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I struggled with placement and gain problems for weeks (lack of knowledge) in private. Chatted with Tom a few times and found the sweet spot. Since I mastered the placement, set the gains appropriately, and ran Audyssey, I couldn't be happier. I went from "WHERE'S THE BASS" to "Man these things are beasts" in one afternoon.

All of my problems revolved around cancellation and horrible room acoustics. I can't wait to hit the lottery and set up four of these babies. LOL
What happened man? Thought it was already settled you were getting two more??

I might try stacking mine one of these days to see what effect that has, and if I like it, order two more!
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No I have not, I haven't even downloaded it yet, I have been in a slump and don't feel like doing anything. My four subs probably have less then 20 hours of use on them, seriously, maybe less. Right now I feel like selling everything and starting all over again.
If you seriously dump these please let me know, I'd be happy to take at least two of them off your hands
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Yes, minus the sub crawl since you've already determined where you're gonna keep the subs.



I don't think it would make much difference if they were on their sides or not...but if you want to, it certainly won't hurt.
Alan I was also told to gain match as you would normally use the sub, down firing as that's how they were designed. Anyway I just wanted to say I'm going to gain match each sub soon. Today I got some fire under my a## and made sure all four stacked subs were at least level matched at the MLP and checked phase as well. Any way I decided to try something and just used the the two bottom subs, gain knobs are all pretty similar at about 1:30. I have several demo discs that I purchased with 2 to 3 minute heavy bass movie scenes and fired the bottom two subs up and played the disc, I was at -10 on the MV and the two subs were making my shirt sleeves flap and could feel the pressure in my chest, the house I thought I heard one of the walls crack, I had a SPL meter setup about 14' away and was getting peaks of 120dB, that;s with the speakers connected as well but they are cheap and xover is set high so much of what the SPL meter was reading was just the two bottom subs. So now I turned on all four (the top two) and played the same content, no only was my shirt and pant legs flapping I felt like some one was pounding on my chest, seriously, the meter was all over the place, I don't know how much more output I was getting with all four banging away but it was scary at -10, I may of had heart failure at reference 0. So just the response I got from duals was extraordinary, I'm thinking of gain matching all four leaving the two up front in the L&R corners and putting the other two besides (on either side) of my MLP as end tables. I've read a lot about gain matching identical subs and this seems like the only way to go. Makes for placing them in your room a lot easier from what I understand as long as each sub is measured in the exact same spot (center of room) away from boundaries and mic is the same distance relative to each sub and the SPL meter reads the exact same for each sub.
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All good info. Not sure why I spaced on running Audy after adjusting gain on sw's. Thanks
That's very common actually. Another reason to rerun calibration is if we move a subwoofer. A lot of times folks will go from a non-corner placement to corner and then insist "corner placement = boomy bass" The real issue is that corner loading increased the efficiency of the system(sub) so it is now WAY hot on the calibration..

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Even watching regular tv shows (Cut-throat kitchen, on Food Network), the sound is incredibly full with the 2 XV's vs the Daytons. This is at low levels, nighttime viewing. They aren't overwhelming or obnoxious and the extension and again, the richness these subs have at low levels is truly impressive. I am really starting to like these a lot. Top notch product. Can't wait to get them fully dialed in.
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Even watching regular tv shows (Cut-throat kitchen, on Food Network), the sound is incredibly full with the 2 XV's vs the Daytons. This is at low levels, nighttime viewing. They aren't overwhelming or obnoxious and the extension and again, the richness these subs have at low levels is truly impressive. I am really starting to like these a lot. Top notch product. Can't wait to get them fully dialed in.
I've also noticed how well the XV15se subs play at low volumes too. I still look forward to sitting and listening to them every day. They never get old.
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I just ordered the XV15se I currently have an SVS PC12 Plus. I may have an SVS PC12 Plus for sale!!!

