes my Projector big time when it hits low and room shaking. Do your ears get plugged with quad Triax?
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Wow 4 Triaxs. I only have one in a 14x10 seald room and I haven't even reached its full power. Its shakes my Projector big time when it hits low and room shaking. Do your ears get plugged with quad Triax?
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You mean you aren't ordering your second anytime soon?..

You can isolate the projector from the all/ceiling without much cost if you don't mind DIYing a little.

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yeah Tom you could be very right.. im waiting to read the reviews... atmos theaters are awesome.. that's the avx movie theaters up in Canada with dolby atmos..


im not the type to buy the 1st one off the line .. like to hear what people think.. think the main thing emo fans are excited about is the sq that the xmc 1 may offer
that it could be comparable to the xsp 1 analog pre amp would be a grand slam home run...


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did not know denon had dolby atmos already...


just want to read the reviews..


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Well, from what I heard they won't be including Direc on any shipments for 2(?) months. Supposed to be some type of upgrade down the road. Now I'm wondering how users will calibrate the system? Will there be manual test tones? Users forced to purchase a SPL for this? Sounds crazy when you consider even a $250 AVR has auto calibration features these days. Somehow I see in my future many, many emails with xmc-1 customers trying to get their systems dialed in..

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Well, from what I heard they won't be including Direc on any shipments for 2(?) months. Supposed to be some type of upgrade down the road. Now I'm wondering how users will calibrate the system? Will there be manual test tones? Users forced to purchase a SPL for this? Sounds crazy when you consider even a $250 AVR has auto calibration features these days. Somehow I see in my future many, many emails with xmc-1 customers trying to get their systems dialed in..

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I'm actually pretty excited after reading about Dirac live. The ability to dial in your room curve is something I've wanted to do with Audyssey, but I don't have to ability to buy a version of Audyssey Pro (plus the US versions of Onkyo's AVRs aren't pro ready).

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The emo xmc1 is the biggest joke going. I can't beleive people would still be willing to purchase that thing after the continuous lies by the owner no less
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This guy obviously lost his mind long ago. 4 Triax's in that size room? Just leave him be there is no hope for him.
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