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Wanted to post my impressions of my dual XV-15se after a very fun weekend of playing in the home theater and fine tuning these. Ill get straight to the point. My system has never sounded better. These are fantastic subs and do exactly what I wanted them to do; keep up with my JBL 4670Ds at or around reference without compression and sound tuneful while doing it. Done, done, and done. My old HSU VTF-2.4s failed in all three of these areas. It kinda makes me upset how long I went before upgrading. Reference level with no compression is absolutely exhilarating!

It amazes me how wonderful of a company PSA is. Tom V. and Jim have created what I believe is the standard in which all other companies should strive for. Ive never seen an owner as passionate, patient, helpful, and intelligent as Tom V. This has been one of the best experiences Ive had in buying gear and having it live up to the hype or exceed it. Cheers to PSA!!!
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Wanted to post my impression of my dual XV-15se after a very fun weekend of playing in the home theater and fine tuning these. Ill get straight to the point. My system has never sounded better. These are fantastic subs and do exactly what I wanted them to do; keep up with my JBL 4670Ds at or around reference without compression and sound tuneful while doing it. Done, done, and done. My old HSU VTF-2.4s failed in all three of these areas. It kinda makes me upset how long I went before upgrading. Reference level with no compression is absolutely exhilarating!

It amazes me how wonderful of a company PSA is. Tom V. and Jim have created what I believe is the standard in which all other companies should strive for. Ive never seen an owner as passionate, patient, helpful, and intelligent as Tom V. This has been one of the best experiences Ive had in buying gear and having it live up to the hype or exceed it. Cheers to PSA!!!
Congrats on your new subs.

I have never communicated with Jim, but I can speak for Tom. that he is a really good person, and not just a salesman trying to push a product then dump you. I even seem him post on RA thread helping people over there. How cool is that. He seems to be more into helping to make people happy, even if its not his product. That is a lot of class. The other thing is I think he works 20 hours a day because he seems to always have time to answer questions for people. Not like a couple other people (Competitors) that seems too busy to answer messages or may answer back in a couple of weeks if you re lucky. So with PSA, you have really good and fast responsive AAA support. Which is very important in making a purchase.
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Congrats on your new subs.

I have never communicated with Jim, but I can speak for Tom. that he is a really good person, and not just a salesman trying to push a product then dump you. I even seem him post on RA thread helping people over there. How cool is that. He seems to be more into helping to make people happy, even if its not his product. That is a lot of class. The other thing is I think he works 20 hours a day because he seems to always have time to answer questions for people. Not like a couple other people (Competitors) that seems too busy to answer messages or may answer back in a couple of weeks if you re lucky. So with PSA, you have really good and fast responsive AAA support. Which is very important in making a purchase.
Absolutely! I read through this entire thread and was so impressed with the way Tom would work to help everyone who needed it. Just top notch. Mad respect for that man and his products.

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I have 2 pairs of Rocket fish wireless devices and they have been working great for almost 2yrs now. The only thing I wish I had done is bought a pair sooner...they definitely allow more placement options to dial in the subs response.
Thanks Bass that's good to hear, I'm about to order me a pair. I been thinking about going wireless with the one I already have, but wasn't sure how they would work. Thanks for the feed back.
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So easy a caveman can do it.
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I have 2 pairs of Rocket fish wireless devices and they have been working great for almost 2yrs now. The only thing I wish I had done is bought a pair sooner...they definitely allow more placement options to dial in the subs response.
Are there any disadvantages to using the wireless device?
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None that I ran into. I didn't notice any delays in explosions or anything like that and the transmitters turned on and off like they were supposed to.

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None that I ran into. I didn't notice any delays in explosions or anything like that and the transmitters turned on and off like they were supposed to.
How about voltage, I know some receivers have issues powering the speaker power amps.
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Wanted to post my impressions of my dual XV-15se after a very fun weekend of playing in the home theater and fine tuning these. Ill get straight to the point. My system has never sounded better. These are fantastic subs and do exactly what I wanted them to do; keep up with my JBL 4670Ds at or around reference without compression and sound tuneful while doing it. Done, done, and done. My old HSU VTF-2.4s failed in all three of these areas. It kinda makes me upset how long I went before upgrading. Reference level with no compression is absolutely exhilarating!

It amazes me how wonderful of a company PSA is. Tom V. and Jim have created what I believe is the standard in which all other companies should strive for. Ive never seen an owner as passionate, patient, helpful, and intelligent as Tom V. This has been one of the best experiences Ive had in buying gear and having it live up to the hype or exceed it. Cheers to PSA!!!

