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^^^^I have two xv15se in a 6k cu ft room and it's nothing short of devastating for movie LFE imo. With such a small room I can't imagine one not being amazing, especially of the plan is to get a second eventually.
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You running the dxd and xv together?
No sir! I'm running the XS15se with the DXD which is sealed, its was for smoothing and curiosity but I really loved the results , you already know the dxd is incredibly accurate & fast with very low distortion, this says a lot about the updated PSA subs (Se). I plan on adding a second DXD as well and possibly an additional XS15se and will be done with bass
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No sir! I'm running the XS15se with the DXD which is sealed, its was for smoothing and curiosity but I really loved the results , you already know the dxd is incredibly accurate & fast with very low distortion, this says a lot about the updated PSA subs (Se). I plan on adding a second DXD as well and possibly an additional XS15se and will be done with bass
That was what I meant. Not sure why you said no. Post some REW results if you can of each sub alone, and working with each other


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have to say Denon/Audyssey Sub EQ does a great job of blending my XS15se and XV15. Watched War of the Worlds, Cloverfield and Tron. Really pleased. I have a bit more time to test, but I think I like this combo. While dual XV's are tempting, I think this may be the winner for my room (approx. 3k cuft).

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That was what I meant. Not sure why you said no. Post some REW results if you can of each sub alone, and working with each other
He said "no sir" because you mentioned XV15, which he does not have...he has a XS15 which should blend well with the dxd2012.
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No sir! I'm running the XS15se with the DXD which is sealed, its was for smoothing and curiosity but I really loved the results , you already know the dxd is incredibly accurate & fast with very low distortion, this says a lot about the updated PSA subs (Se). I plan on adding a second DXD as well and possibly an additional XS15se and will be done with bass
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He said "no sir" because you mentioned XV15, which he does not have...he has a XS15 which should blend well with the dxd2012.
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Hey Guys, just a quick update, I received my subs two days ago and the four XV15SEs will be gone tomorrow, I'll just say for now that I decided to go with sealed, not ready to disclose how many but I got more than one XS30SE and will give these a good chance as I had them when they first came out but not for long as I sent them back (traded) for a Cordovan Triax months before I received my Triax, so I didn't have much time with them. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind, I have dual sub pre-outs on my receiver, I know they are just connected as one output and not independent of each other so say if I have only two subs is there any benefit using one output with Y splitter or just using one output per each sub? Second question, I know the best location for two subs is in each front corner in my LR, I'm hoping those that may have XS30SEs or others that just know more than me (probably most ) can help me out with driver orientation with dual opposed subs. Option 1 place the XS30 sort of catty corner with one driver firing into front wall and other into side or long wall, option 2, one driver into front wall (short) and the other into room, OK last option 3, one driver into side or long wall and other towards the opposite side wall, in other words firing at the other sub in the opposite corner. I know what you're going to say, try them all and see what sounds best. I would like someone's opinion that has used or tried one of these 3 options or none of them and try something else. If what I have does not satisfy me this time I'm just going to get dual Triaxs or commit myself to the nearest mental hospital, seriously.
PS: Tom posted on HTS to check the site in the nest week or so for some exiting new news can't wait. TIA Guys.
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Hey Guys, just a quick update, I received my subs two days ago and the four XV15SEs will be gone tomorrow, I'll just say for now that I decided to go with sealed, not ready to disclose how many but I got more than one XS30SE and will give these a good chance as I had them when they first came out but not for long as I sent them back (traded) for a Cordovan Triax months before I received my Triax, so I didn't have much time with them. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind, I have dual sub pre-outs on my receiver, I know they are just connected as one output and not independent of each other so say if I have only two subs is there any benefit using one output with Y splitter or just using one output per each sub? Second question, I know the best location for two subs is in each front corner in my LR, I'm hoping those that may have XS30SEs or others that just know more than me (probably most ) can help me out with driver orientation with dual opposed subs. Option 1 place the XS30 sort of catty corner with one driver firing into front wall and other into side or long wall, option 2, one driver into front wall (short) and the other into room, OK last option 3, one driver into side or long wall and other towards the opposite side wall, in other words firing at the other sub in the opposite corner. I know what you're going to say, try them all and see what sounds best. I would like someone's opinion that has used or tried one of these 3 options or none of them and try something else. If what I have does not satisfy me this time I'm just going to get dual Triaxs or commit myself to the nearest mental hospital, seriously.
PS: Tom posted on HTS to check the site in the nest week or so for some exiting new news can't wait. TIA Guys.
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I see DIY in your future dude. Maybe before the Triaxs....maybe after....but it will happen.
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That was what I meant. Not sure why you said no. Post some REW results if you can of each sub alone, and working with each other