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FOUR XV15SEs

Hello Guys, I'm thinking of selling two or all four of my XV15SEs, they are a month and half old with less than 15 hours on them. I thought I would throw this out here before I listed them. I'm willing to sell 1 at a time, duals or all four. Let me know.
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Hello Guys, I'm thinking of selling two or all four of my XV15SEs, they are a month and half old with less than 15 hours on them. I thought I would throw this out here before I listed them. I'm willing to sell 1 at a time, duals or all four. Let me know.
Cheers Jeff
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Alan I was also told to gain match as you would normally use the sub, down firing as that's how they were designed. Anyway I just wanted to say I'm going to gain match each sub soon. Today I got some fire under my a## and made sure all four stacked subs were at least level matched at the MLP and checked phase as well. Any way I decided to try something and just used the the two bottom subs, gain knobs are all pretty similar at about 1:30. I have several demo discs that I purchased with 2 to 3 minute heavy bass movie scenes and fired the bottom two subs up and played the disc, I was at -10 on the MV and the two subs were making my shirt sleeves flap and could feel the pressure in my chest, the house I thought I heard one of the walls crack, I had a SPL meter setup about 14' away and was getting peaks of 120dB, that;s with the speakers connected as well but they are cheap and xover is set high so much of what the SPL meter was reading was just the two bottom subs. So now I turned on all four (the top two) and played the same content, no only was my shirt and pant legs flapping I felt like some one was pounding on my chest, seriously, the meter was all over the place, I don't know how much more output I was getting with all four banging away but it was scary at -10, I may of had heart failure at reference 0. So just the response I got from duals was extraordinary, I'm thinking of gain matching all four leaving the two up front in the L&R corners and putting the other two besides (on either side) of my MLP as end tables. I've read a lot about gain matching identical subs and this seems like the only way to go. Makes for placing them in your room a lot easier from what I understand as long as each sub is measured in the exact same spot (center of room) away from boundaries and mic is the same distance relative to each sub and the SPL meter reads the exact same for each sub.
Cheers Jeff
After this, you post this??

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Hello Guys, I'm thinking of selling two or all four of my XV15SEs, they are a month and half old with less than 15 hours on them. I thought I would throw this out here before I listed them. I'm willing to sell 1 at a time, duals or all four. Let me know.
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Just posted in the classifieds. I too am selling my 2 XV-15's also. One original and one se. Wanting to get an xs30se. Should be moving in the next 6 months or so and will have a much smaller room than I do now.

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After this, you post this??




I think Jeff is attempting to own every PSA product ever sold
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I think Jeff is attempting to own every PSA product ever sold
Yup...I think only the XV30F SE....still eludes him.

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Hello Guys, I'm thinking of selling two or all four of my XV15SEs, they are a month and half old with less than 15 hours on them. I thought I would throw this out here before I listed them. I'm willing to sell 1 at a time, duals or all four. Let me know.
Cheers Jeff


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Hello Guys, I'm thinking of selling two or all four of my XV15SEs, they are a month and half old with less than 15 hours on them. I thought I would throw this out here before I listed them. I'm willing to sell 1 at a time, duals or all four. Let me know.
Cheers Jeff

Man, I wish I had space in my living room for another XV15 or I'd be all over that.
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FOUR XV15SEs

Sorry to all who PM'd me about the four XV15SEs but Tom and Jim and I have worked out a deal on something, sorry I can't reveal what I'm doing but again I apologize to all who responded by PM. I think I can finally relax and enjoy, I just need to stay on PSA's back about my signature edition speakers.
Cheers Jeff SORRY
PS: TOM & JIM ARE GREAT PEOPLE
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Sorry to all who PM'd me about the four XV15SEs but Tom and Jim and I have worked out a deal on something, sorry I can't reveal what I'm doing but again I apologize to all who responded by PM. I think I can finally relax and enjoy, I just need to stay on PSA's back about my signature edition speakers.
Cheers Jeff SORRY
PS: TOM & JIM ARE GREAT PEOPLE
Indeed they are! Glad you got it all worked out!
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Sorry to all who PM'd me about the four XV15SEs but Tom and Jim and I have worked out a deal on something, sorry I can't reveal what I'm doing but again I apologize to all who responded by PM. I think I can finally relax and enjoy, I just need to stay on PSA's back about my signature edition speakers.
Cheers Jeff SORRY
PS: TOM & JIM ARE GREAT PEOPLE
Hey Tom. PM me please. I'd like to do an even stevens trade for my two XV-15se subs for four Triaxs. Black is okay. No reason for me to get greedy or anything... Thanks in advance.

