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I've had real good results measuring one driver at about 88dB, then placed back into position I usually get the target dB out of 72-78dB, works for me. If you don't get the results of 72-78dB, raise or lower the gain on sub until you do. Then of course run Audyssey or what ever you have. Thanks for the heads up with the World War Z scene (grenade), have to get it just for that.
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Thanks for the tip hope to get to it soon. The scene in World War Z is around the 1 hour 5 minute mark and it is the second grenade going off with a shock wave effect. Great demo material.
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Thanks for the tip hope to get to it soon. The scene in World War Z is around the 1 hour 5 minute mark and it is the second grenade going off with a shock wave effect. Great demo material.
You're welcome and thank you my friend.
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And just shortly after that grenade explosion, the helicopter going down and exploding is pretty darn cool to "feel", as well.
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Thanks for the tip hope to get to it soon. The scene in World War Z is around the 1 hour 5 minute mark and it is the second grenade going off with a shock wave effect. Great demo material.

The World War Z grenade is the craziest sweep I've heard yet in a movie. It's well worth experiencing for anyone that has a good sub system out there.
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well I managed to scratch the $ together to order the SE upgrade for my single XV15, maybe next year I can swing duals!
(it hasn't been easy this year with the Mrs. on disability and no longer working)
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well I managed to scratch the $ together to order the SE upgrade for my single XV15, maybe next year I can swing duals!
(it hasn't been easy this year with the Mrs. on disability and no longer working)

Glad to hear HB, I wish you and your misses all the best, I understand disability, have been on it for several years myself, the only way I've been able to do what I do is because of my Father who is a generous elderly man, I take care of him now that he is 85 years old and took care of my Mother as well for two years with Alzheimer's disease. I don't know if this is allowed but God Bless you and the misses, you are in my prayers. Enjoy my friend...........
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That is one of our most basic freedoms brother.

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Amen to that Climber
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Thanks for the tip hope to get to it soon. The scene in World War Z is around the 1 hour 5 minute mark and it is the second grenade going off with a shock wave effect. Great demo material.


its is a great sound scene...
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Thank you my friend for that, we are all brothers when you think about it
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Thanks for the tip hope to get to it soon. The scene in World War Z is around the 1 hour 5 minute mark and it is the second grenade going off with a shock wave effect. Great demo material.
Well I"m picking up World War Z today to see how it sound with my dual XS30SEs, will let you know. Still haven't decided on the third yet, maybe after today (post WWZ) I will decide to get the 3rd
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Hey ahblaza, I recently started a thread looking for placement advice and got a bunch of great tips to help make my multiple subs really sound great. Though you might want to check it out!

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Guys just a heads up PSA is now offering miniDSP products

http://www.powersoundaudio.com/blogs...61-psa-minidsp

http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/accessories
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Hey guys, what plug in do you use with this device and mic, is PSA including a power supply for the mini DSP as well? With this particular unit what can be measured, just subs or all your subs and speakers, excuse my ignorance.
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wow that really cool.... will Tom V be giving out instructions with purchases?
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Hey guys, what plug in do you use with this device and mic, is PSA including a power supply for the mini DSP as well? With this particular unit what can be measured, just subs or all your subs and speakers, excuse my ignorance.
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2.1 advanced revision B.
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So I have been hearing this odd sound when watching TV and Movies the last week or so. It almost sounds like "snow" when you change a old school tv to a station with no programming. I had a hard time pin pointing it because my subs blend so well it actually sounded like the noise was coming from my surround speakers. So 1 by one I turn off each sub and finally the noise goes away. Well it ended up being the sub furthest away from my LP mid wall(talk about no localization lol). I unplugged the Cable from the input and it went away. Then I plugged it into right instead of lfe and it went away then came back. So I powered it off for a few minutes and turned it back on with the cable plugged back into the LFE in and now it sounds fine?
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So I have been hearing this odd sound when watching TV and Movies the last week or so. It almost sounds like "snow" when you change a old school tv to a station with no programming. I had a hard time pin pointing it because my subs blend so well it actually sounded like the noise was coming from my surround speakers. So 1 by one I turn off each sub and finally the noise goes away. Well it ended up being the sub furthest away from my LP mid wall(talk about no localization lol). I unplugged the Cable from the input and it went away. Then I plugged it into right instead of lfe and it went away then came back. So I powered it off for a few minutes and turned it back on with the cable plugged back into the LFE in and now it sounds fine?
Get rid of your old tube TV man...