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Hey Guys, just a quick update, I received my subs two days ago and the four XV15SEs will be gone tomorrow, I'll just say for now that I decided to go with sealed, not ready to disclose how many but I got more than one XS30SE and will give these a good chance as I had them when they first came out but not for long as I sent them back (traded) for a Cordovan Triax months before I received my Triax, so I didn't have much time with them. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind, I have dual sub pre-outs on my receiver, I know they are just connected as one output and not independent of each other so say if I have only two subs is there any benefit using one output with Y splitter or just using one output per each sub? Second question, I know the best location for two subs is in each front corner in my LR, I'm hoping those that may have XS30SEs or others that just know more than me (probably most ) can help me out with driver orientation with dual opposed subs. Option 1 place the XS30 sort of catty corner with one driver firing into front wall and other into side or long wall, option 2, one driver into front wall (short) and the other into room, OK last option 3, one driver into side or long wall and other towards the opposite side wall, in other words firing at the other sub in the opposite corner. I know what you're going to say, try them all and see what sounds best. I would like someone's opinion that has used or tried one of these 3 options or none of them and try something else. If what I have does not satisfy me this time I'm just going to get dual Triaxs or commit myself to the nearest mental hospital, seriously.
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You are never going to be satisfied if you do not take the time and properly setup the subs. I am not sure how 4 XV15se could not be anything short of amazing once properly integrated. Anyways hopefully you find what you are looking for.
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^^ Your room size is a bit over 1,800 cu. ft (medium size room), however, it is wide open to another room and since a sub fills that entire open space, you probably have 3,000 cu. ft. or over (close to a large size room). It's no surprise that the PL-200 couldn't fill that volume.

PSA upgraded the driver to their Power-X lineup and reworked the DSP giving the amplifier more wattage. This was NOT a minor update. The precision advantage of the "se" drivers are easily noticeable for all who have made the switch, while the price increase was only $100, which is minimal for the performance increase.

Getting one sub now with the plan of another when funds are available is a wise move. I will assume that you found the right location of your BIC by doing the subwoofer crawl. I will also assume that at your listening position you got good, even response (no peaks or valleys). If that is correct, then you already know where to place the PSA sub when you get it. Who knows? It may be the only sub you'll need.

You are correct, it is not a good idea to mix and match a budget sub with a high performance sub. As far as which PSA to get, I'd talk to Tom Vodhanel at PSA. But by the size of your combined rooms, I'd say you are looking at the ported XV15se.
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^^^^I have two xv15se in a 6k cu ft room and it's nothing short of devastating for movie LFE imo. With such a small room I can't imagine one not being amazing, especially of the plan is to get a second eventually.



Thanks guys appreciate the input...not sure how to get rid of the pl-200..

I did talk to Tom once.. like I said not much of an audiophile ... but do have the interest of getting a good HT build...I am just going to move into this new home.. though I was not able to get a closed HT room for my self.. I will just be making this second living room cum HT room which is up stairs..

I was just in the impression of getting XS30se not sure why.. and Tom was also saying that would do wonders in the room.. but I have been using ported subs since few years and like them.. never used a sealed sub... over here in this thread mostly I have seen people go for the ported subslike the XS15se or the previous model X*15* and just adding more subs based on their requirement or out of just adding more db's ..

XS15se would save me a lot up front and later be able to add another soon..

