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Old 08-25-2014, 09:22 PM
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Just keep in mind Fatty that with your equidistant subs, you shouldn't have to adjust phase at all. If you get higher SPL by adjusting phase on one of your subs (with only the subs playing), one of your subs has reversed polarity.
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^^ call JDsmoothie here at AVS. He got good price. I got my x4000 brand new for $879 shipped about a year ago from an authorized dealer. Didn't think I would upgrade but the price was great and it turned out to be one of my best upgrade beside my sub. You don't need amp for high efficient speakers any way even though some might disagree.

Call him or PM him? If call I don't have his phone #..........
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Call him. He cannot give you best price by PM. By the way, JD and Batpig have the most knowledge about Denon. They both have been running the Denon owner threads here for a longest time.
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Call him. He cannot give you best price by PM. By the way, JD and Batpig have the most knowledge about Denon. They both have been running the Denon owner threads here for a longest time.
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I spoke with JD a few months ago when I thought I was in the market for a new receiver. He wasn't pushy and was very helpful. I didn't realize that Denon marked up their products so high, but they do and yes as tvuong stated the X4000 can be had for under $1000 shipped.

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I got no links, just experience with what has worked for me, with my system, in my room. Also, experience with reading AVS every dang day.

I can tell you for sure that if you use the phase knob on your subs to "time align" with your mains, you are only aligning at one frequency. If you use the distance setting in your AVR (with multiple, equidistant subs), you will align the subs with the mains at all frequencies. Search for the "sub distance tweak".

With dual subs, typically you would play pink noise through the subs only and adjust phase (on one sub only) for highest SPL at the MLP, then while playing pink noise through both the center channel and subs at the same time, you would do REW sweeps and adjust sub distance in your AVR until you get the smoothest transition through the crossover.


ive read playing brown noise is much better for adjusting subs phase with an spl meter... brown noise is where its at!!!
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Is that anything like the brown note?
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BH, someone long ago told me never buy a refurb Denon, don't know why but I think it has something to do with warranty, and if you don't mind me asking where can you get the 4000 for $899 shipped?

The biggest difference is new has a 3 year warranty whereas the refurb Denon only has 1 year. You can get an extended warranty though. Like others have mentioned, call JD and see what he can do for you. He should be able to tell you the comparison between the Denon and the Onkyo as well.


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It's really hard for me not to get that new Onkyo TX-NR1010 new for $989 shipped, MSRP is $1700 and I could get rid of all my amps to drive the new PSA Speakers.
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The Onkyo is a great unit and as you already have an Onkyo, the UI will be similar to what you have. Either option will be a great choice. Good luck. Another factor is the Onkyo has a 2 year warranty versus the 3 for the Denon. Although they are extending coverage till 2018 for the common problems. I would imagine the 1010 would be covered.
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Thanks Zeus and yes I am very familiar with the UI so I will feel more comfortable with it, I'll see what JD can do as One Call will do $989 shipped, thanks again.

Now this is where I start my download of REW correct, direct link I hope

Please let me know if this is right, and Alan I still have a lot of reading to do with the link you gave me, thanks.
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Yes, ahblaza....how many times you gotta ask.

And, putting a link to the direct download is not cool man....I, and others here probably aren't expecting to start downloading something when we click a link.

Just install REW already and get to playin'!
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Yes, ahblaza....how many times you gotta ask.

And, putting a link to the direct download is not cool man....I, and others here probably aren't expecting to start downloading something when we click a link.

Just install REW already and get to playin'!

That will be the last time I ask anything, and the link does not start downloading if you click on it
Excuse me for my ignorance, the direct link is deleted, I thought maybe it may help someone like myself who knows nothing about REW, sorry I am not as skilled at this as you acoustical engineers. I'm glad you liked that BassHead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That will be the last time I ask anything, and the link does not start downloading if you click on it
He is just giving you a hard time Jeffery...no worries here. Ask all the questions you need to my friend!!
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He is just giving you a hard time Jeffery...no worries here. Ask all the questions you need to my friend!!
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Thank you.


what subs you got this week?




sealed subs is where its at!!


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what subs you got this week?




sealed subs is where its at!!


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I politely disagree!...lol
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sealed subs is where its at!!


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Whatever ones I want
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That will be the last time I ask anything, and the link does not start downloading if you click on it
Excuse me for my ignorance, the direct link is deleted, I thought maybe it may help someone like myself who knows nothing about REW, sorry I am not as skilled at this as you acoustical engineers. I'm glad you liked that BassHead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calm....calm.......and for the record, I am NOT an "acoustical engineer" nor do I claim to be one.....nor do I appreciate the sarcasm.

Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, but the incessant repeated questioning about the same thing (where to get REW) were getting a little annoying. You had your answer (from me) and yet you asked again before you even downloaded and installed to see if I was right. You can understand where I'm coming from, right?