It may have been a fluke. One way to know if it was your AVR or your sub amp would be to change inputs on the AVR or turn it off and see if the noise remains constant (if it ever happens again). Audio amplifier DSPs, DACs, HDMI DSP boards all have a susceptibility to interference and, at times, can do some weird things when dealing with digital signals. If they get confused by a random string of data, they can sometimes make the noises you mentioned. The odd thing is that it was only one sub. That pretty much eliminates all of the other items in the chain except for the cable and the sub itself.
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So I have been hearing this odd sound when watching TV and Movies the last week or so. It almost sounds like "snow" when you change a old school tv to a station with no programming. I had a hard time pin pointing it because my subs blend so well it actually sounded like the noise was coming from my surround speakers. So 1 by one I turn off each sub and finally the noise goes away. Well it ended up being the sub furthest away from my LP mid wall(talk about no localization lol). I unplugged the Cable from the input and it went away. Then I plugged it into right instead of lfe and it went away then came back. So I powered it off for a few minutes and turned it back on with the cable plugged back into the LFE in and now it sounds fine?
First thing I'd suspect is the cable and/or splitter. You don't currently have your MiniDSP in the chain, right?
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First thing I'd suspect is the cable and/or splitter. You don't currently have your MiniDSP in the chain, right?
No mini dsp in the chain. The other sub does not do it and it is running off the same wireless device and splitter. Only thing it might be is the cable from the y to the sub. However I Fired it up this morning and everything was fine lol.
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...it is running off the same wireless device and splitter. Only thing it might be is the cable from the y to the sub.
I would guess that the wireless device received a weak or corrupted signal. That or the wireless converter circuitry probably got "confused" with the wireless digital signal.

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No mini dsp in the chain. The other sub does not do it and it is running off the same wireless device and splitter. Only thing it might be is the cable from the y to the sub. However I Fired it up this morning and everything was fine lol.
BH, Jim said that he would be willing to help as much as possible with the miniDSP and UMIK + REW, but I know how experienced you are my friend so I hope you don't mind a ton of PM's concerning the subject matter, maybe phone calls as well. Especially when I get my new speakers. My laptop died today so I need to get a new one, I just wanted to know since my desktop is in the same area as my setup if I could move it right behind the MLP (temporary) to run the REW program and use the miniDSP and UMIK, yes or no? Plug in 2.1 advanced revision B, correct? I think I still have a PM from you with all the accessories I need to go with this measuring system, cables and adapters etc. TIA
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BH, I'm sorry I got you confused with bear 123, we PM'd a lot about this REW and miniDSP and UMIK and all accessories, so I'll just add him to list as well whom I will be driving crazy with all this measuring stuff. I'm telling you both up front I know nothing about any of this, I have been reading a lot, I think I know what to download first and so forth, I THINK. I'm not buying anything until I at least get REW downloaded and any programs I need to get started. That in it's self is going to be a chore, I'm that inexperienced with programs and downloading stuff, I'm not ashamed to admit it, so I expect you guys to be very considerate of that fact and don't laugh at my stupid questions which will be many
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OK everybody, I was considering moving from my dual XS30s to a FV15HP. I felt I was missing that hard hitting chest thump. I was convinced by several people, basshead was one of them, to buy a UMIK and use REW. So I did that first and here is what I got. I don't even know how to export a graph so here are some pics. There is a link of my HT in my sig block.


This was done from basically calibrating the SPL in REW and then hitting measure. My receiver was set on -20.


So, where do I go from here?

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P.S. I will be out for about the next hour, of all nights for my UMIK to come in, it's the same day my mother in law flew in for my daughters bridal shower and I have to pick her up. Any pointers to try when I come back would be great.

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OK everybody, I was considering moving from my dual XS30s to a FV15HP. I felt I was missing that hard hitting chest thump. I was convinced by several people, basshead was one of them, to buy a UMIK and use REW. So I did that first and here is what I got. I don't even know how to export a graph so here are some pics. There is a link of my HT in my sig block.


This was done from basically calibrating the SPL in REW and then hitting measure. My receiver was set on -20.


So, where do I go from here?

Thanks,
Looks like you are defiantly missing bass in the 60-90hz region.

Can you move the subs at all?

Did you try the Audyssey sub distance tweak?

I don't think this has anything to do with the sub, but everything to do with your room/placement.
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OK everybody, I was considering moving from my dual XS30s to a FV15HP. I felt I was missing that hard hitting chest thump. I was convinced by several people, basshead was one of them, to buy a UMIK and use REW. So I did that first and here is what I got. I don't even know how to export a graph so here are some pics. There is a link of my HT in my sig block.


This was done from basically calibrating the SPL in REW and then hitting measure. My receiver was set on -20.


So, where do I go from here?

Thanks,
Lowell, did you read the awesome Users Guide?

To export a screenshot of the graph just click on the little icon in the upper left that looks like a camera and says "Capture".

We need to see more than your waterfall graphs. I suggest you read the guide, take some more measurements and post them up with the correct settings. Then we'll be able to help you better.
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The large dip from 65Hz to 100Hz is preventing that hard hitting chest thump.

Are you measuring just the subwoofers or are the mains also on? You either have a large room induced null or the subs are out of phase with the mains. If the mains were running, try rotating the phase control 180deg from where they are now.

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OK everybody, I was considering moving from my dual XS30s to a FV15HP. I felt I was missing that hard hitting chest thump. I was convinced by several people, basshead was one of them, to buy a UMIK and use REW. So I did that first and here is what I got. I don't even know how to export a graph so here are some pics. There is a link of my HT in my sig block.


This was done from basically calibrating the SPL in REW and then hitting measure. My receiver was set on -20.


So, where do I go from here?

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Looks like the Cumberland Gap...
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Lowell, did you read the awesome Users Guide?

To export a screenshot of the graph just click on the little icon in the upper left that looks like a camera and says "Capture".

We need to see more than your waterfall graphs. I suggest you read the guide, take some more measurements and post them up with the correct settings. Then we'll be able to help you better.

I am guy, of course I didn't read the guide. OK, I will read it.

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