Does XS15se provide the thump and thud in movies ? this only has one driver right compared to XS30se which has 2 drivers.. I think may be that was the reason I was going for it.. has 2 drivers.. but later came to know it was sealed sub... but Tom was saying.. sealed subs do a good job too compared to ported... if I remember correctly from the chat...
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^^^My room is 20x21x8 with openings to the kitchen and hall way and both of my subs are sealed, also if your going for the XS15se note that its a sealed sub! I belive your thinking of the XV15se which is ported and few dollars more.
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^^ yes sorry ..was referring to xv15se..which sealed subs do you have...did uou any any other psa sealed or ported subs before..if this was an upgrade..and if possible any comparision or feedback that you can provide would be appreciated...thanks
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^^ yes sorry ..was referring to xv15se..which sealed subs do you have...did uou any any other psa sealed or ported subs before..if this was an upgrade..and if possible any comparision or feedback that you can provide would be appreciated...thanks
I figured you knew , I just had to be sure in case you do purchase and a sealed sub show up This was my first PSA sub its the XS15se and I'm a fan of sealed for my own reasons and think posted subs are just fine. I was in need of a second sub for smoothing out the room and would also welcome an spl increase across the board and something that would suit the location as I only have 2 to play with for optimal results. My other sub is a Ken Kresiel DXD12012 which is also a sealed design with a dual 12' drivers and about 750 watts on tap, it resides in the front right corner and is designed for co-location via a stacking method ( which can also be done with most subs) It's a very accurate sounding sub and lightning fast on transients. I'm a firm believer in bass is bass! either a sub will cut it or it wont and has no place in my setup it must play the lower, mid and upper registers cleanly period! having said that,IMHO the DXD is the best I've ever heard at doing so. Now here's the kicker! I had heard some of the guys posting on the SE update to some of the PSA subs and my got my attention when I saw what driver they where now using, the post on musicality and speed was all I needed to know ( think Seaton and read a few of the comments regarding its performance) as that driver is based off of a very well known platform and from what I understand PSA did there do diligence and got it just like the wanted it. In short Its an incredible achievement if it can satisfy the persnickety requirements of this music and movie lover and play right along with my DXD

Keep in mind the price , the 45 day trial ( free shipping both ways) and if the XS30se was your first choice and in your budget, just do it! that's so your not wondering what could have been, if not the XS15se or XV15se will get the job done with a second down the road when budget allows !


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Thanks guys appreciate the input...not sure how to get rid of the pl-200..

I did talk to Tom once.. like I said not much of an audiophile ... but do have the interest of getting a good HT build...I am just going to move into this new home.. though I was not able to get a closed HT room for my self.. I will just be making this second living room cum HT room which is up stairs..

I was just in the impression of getting XS30se not sure why.. and Tom was also saying that would do wonders in the room.. but I have been using ported subs since few years and like them.. never used a sealed sub... over here in this thread mostly I have seen people go for the ported subslike the XS15se or the previous model X*15* and just adding more subs based on their requirement or out of just adding more db's ..

XS15se would save me a lot up front and later be able to add another soon..

Does XS15se provide the thump and thud in movies ? this only has one driver right compared to XS30se which has 2 drivers.. I think may be that was the reason I was going for it.. has 2 drivers.. but later came to know it was sealed sub... but Tom was saying.. sealed subs do a good job too compared to ported... if I remember correctly from the chat...
The reason I suggested the XV15se and didn't mention the XS30se was because of price only. The XS30se is an amazing sealed sub for both music and movie LFE. Do I own it? No. I own the original XS30, and it's an amazing LFE sub and fills my 3,400 cu. ft. area (which is rather open, btw) with utter ease. I get an abundance of tactile feel and that sub sits on laminate flooring over a concrete slab. And I've had to silence dozens of rattles throughout many rooms (but will never get them all -- sometimes I feel the walls may crack). The "se" version of the XS30, retains most, if not all, of that tactile feel while reproducing music that is more precise than the original, and can compete with some of the best subs around in that area, as BillyP can attest (he's had the SVS SB13-Ultra and the PSA XS30 and XS30se in his home).

Many here have a logical preference for ported designs. I have a preference for the sealed design. Sealed designs are quite a bit smaller than ported designs (although the XS30se is pretty darn big), and I don't have to worry about port chuffing if I happen to over drive the sub … uh … unintentionally, of course . While sealed designs won't have the output of their ported brothers at the tuning frequency, they can actually have more extension as long as the room isn't too large. Even if you went with PSA's least expensive sub, the XS15se (sealed design), it should provide you with a flat-out amazing audio experience (as audiofan can, and did, attest).

