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Can you order these or did you do something special to get it? Sweet mug Brian!
I think Tom gives them to return PSA customers. I got one when I did the SE upgrades. Should of bought some MTM's instead of CX's then you could of had one too. Lol

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(3) MTM-210's (2) MT-110's and (2) XS-30's approx. $5500...............................

I asked Tom for a Tee-Shirt, he said they didn't have any..............never received the beverage thing.......WTF!
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This is what I wa ls REALLY referring to


i also notice a baby monitor. Does that put the breaks on a lot of late night loud watching?

Edit: cause it does for me
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i also notice a baby monitor. Does that put the breaks on a lot of late night loud watching?

Edit: cause it does for me
nope....my kids sleep through anything...but again. they ARE three flights upstairs..and my room isnt even soundproofed yet

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(3) MTM-210's (2) MT-110's and (2) XS-30's approx. $5500...............................

I asked Tom for a Tee-Shirt, he said they didn't have any..............never received the beverage thing.......WTF!
You must not be the chosen one.

I would reach out to him and ask for a psa mug if you really want one.

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You must not be the chosen one.

I would reach out to him and ask for a psa mug if you really want one.
We usually only ship mugs when we need to ship replacement grill pegs or wood veneer samples. Fedex ground has minimums and the s/h cost is the same whether we include the mug...so I just hate shipping "air" so to speak. We also shipped mugs to anyone who participated in our first poll IIRC.

We talked about putting them on the website but fedex ground averages about $11-14 for one of these. So I just didn't see much demand for a $20-$25 mug.

We're just about out now so I'll need to start shipping the above without mugs anyway.

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We usually only ship mugs when we need to ship replacement grill pegs or wood veneer samples. Fedex ground has minimums and the s/h cost is the same whether we include the mug...so I just hate shipping "air" so to speak. We also shipped mugs to anyone who participated in our first poll IIRC.

We talked about putting them on the website but fedex ground averages about $11-14 for one of these. So I just didn't see much demand for a $20-$25 mug.

We're just about out now so I'll need to start shipping the above without mugs anyway.

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WHAT!!!
You mean you didn't throw one into my XV15 box yesterday when it shipped???? I demand a refund!!!!

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We usually only ship mugs when we need to ship replacement grill pegs or wood veneer samples. Fedex ground has minimums and the s/h cost is the same whether we include the mug...so I just hate shipping "air" so to speak. We also shipped mugs to anyone who participated in our first poll IIRC.

We talked about putting them on the website but fedex ground averages about $11-14 for one of these. So I just didn't see much demand for a $20-$25 mug.

We're just about out now so I'll need to start shipping the above without mugs anyway.

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That makes perfect sense. While I like everyone else would love to get one it makes sense to only ship them out when there is space for it in a box that is already going out. All of my boxes of been crammed full of Subwoofer stuff, no room for a mug.

But the subs that came in the boxes are great.
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WHAT!!!
You mean you didn't throw one into my XV15 box yesterday when it shipped???? I demand a refund!!!!
They wouldn't fit anyway, need to ship in their own boxing..

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They wouldn't fit anyway, need to ship in their own boxing..

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You mean it won't fit in the port?!

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You mean it won't fit in the port?!
And we've come full circle...

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Tom just give them a bumper sticker. lol


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Just got mine last week and haven't really had a chance to play with it

My question is how far away from the wall does to port need to be?.

Also any tips on how to set it up? I noticed three dials on the back (not really sure what they do) and I do plan on running Audyssey sometime this weekend

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My question is how far away from the wall does to port need to be?
2-3".

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Also any tips on how to set it up? I noticed three dials on the back (not really sure what they do) and I do plan on running Audyssey sometime this weekend


First things first, read the owners manual.

Then read the Audyssey 101 linked in my sig.

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Set the gain on the sub to around 12:00-2:00 (just a starting point, gain structure can vary greatly from one manufacturer to another). Set phase to "0".

1. Connect sub and place it at the MLP
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5. Look to see where Audyssey has set your sub trim, you want it to be around -5db to -8db ideally
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7. Repeat 4-6 until you get the sub trim around -5db to -8db
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I think Tom gives them to return PSA customers. I got one when I did the SE upgrades. Should of bought some MTM's instead of CX's then you could of had one too. Lol
I received the black plastic mug when I requested veneer samples, then the brushed metal mug with my Triax.
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2-3".


First things first, read the owners manual.
Who has time to read owners manuals? I have movies to watch!

But thank you for the info! Hopefully I get some time to do it this weekend
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I received the black plastic mug when I requested veneer samples, then the brushed metal mug with my Triax.
Yeah I have the original plastic one and the new metal one as well, obviously I did a lot of something to deserve them, I think I was the second Triax owner and the first speaker owner, so yes my mugs are very expensive, the misses uses the metal one all the time. She asked if you get another subwoofer will Tom or Jim send another mug for her mother, I said of course HONEY
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Yeah I have the original plastic one and the new metal one as well, obviously I did a lot of something to deserve them, I think I was the second Triax owner and the first speaker owner, so yes my mugs are very expensive, the misses uses the metal one all the time. She asked if you get another subwoofer will Tom or Jim send another mug for her mother, I said of course HONEY
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Lol.....yeah, those mugs cost me a bundle. But on the plus side they came with a free Triax!
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We usually only ship mugs when we need to ship replacement grill pegs or wood veneer samples. Fedex ground has minimums and the s/h cost is the same whether we include the mug...so I just hate shipping "air" so to speak. We also shipped mugs to anyone who participated in our first poll IIRC.