I just wanted to add what a great gentleman Jim is as well. Tom does all the PR work and Jim does all the work Tom.............
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Just started using Rew for the first Time and I notice That on page 49 of getting started with Rew PDF I am not getting the SPL Reading Calibration window like the example shows you to set to 80db like your spl meter.
also on page 50 not getting Calibration completed window?
I'm also assuming that when you purchase the umik 1 mic from TV and download the cal file it already has a sensitivity file pasted in the file at the top of it.?
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Just started using Rew for the first Time and I notice That on page 49 of getting started with Rew PDF I am not getting the SPL Reading Calibration window like the example shows you to set to 80db like your spl meter.
also on page 50 not getting Calibration completed window?
I'm also assuming that when you purchase the umik 1 mic from TV and download the cal file it already has a sensitivity file pasted in the file at the top of it.?
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Just started using Rew for the first Time and I notice That on page 49 of getting started with Rew PDF I am not getting the SPL Reading Calibration window like the example shows you to set to 80db like your spl meter.
also on page 50 not getting Calibration completed window?
I'm also assuming that when you purchase the umik 1 mic from TV and download the cal file it already has a sensitivity file pasted in the file at the top of it.?
Yes when you got to minidsp's website and download the cal file the sensitivity is already pasted into the file.
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Just started using Rew for the first Time and I notice That on page 49 of getting started with Rew PDF I am not getting the SPL Reading Calibration window like the example shows you to set to 80db like your spl meter.
also on page 50 not getting Calibration completed window?
I'm also assuming that when you purchase the umik 1 mic from TV and download the cal file it already has a sensitivity file pasted in the file at the top of it.?
Yeah, if you have a mic with a sensitivity factor line in the cal file you will be unable to calibrate the SPL in REW. You're good to go.
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Are there any disadvantages to using the wireless device?
Potentially.

I used one for a bit with subs that flanked my couch. Each about 4 feet from my main LP. After putting them in the chain and running Audyssey it had the distance set at 28ft. So the delay in getting from the receiver to the subs adds about 25ft to the sub distance calculated by Audyssey. I believe the max sub distance in Audyssey is 30ft. I am guessing if the subs would have been further away from my LP then audyssey would not have been able to calculate correctly.
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I'd like a lot more punch/mid-bass. I have 2 XV15se's being pushed by a little x1000. any ideas on what the best route to take here would be? My old dual 12's of a different manu couldn't come close to the range/depth/richness of these but they had punch for days. mmm...puuunnnch.

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Just started using Rew for the first Time and I notice That on page 49 of getting started with Rew PDF I am not getting the SPL Reading Calibration window like the example shows you to set to 80db like your spl meter.
also on page 50 not getting Calibration completed window?
I'm also assuming that when you purchase the umik 1 mic from TV and download the cal file it already has a sensitivity file pasted in the file at the top of it.?
Post a graph and some questions, I'm sure the boys can get you on the right track

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Potentially.

I used one for a bit with subs that flanked my couch. Each about 4 feet from my main LP. After putting them in the chain and running Audyssey it had the distance set at 28ft. So the delay in getting from the receiver to the subs adds about 25ft to the sub distance calculated by Audyssey. I believe the max sub distance in Audyssey is 30ft. I am guessing if the subs would have been further away from my LP then audyssey would not have been able to calculate correctly.
From what I gather, this is not correct.

Audyssey can set distances longer than 30', you just can't adjust them. Not sure how you'd do the distance tweak, but that's what I've read here.

@basshead81 has the wireless sub kits and I know his subs get calibrated further than 30', maybe he'll chime in soon.
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I'd like a lot more punch/mid-bass. I have 2 XV15se's being pushed by a little x1000. any ideas on what the best route to take here would be? My old dual 12's of a different manu couldn't come close to the range/depth/richness of these but they had punch for days. mmm...puuunnnch.
Have you done any/all of the below? Have you read the Audyssey 101 linked in my sig?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Set the gain on the sub to around 12:00-2:00 (just a starting point, gain structure can vary greatly from one manufacturer to another). Set phase to "0".

1. Connect sub and place it at the MLP
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5. Look to see where Audyssey has set your sub trim, you want it to be around -5db to -8db ideally
6. Adjust the gain on the sub up or down as needed
7. Repeat 4-6 until you get the sub trim around -5db to -8db
8. Run the full Audyssey calibration
9. Bump up the sub trim by 3db to 6db to your preference
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First Graph with FL/SUB/No Audyssey - If someone can give me some help I would appreciate it.
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Thats some big mountains you have there. Holy Moly. I take it you only have 1 sub? Did you do a sub crawl? And if yes, was there any other good locations? You may can try another area and see if that helps that Giant Peak and Null. If you only have 1 sub, this is where a 2nd sub may help. But maybe some of these more experienced guys can give you some more ideas on what to try to smooth that out some.


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Measure your response...you probably have a cancellation in the upper bass range. I can tell you for a fact that my XV15's have enough punch to make your teeth chatter.

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[QUOTE=Red99;31229009]Thats some big mountains you have there. Holy Moly. I take it you only have 1 sub? Did you do a sub crawl? And if yes, was there any other good locations? You may can try another area and see if that helps that Giant Peak and Null. If you only have 1 sub, this is where a 2nd sub may help. But maybe some of these more experienced guys can give you some more ideas on what to try to smooth that out some.[/QUOTE

No, That's with 2 subs - one Psa 30se and my older Paradigm signature 30 servo sub up front and the Psa is behind my couch, I have not done the sub crawl yet, I wanted to see a graph first. My back of my room is open to a kitchen area so that does not help, Once i can do some better placement maybe I can tame it down some because i'm loosing all my mid-bass. I also do not have any smoothing on that graph.
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