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Hey Tom. PM me please. I'd like to do an even stevens trade for my two XV-15se subs for four Triaxs. Black is okay. No reason for me to get greedy or anything... Thanks in advance.
Ha! I would settle for a trade up program when (wishful thinking) they release a big ported model on the PRISM line
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Official Power Sound Audio Thread

Wow!! I ordered the XV15se at 10:30 Monday morning and it's here at 10am Tuesday morning [emoji79][emoji79][emoji79] Woah....picture of the driver and wife's arm being swallowed by the massive port!! Just came home from work,I'll set it up later today and compare it to my Pc12 plus

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^^^^ Congrats! Mines on the truck out for delivery

Gonna be fun! (I think) I got a long enough cable to place it in the opposite corner ( rear of the room) with the DXD12012 up front, I'm going to level match ( no budget left for mic for REW ) listen a bit and then some more! and run Auydyssey and hear what happens.
the real kicker behind my diabolical plan is a Duo stack of KK up front and adding a second XS15se behind the main listening position for a slightly modified Geddes setup using REW of course
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Wow!! I ordered the XV15se at 10:30 Monday morning and it's here at 10am Tuesday morning.

Woah....picture of the driver and wife's arm being swallowed by the massive port!! Just came home from work,I'll set it up later today and compare it to my Pc12 plus
Congrats man! Look forward to hearing your impressions, particularly in comparison to the pc12+.
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Very nice!!! I just woke up because I rcvd a phone call from a fellow enthusiast that he would indeed like to purchase my SVS PC12 plus that I auditioned for him last night! I just set up XV15 se using the calibration settings from the plus and I'll tell ya I can't believe this thing is only $899!!! Tom said I should put in my favorite music first so I popped in The History of The Eagles blu and this this thing is extremely tight and accurate for a ported sub! I used a splitter for the left and right inputs. I have the gain set to 1 o'clock. I'm now going to give the pc 12 a listen. Hopefully this isn't too disjointed, I'm typing on my phone.

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Time to open it now, if this is your first PSA sub, place box on it's side and cut the tape on the bottom of box and fold out the bottom flaps, turn back upright and pull the whole box right off. I hope I didn't insult your intelligence by explaining box removal, some people don't know to do that and try to lift sub out and break their backs. I just happen to have 11 experiences doing this with PSA subs.
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Time to open it now, if this is your first PSA sub, place box on it's side and cut the tape on the bottom of box and fold out the bottom flaps, turn back upright and pull the whole box right off. I hope I didn't insult your intelligence by explaining box removal, some people don't know to do that and try to lift sub out and break their backs. I just happen to have 11 experiences doing this with PSA subs.
Cheers Jeff

Ah...so that is what you aspired to do...become the resident expert at unpacking and re-packing PSA subs...Jk...I just wonder what little deal is up your sleeve...


Although....I do have a good idea.....
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Time to open it now, if this is your first PSA sub, place box on it's side and cut the tape on the bottom of box and fold out the bottom flaps, turn back upright and pull the whole box right off. I hope I didn't insult your intelligence by explaining box removal, some people don't know to do that and try to lift sub out and break their backs. I just happen to have 11 experiences doing this with PSA subs.
Cheers Jeff
Very kind gesture indeed but its far to late for my back
My first impressions of the XS15se are very very favorable but more on that later as I now have to get to the medicine cabinet and get ready to Audyseey my first dual sub venture I've done the ground work sub crawl and such and will chime later on some real impressions

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I just ordered the XV15se I currently have an SVS PC12 Plus. I may have an SVS PC12 Plus for sale!!!
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And a quick addition to ahblaza's suggestions is before turning the box upright place a flipped floor mat with soft side down (for hardwood floor) or a thick cardboard (for carpet floor). This will make the subs glide on the floor with little effort and greatly help in moving the subs across your house/room. I did this with 5 xs30se 's (2 were replaced) without breaking my back.
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Time to open it now, if this is your first PSA sub, place box on it's side and cut the tape on the bottom of box and fold out the bottom flaps, turn back upright and pull the whole box right off. I hope I didn't insult your intelligence by explaining box removal, some people don't know to do that and try to lift sub out and break their backs. I just happen to have 11 experiences doing this with PSA subs.
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