Yes, that link you posted did start downloading the REW installer as soon as I clicked on it (Chrome browser, may be different in other browsers, I don't know), not a big deal, just considered bad form in a public forum.

Please don't take offense and feel free to ask for help anytime!
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Can't we all just get along.



I am with Jbrown, ported pimp slaps sealed.
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^^^^ if you kids don't settle down up there I'll be forced to show you how we brought the pain in my day...

P.S. Ported ftw!!!!
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I am with Jbrown, ported pimp slaps sealed.

Does anybody have about 16 XS15se that they want to try to compare to my four ported cabinets?....lol
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Calm....calm.......and for the record, I am NOT an "acoustical engineer" nor do I claim to be one.....nor do I appreciate the sarcasm.

Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, but the incessant repeated questioning about the same thing (where to get REW) were getting a little annoying. You had your answer (from me) and yet you asked again before you even downloaded and installed to see if I was right. You can understand where I'm coming from, right?

Yes, that link you posted did start downloading the REW installer as soon as I clicked on it (Chrome browser, may be different in other browsers, I don't know), not a big deal, just considered bad form in a public forum.

Please don't take offense and feel free to ask for help anytime!
I'm OLD any sometimes I forget that I already got the answer to my question and have a habit of asking the same question multiple times, I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers here and I'm still getting used to the site as I've only been a member for 7 years Yes I finally got REW downloaded on my new laptop only I didn't do it myself as I don't know how to use this new laptop which is Windows 8.1 bing. That will be another learning curve along with REW. So I apologize for my behaving badly, it won't happen again. Thank you all for your understanding as I would be lost without you all
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Does anybody have about 16 XS15se that they want to try to compare to my four ported cabinets?....lol
What do I get now J, short of DIY since I have dual sealed subs How about dual XV30FSEs, seriously? I still have the thirty day free return shipping. Better yet J you can build me a couple of yours, space is no problem. I was told all I need is flat packs, glue and clamps, I wish it was that easy
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^^^^ Quad XV15se's.......

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^^^^ Quad XV15se's.......
Jim would kill me if I did that again, he will probably have nothing to do with me if I send back the XS30s for dual XV30Fs let alone quad XV15SEs
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Hey take advantage of that free shipping
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Jim would kill me if I did that again, he will probably have nothing to do with me if I send back the XS30s for dual XV30Fs let alone quad XV15SEs

Just order two more XS30se's and be done with it!


I did REALLY like my dual XS30's.
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Finally, I'm stepping into the big leagues!

It took a bit, but I managed to sell off two smaller subs (10" Velodyne Impact 10, 10" Martin Logan 700W) and placed the order for an XS15SE with Tom this morning. Less than 3 hours and I've already got the shipping confirmation! I wish every vendor I dealt with shipped as promptly!

The one down side: the delivery is coming Tuesday, so I'm stuck with the Impact 10 (selling to a co-worker who's making payments) until then. That does, thankfully, give me some time to do a last sub crawl to try and confirm the best position for the XS15 when it arrives.

Huge thanks to Tom for patiently answering all my n00bish questions.
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Finally, I'm stepping into the big leagues!

It took a bit, but I managed to sell off two smaller subs (10" Velodyne Impact 10, 10" Martin Logan 700W) and placed the order for an XS15SE with Tom this morning. Less than 3 hours and I've already got the shipping confirmation! I wish every vendor I dealt with shipped as promptly!

The one down side: the delivery is coming Tuesday, so I'm stuck with the Impact 10 (selling to a co-worker who's making payments) until then. That does, thankfully, give me some time to do a last sub crawl to try and confirm the best position for the XS15 when it arrives.

Huge thanks to Tom for patiently answering all my n00bish questions.

Your gonna love it!
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Anticipated first response:

"My God! It's full of WOOF!"
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here you go bro 16 sealed woofers ready to blow you away...


Home Theater of the Month: Popalock's "Bassment"—Big Screen, Bigger Subs

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What do I get now J, short of DIY since I have dual sealed subs How about dual XV30FSEs, seriously? I still have the thirty day free return shipping. Better yet J you can build me a couple of yours, space is no problem. I was told all I need is flat packs, glue and clamps, I wish it was that easy
Cheers Jeffrey
Jeffery, just buy these...

http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/po...woofer-7043903

Get the master slave combo for 4590.00. I thought about seeing if mark would sell me just the cabs but I have no where to put them. I was thinking about storing them until I can build a dedicated theater, but it would be better if somebody could utilize them now.

4500watt dsp speaker power amp
4- 18" Dayton Ultimax drivers tuned to 11hz
Would have significantly more output then 4 Submersives in the 10-25hz and roughly the same output above that point.

Honestly 4590.00 is a killer price for what you are getting. Probably 3-4 Triax's of output in those beasts.
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