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So I don't know if I should post this here or not but I figure what the hell. I'm sure a lot of your long time PSA posters will remember fellow forum member Steve nn. He would post here quite often along with a bunch of the diy threads. He didn't own a PSA but had been a long time customer of Tom's since his SVS days. I had a lot of fun back and forth with Steve over posts and pm's, and I know basshead81 did too.


Anyways I haven't see him post since the beginning of April and I hadn't received any pm's from him as well which was a little dis-concerning because we would message a few times a week. So last week in the JTR thread I made a comment in one of my posts that when a regular poster doesn't post for a while you almost start to worry a little bit that something might have happened to them. Someone saw my comment about that post where I had mentioned that I haven't heard from Steve in a while and got back to me today with some sad news.


I don't know the details and I'm sure the forum member that reached out to me does either, but sadly it looks like Steve has passed away. I was really bummed out to get this pm today but was extremely grateful that this forum member reached out too me. I guess the forum member lived close to Steve and actually saw a local craigslist add with a bunch of HT stuff for sale, the forum member did a bunch of research and everything that was coming up for sale was the exact same stuff the Steve had owned, when he talked the guy selling it he had said that it belonged to his uncle Steve that had just passed away. So it wasn't officially confirmed but it would just be way too much of a coincident for it not to be the same Steve. Steve and I had become pretty good buddies over AVS, it's funny I had never met him in person but just chatted over pm's. We'd exchanged photo's of our families and talked about a great deal of things outside of just AVS, I always said that one day I had hoped to meet him in person and always said if he was even out my way that he was more then welcome to stay at my place or just come visit. He had always said the same too me. I would always tease him about being an old man....lol well older then me, as I'm 37 with a young family and he's had older kids.


Its funny that we sit behind our monitors and post on this hobby forum board and over time you really start to almost make friendships with people that you've probably never met before, and if you're lucky enough too you do get to meet some of your local guys and make new friendships. Anyways I just thought I should post and say something in one of the threads that he posted quite often in. Like I said I'm pretty bummed out and now I miss a buddy.
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Thanks for sharing this, jbrown. If true, it is indeed a very sad day. Steve was a breath of fresh air. I enjoyed his posts throughout AVS and he seemed to me to be a kind and generous person. I too was wondering why I hadn't seen any of his posts. I will sorely miss him and his marvelous sense of humor
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So I don't know if I should post this here or not but I figure what the hell. I'm sure a lot of your long time PSA posters will remember fellow forum member Steve nn. He would post here quite often along with a bunch of the diy threads. He didn't own a PSA but had been a long time customer of Tom's since his SVS days. I had a lot of fun back and forth with Steve over posts and pm's, and I know basshead81 did too.


Anyways I haven't see him post since the beginning of April and I hadn't received any pm's from him as well which was a little dis-concerning because we would message a few times a week. So last week in the JTR thread I made a comment in one of my posts that when a regular poster doesn't post for a while you almost start to worry a little bit that something might have happened to them. Someone saw my comment about that post where I had mentioned that I haven't heard from Steve in a while and got back to me today with some sad news.


I don't know the details and I'm sure the forum member that reached out to me does either, but sadly it looks like Steve has passed away. I was really bummed out to get this pm today but was extremely grateful that this forum member reached out too me. I guess the forum member lived close to Steve and actually saw a local craigslist add with a bunch of HT stuff for sale, the forum member did a bunch of research and everything that was coming up for sale was the exact same stuff the Steve had owned, when he talked the guy selling it he had said that it belonged to his uncle Steve that had just passed away. So it wasn't officially confirmed but it would just be way too much of a coincident for it not to be the same Steve. Steve and I had become pretty good buddies over AVS, it's funny I had never met him in person but just chatted over pm's. We'd exchanged photo's of our families and talked about a great deal of things outside of just AVS, I always said that one day I had hoped to meet him in person and always said if he was even out my way that he was more then welcome to stay at my place or just come visit. He had always said the same too me. I would always tease him about being an old man....lol well older then me, as I'm 37 with a young family and he's had older kids.


