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Really different designs that are optimized for different room environments. If the room is larger than say 3500-4000 cu-ft, I bet you prefer the ultra in most listening checks. If the room is much under 3000-3500 cu-ft I bet you prefer the XS30 a good part of the time.

Also, keep in mind for not much more than the ultra you can get DUAL XS30se subs. That would tilt everything toward the XS30se(s) in my opinion.

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The XV30 cranks out 120db from 63-125hz. My number one pet peeve anymore is when folks try to base a comparison based off of a narrow bandwidth. Sure the PB13 has a slight advantage from 20-45hz, but from 50-125hz the XV30 pulls away with ease. When you average the entire bandwidth the XV30 wins.

16-100hz cea2010 averages:

PB13U- 113.2

XV30se- 114.6

Another consideration is the XV30Fse didn't have the benefit of driver+port summation in the output checks. The port was measured, and then the driver baffle was measured separately. If Josh continues with his testing he'll probably come up with some sort of "summation" compensation file down the road. For now, just look at the 20-40hz output on the XV30Fse...see the unnatural "frown"? That is where the port+driver summation would be apparent. It wouldn't make a huge difference but I think you would see that 20-40hz range tick up a dB or two.

Based on the last 3-4 reviews I have seen I would expect the XV30Fse to have a much more accurate frequency response too as for some reason the PB/PC13ultras all measure with FR quirks.

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I've always admired the look of the xv30 for it's sheer brutality [QUOTE]




me too...!


i've been checkin this sub out for bout a month now...just don't read much about those with first hand experience with 'em.


been weighing pro's and con's between a pair of xv30fe's vs a pair of rhythmic F25's...
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Well PSA uses the standard "put a couple of big drivers in an equally big and ugly box" method.

Going with that you can get more output for less going to a DIY system.
The whole "costs less" argument over simplifies things too much.
I'm not sure how the cost of the product is ever over simplifying things? That is going to be one of the primary considerations for these types of purchases 99 out of 100 times.

In regards to box aesthetics...opinions vary. Let's not forget that "big ugly box" is made in Ohio by a vendor who has added two new employees just this year to keep up with our demand. Some may consider that a benefit versus the all chinese product?

BTW, we're building 5 of the XV30Fse right now. So a few folks must think the "big ugly" look is back in vogue?

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BTW, we're building 5 of the XV30Fse right now. So a few folks must think the "big ugly" look is back in vogue?

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Personally I'm a big fan of a "big ugly black box". They look fantastic sitting there in the corner and next to the couch.

Plus they make a powerful statement. A statement of: No wine spritzers or chick flicks here. Just good beer with wall quaking, floor shaking, LFE rumbling no holds barred bass bliss.

So to me the "Big Ugly" is a thing of beauty.
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I'm not sure how the cost of the product is ever over simplifying things? That is going to be one of the primary considerations for these types of purchases 99 out of 100 times.

In regards to box aesthetics...opinions vary. Let's not forget that "big ugly box" is made in Ohio by a vendor who has added two new employees just this year to keep up with our demand. Some may consider that a benefit versus the all chinese product?

BTW, we're building 5 of the XV30Fse right now. So a few folks must think the "big ugly" look is back in vogue?

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Wasn't really a knock on PSA. Most ID and DIY subs are like that. That's what works and is most cost effective.
Customers buying such subs know that and place performance over aesthetics.
Just as many think the fuzzy water heater is ugly too.
This has been discussed to death in another thread. Value varies per individual. Personally I don't care what the sub looks like. I only care if it fits in my space.
And I'm glad you and RA are using local sources and vendors.
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