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Ok I can tell you one thing, this XV30 will never leave this house. My theater room is upstairs......catch my drift?

just hope it doesnt take an unscheduled trip into the basement. tongue.gif

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Have you ever taken measurements from 5-6' closer to the front of the room?
And do you have any bass traps?

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XV30 vs my wife's car


And here I thought my box was big, lol

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XV30 vs my wife's car


That looks huge!! How did you get it upstairs to your theater?
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That looks huge!! How did you get it upstairs to your theater?

The top of the box just slides off so that part was real easy. So then you just pick up the sub from there. The hard part was carrying the sub through the house then upstairs. Took multiple breaks lol.
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The top of the box just slides off so that part was real easy. So then you just pick up the sub from there. The hard part was carrying the sub through the house then upstairs. Took multiple breaks lol.

Wow! That's a lot of weight to carry. Isn't it 158 lbs?
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Wow! That's a lot of weight to carry. Isn't it 158 lbs?

I had a buddy help me. My wife tried to help me but when she tried to lift up the other end she was like "nope not happening" so I called a friend lol. But even with a friend this thing nearly killed me going upstairs lol
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My xv 15 made a really strange noise today for the first time. I was just watching xmen first class and the scene when keven bacon engulfs the hand grenade. Made a really bad sound. I rewound and it did the sound again. It's weird because I was only at -10. My gain is at 3 o'clock and sub is set to plus +1.5 on my avr. Not sure but my best guess is it bottomed out? I just find it strange because I've listened to other bass heavy movies at higher volume and never had a problem. I turned the gain down hopefully never heared that sound again.
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Going from what my old Klipsch sounded like when it bottomed out it would have been a VERY loud pop that would scare the crap outta you.
I think PSA has a type of DSP built into the amp to stop that sort of thing, but to play it safe give them a call and explain exactly what it sounded like.
I have pushed mine pretty hard during the same movie and I can tell when I am over doing it...It starts to get...for lack of a better word, fluttery.

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I had a buddy help me. My wife tried to help me but when she tried to lift up the other end she was like "nope not happening" so I called a friend lol. But even with a friend this thing nearly killed me going upstairs lol
Reminds me of carrying my old 46" rear projection up to my old flat 20 plus years ago. The stairs must have been on a 60 degree angle. We had 3 guys under the TV pushing up the stairs. We left it there when we moved smile.gif

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My xv 15 made a really strange noise today for the first time. I was just watching xmen first class and the scene when keven bacon engulfs the hand grenade. Made a really bad sound. I rewound and it did the sound again. It's weird because I was only at -10. My gain is at 3 o'clock and sub is set to plus +1.5 on my avr. Not sure but my best guess is it bottomed out? I just find it strange because I've listened to other bass heavy movies at higher volume and never had a problem. I turned the gain down hopefully never heared that sound again.


Most likely the receiver sent an unusually large voltage spike(a sudden bass peak) to the input on the XV15 amplifier. So it may have had a very brief (fraction of a second) "clip". This often sounds like a "clack". The driver cannot "bottom" and make this type of noise in our designs.

Have you calibrated yet? If not, that tends to help minimize this type of problem. If it only happens "once a month" or something like that I wouldn't worry too much about it. If its more like once a day....time to calibrate and or try a different location for the subwoofer too.

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Most likely the receiver sent an unusually large voltage spike(a sudden bass peak) to the input on the XV15 amplifier. So it may have had a very brief (fraction of a second) "clip". This often sounds like a "clack". The driver cannot "bottom" and make this type of noise in our designs.

Have you calibrated yet? If not, that tends to help minimize this type of problem. If it only happens "once a month" or something like that I wouldn't worry too much about it. If its more like once a day....time to calibrate and or try a different location for the subwoofer too.