Its funny that we sit behind our monitors and post on this hobby forum board and over time you really start to almost make friendships with people that you've probably never met before, and if you're lucky enough too you do get to meet some of your local guys and make new friendships. Anyways I just thought I should post and say something in one of the threads that he posted quite often in. Like I said I'm pretty bummed out and now I miss a buddy.
I'm really sorry to hear that JB, lets all watch a movie or listen to some music in honor of Steve.
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^^^^Thank you for sharing. It sounds like he was an awesome guy and will be missed by many.

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Anyone know if the PSA subs (original XS15 in particular) have a built in HPF?? If so, where is it set and what slope?
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After a weekend of frustration, I'm afraid the PSA XV15se just isn't working for my situation. My room is 11'-6" wide and 26' long. Within that rectangle, I'm basically using half the room for home theater. TV/receiver is on the long wall, but off center to one side. Main listening area is on the opposite wall, straight across from it. Best spot for sub is in the corner on the listening area side, about 6-7 feet away from the couch. There is a leather chair in that corner, directly in front of the sub.

With the XV15se, calibrating with Audyssey (Onkyo TX-NR509), the sub is very weak when run at half gain, which I've read is where you should always start calibration. I bumped up the level within the receiver 6db and the center 3db. With dynamic EQ off, the sub is still really weak for movies. With it on it's still weak for movies. What it boils down to is if I turn the sub gain up to around 3 o'colck and run dynamic EQ, the movies sound really good. If I run this same setting with music, it's WAY too much bass. With dynamic EQ off, I have to turn the sub gain way up and boost it within the receiver settings. as well for movies. This is overkill with music.

What's more odd is my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus I run at 12 o'clock and just run Audyssey, then boost up the receiver level some and it's done. Without dynamic EQ I get good bass response in both music and movies. I don't understand how a more powerful sub like the XV15se can't be balanced. Any ideas?
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After a weekend of frustration, I'm afraid the PSA XV15se just isn't working for my situation. My room is 11'-6" wide and 26' long. Within that rectangle, I'm basically using half the room for home theater. TV/receiver is on the long wall, but off center to one side. Main listening area is on the opposite wall, straight across from it. Best spot for sub is in the corner on the listening area side, about 6-7 feet away from the couch. There is a leather chair in that corner, directly in front of the sub.

With the XV15se, calibrating with Audyssey (Onkyo TX-NR509), the sub is very weak when run at half gain, which I've read is where you should always start calibration. I bumped up the level within the receiver 6db and the center 3db. With dynamic EQ off, the sub is still really weak for movies. With it on it's still weak for movies. What it boils down to is if I turn the sub gain up to around 3 o'colck and run dynamic EQ, the movies sound really good. If I run this same setting with music, it's WAY too much bass. With dynamic EQ off, I have to turn the sub gain way up and boost it within the receiver settings. as well for movies. This is overkill with music.

What's more odd is my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus I run at 12 o'clock and just run Audyssey, then boost up the receiver level some and it's done. Without dynamic EQ I get good bass response in both music and movies. I don't understand how a more powerful sub like the XV15se can't be balanced. Any ideas?
Where did Audyssey set your sub trim before you boosted it 6db? With the sub gain at 12:00 I'm guessing it would be around "0db" or higher.

Where are your crossovers set?

Is the bass good anywhere in the room? You may be sitting in a null.

Do you have the ability to measure your response? Have and SPL meter?

Did you do the sub crawl?

Are you listening to music and movies from the same source?
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Set the sub gain to 2:00 and rerun audyssey. You should of simply asked for advice before spending all weekend with improper calibration. I have yet to see anybody recomend 12:00 for the gain setting on a Power X sub. Not all sub amps require the same amp gain, so do not use that to determine if a sub is weak. My little Pinnacle subsonic only needs the gain set at 10:00 but it is knowhere near the level of one of my XV15se. Again start at 2:00, run audyssey and bump the avr sub trim up 5-6db from where audyssey sets it.
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After a weekend of frustration, I'm afraid the PSA XV15se just isn't working for my situation. My room is 11'-6" wide and 26' long. Within that rectangle, I'm basically using half the room for home theater. TV/receiver is on the long wall, but off center to one side. Main listening area is on the opposite wall, straight across from it. Best spot for sub is in the corner on the listening area side, about 6-7 feet away from the couch. There is a leather chair in that corner, directly in front of the sub.

With the XV15se, calibrating with Audyssey (Onkyo TX-NR509), the sub is very weak when run at half gain, which I've read is where you should always start calibration. I bumped up the level within the receiver 6db and the center 3db. With dynamic EQ off, the sub is still really weak for movies. With it on it's still weak for movies. What it boils down to is if I turn the sub gain up to around 3 o'colck and run dynamic EQ, the movies sound really good. If I run this same setting with music, it's WAY too much bass. With dynamic EQ off, I have to turn the sub gain way up and boost it within the receiver settings. as well for movies. This is overkill with music.

What's more odd is my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus I run at 12 o'clock and just run Audyssey, then boost up the receiver level some and it's done. Without dynamic EQ I get good bass response in both music and movies. I don't understand how a more powerful sub like the XV15se can't be balanced. Any ideas?
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Where did Audyssey set your sub trim before you boosted it 6db? With the sub gain at 12:00 I'm guessing it would be around "0db" or higher.

Where are your crossovers set?

Is the bass good anywhere in the room? You may be sitting in a null.

Do you have the ability to measure your response? Have and SPL meter?

Did you do the sub crawl?

Are you listening to music and movies from the same source?
Audyssey had sub level at -5db. I even bumped it up to +5db and it was still weak.

I've been using 70 or 80 for XO. I'm running Infinity Primus P363 fronts and the other 3 are P163.

I've calibrated subs in the past in this room and I'm using the best location possible for the sub.

I don't have an SPL meter.

I did sub crawl a few different times and the current sub location is in the best possible spot.

Movies are played through Blu-Ray player. Music off the receiver, with USB stick.

I've bumped the gain on the sub to 3-4 o'clock, which seems way too hot to me. At this setting movies actually feel like the sub is performing closer to what it should be, but with this same setting the bass in music is EXTREMELY overdone. All this is odd, like I said, because the Outlaw is pretty easy to calibrate and set to where it works great for music and movies. I really don't see why I should either have to run the XV15se either with dynamic EQ, or with the sub cranked up almost all the way without it, at least for movies.
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Alan, funny you would say that as I just converted a 13' X 30' enclosed sun porch (room) to a work shop, all kinds of tools and just finished building my new stands for the PSA speakers. My wife said the same thing today as the 11th sub(s) left the house this morning. I am fascinated with DIY and my sister has more tools than I do and can build anything with wood, she is an industrial arts major, she just finished a huge project in her home all by her self. I have a friend who is a cabinet maker and I can get all of his left over stock, birch, oak and maple. Now that I have my legs back, dual total hip replacement I feel like a new man, old but new . I'm going to relax and enjoy what I have now, who knows next month
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Audyssey had sub level at -5db. I even bumped it up to +5db and it was still weak.

I've been using 70 or 80 for XO. I'm running Infinity Primus P363 fronts and the other 3 are P163.

I've calibrated subs in the past in this room and I'm using the best location possible for the sub.

I don't have an SPL meter.

I did sub crawl a few different times and the current sub location is in the best possible spot.

Movies are played through Blu-Ray player. Music off the receiver, with USB stick.

I've bumped the gain on the sub to 3-4 o'clock, which seems way too hot to me. At this setting movies actually feel like the sub is performing closer to what it should be, but with this same setting the bass in music is EXTREMELY overdone. All this is odd, like I said, because the Outlaw is pretty easy to calibrate and set to where it works great for music and movies. I really don't see why I should either have to run the XV15se either with dynamic EQ, or with the sub cranked up almost all the way without it, at least for movies.
I'm no expert by any means but setting your sub trim level on the + side of 0 is not so good, you at least have to get an SPL meter, even I know that, that XV15SE should be blowing you away, I'm not putting the Outlaw down but I don't think it's near the sub the XV15Se is, just my thoughts. If you can get the Outlaw to play nice I don't know why the 15 is not working for you, there has to be something not right.
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