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Yes I calibrated the system with audyssey xt. The xv 15 has been sounding great. This is the first time I've heared it make the clack sound. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. Thanks for the quick response.
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Most likely the receiver sent an unusually large voltage spike(a sudden bass peak) to the input on the XV15 amplifier. So it may have had a very brief (fraction of a second) "clip". This often sounds like a "clack". The driver cannot "bottom" and make this type of noise in our designs.

Have you calibrated yet? If not, that tends to help minimize this type of problem. If it only happens "once a month" or something like that I wouldn't worry too much about it. If its more like once a day....time to calibrate and or try a different location for the subwoofer too.

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Hey Tom...This brings up a good point.
Are we safe to assume that for the most part the DSP in the amp will prevent us from damaging the sub by pushing it too hard. EG, turning up the gain too much to get more spl.?

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Lebreeze, you in Windsor Ontario?

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Alan,

Have you ever taken measurements from 5-6' closer to the front of the room?
And do you have any bass traps?

No and no.
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Hey Tom...This brings up a good point.
Are we safe to assume that for the most part the DSP in the amp will prevent us from damaging the sub by pushing it too hard. EG, turning up the gain too much to get more spl.?

Short answer, yes.

Please don't take this as a challenge but it would be *very* difficult to damage any of our products under normal operating conditions. This means typical source material (not steady state test tones) with SOME semblance of proper setup/calibration. And of course I'm also assuming the listening environment isn't ridiculously over sized for the product. For example, you can have a single XV15 calibrated.....but if its in a 25,000 cu-ft area 10 meters from the seat. It may just throw up the white flag before long.

Also, the DSP front end on the amplifier serves many purposes during the engineering process. It's more accurate to think of the entire system "synergy" preventing damage. Get the driver or enclosure/ enclosure tuning, a little "wrong" and no amount of signal processing upstream will save you when the going gets tough..smile.gif

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Short answer, yes.

Please don't take this as a challenge but it would be *very* difficult to damage any of our products under normal operating conditions. This means typical source material (not steady state test tones) with SOME semblance of proper setup/calibration. And of course I'm also assuming the listening environment isn't ridiculously over sized for the product. For example, you can have a single XV15 calibrated.....but if its in a 25,000 cu-ft area 10 meters from the seat. It may just throw up the white flag before long.

Also, the DSP front end on the amplifier serves many purposes during the engineering process. It's more accurate to think of the entire system "synergy" preventing damage. Get the driver or enclosure/ enclosure tuning, a little "wrong" and no amount of signal processing upstream will save you when the going gets tough..smile.gif

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Point taken.
I wont put it in the BIG room...LOL

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This thread has been kind of quiet lately. Everyone enjoying their subs?
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This thread has been kind of quiet lately. Everyone enjoying their subs?

I wish I had time the last two weeks. Hopefully I will this weekend. The wife wants to watch "Rock of Ages" tonight, so maybe tomorrow ill get a chance to give them a workout. Sunday is out, unless the Super Bowl has some crazy bass
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My wife just yelled at me to turn it down lol.....from downstairs in the kitchen. Saying "I think I saw some bricks fall off the house today" exaggerating but still funny.
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This thread has been kind of quiet lately. Everyone enjoying their subs?
You never gave us any update on your XV30? Thoughts?
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You never gave us any update on your XV30? Thoughts?

I'm gonna write a full review probably tomorrow when I get on my computer. I'm usually posting on here with my phone. But I'll give you my first impression.....this thing scares the s**t out of me!
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This thread has been kind of quiet lately. Everyone enjoying their subs?

I wish I had time the last two weeks. Hopefully I will this weekend. The wife wants to watch "Rock of Ages" tonight, so maybe tomorrow ill get a chance to give them a workout. Sunday is out, unless the Super Bowl has some crazy bass

going to be bone crunching base... when lewis nails the quarter back ... LOL lets go lewis....
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going to be bone crunching base... when lewis nails the quarter back ... LOL lets go lewis....

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Can any XS-30 owners give me your impressions on this sub?
im considering buying one within the next few weeks.
i just sold my 2 rw-12d's klipsch subs and im still researching
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