We talked about putting them on the website but fedex ground averages about $11-14 for one of these. So I just didn't see much demand for a $20-$25 mug.

We're just about out now so I'll need to start shipping the above without mugs anyway.

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Oh man Tom you really ought to check out USPS first class or priority mail. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and I would bet you could send that mug in a priority mail bubble envelope anywhere in the country in two days for less than $5
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^ I was thinking the same thing. "If it fits it ships" flat rate 5.00 shipping.
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^ I was thinking the same thing. "If it fits it ships" flat rate 5.00 shipping.
We need to be able to track. I know it doesn't sound important with stuff like this but whenever a customer might ask...I ordered something 3 days ago where is it? I can't say "I have no idea, hoep it gets there soon!".. USPS is so unpredictable, we can send two identical boxes to the same address and the first time it can be 2 days, the next 5.

And we tried UPS in the past, we won't be going there again...


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Sent this to PSA earlier today what do you think........

Today I received I believe your last original XV15. Anyway, it has a bit of an issue. When I set it to auto-on it comes on with no problem. The problem is, when I turn everything off in my system, after 10-15 minutes it will try and go into stand-by. The green light will turn off for about 3-4 seconds, but turn right back on again. You can hear the amp click off and on again. It will continue to shut off again in another 10-15 minutes, but it always seems to kick back on again and will not just stay in stand-by (green light stays on). I have tried (3) different audio cables to no avail.

I have it connected to a Denon E300.

My other two Xv15's which I have had since Feb 2014 do not behave like this. They are connected to a Denon 4311.

Please let me know what you think is the problem
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My guess is that it is picking up interference in the signal chain.

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My guess is that it is picking up interference in the signal chain.

Any ideas what to look for? Thanks BTW, I did e-mail Tom late last night about it.

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If you shut down your sub, power it off or unplug it, then pull the sub cable off, plug the power cord back in and then power on the sub and toggle the power switch on and off and notice if the driver moves at all and notice what sound the sub makes as you you toggle the power switch on and off. With the sub cable pulled and the sub's amp on stand by it should shut off within 10-15 minutes, if not the amp needs replaced. I had a problem with one of my XS30SEs not powering off at stand by for two hours, it ended it being the source which was my Comcast DVR which was the last source used before powering off the receiver, it had a residual noise signal that the sub's amp was detecting through the sub cable and thus the long shut off in stand by. I disconnected the the sub cable and the amp in stand by shut down in 10 minutes.
Your sub's amp not powering down in stand by with sub cable pulled means the amp is defective, the popping when the furnace kicking on is the circuit your sub is on and has nothing to do with the stand by mode not powering off without a sub cable attached. Try a different circuit or receptacle that you know the furnace is not on it and see if the popping still exists when the furnace kicks on, that will at least eliminate one problem. The other problem (sorry to keep repeating myself) with the sub in stand by not powering off without a sub cable plugged in is a defective amp, normal shutdown in stand by is 10-15 minutes. Do you hear the pop when the furnace kicks on with the sub cable pulled and in stand by mode? Also when you shut your AVR off is there a particular source that was used when you shut down the AVR or does it happen no matter what the previous source was used? The furnace situation has me concerned, I wouldn't worry about damaging the sub as I think the damage may already happened. If you get anything out of all that I said the sub amp in auto on/off position should never stay on with the sub cable pulled. Try a different outlet with an extension cord with a similar AWG as the sub's power cord and don't connect a sub interconnect and power it on and then put the toggle switch in the auto on/off position and see what happens, if all is as should be the sub will power down within 15 minutes and listen for the furnace starting and get back with your results. Sorry for the lengthy reply, I have a hard time trying to put my thought into words. I could have told you all of this in 2 or 3 sentences.
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Jeff, I think this may be my problem with the XV15 I just received yesterday. With the subwoofer cable pulled off, the amp is going into stand-by like it should, with the cable attached to the LFE input, the subwoofer will attempt to go into stand-by, but it will only stay for 3 or 4 seconds before the green light goes back on!


What, if anything, were you able to do to correct this issue?


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Jeff, I think this may be my problem with the XV15 I just received yesterday. With the subwoofer cable pulled off, the amp is going into stand-by like it should, with the cable attached to the LFE input, the subwoofer will attempt to go into stand-by, but it will only stay for 3 or 4 seconds before the green light goes back on!


What, if anything, were you able to do to correct this issue?


Thanks
That could indicate the cable is getting some EMI. If it is running parallel to AC cords try to re arrange things so it crosses the AC cords in a *X* fashion. Perpendicular.

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We need to be able to track. I know it doesn't sound important with stuff like this but whenever a customer might ask...I ordered something 3 days ago where is it? I can't say "I have no idea, hoep it gets there soon!".. USPS is so unpredictable, we can send two identical boxes to the same address and the first time it can be 2 days, the next 5.

And we tried UPS in the past, we won't be going there again...


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Jeff, I think this may be my problem with the XV15 I just received yesterday. With the subwoofer cable pulled off, the amp is going into stand-by like it should, with the cable attached to the LFE input, the subwoofer will attempt to go into stand-by, but it will only stay for 3 or 4 seconds before the green light goes back on!


What, if anything, were you able to do to correct this issue?


Thanks
Gov, try what TV suggested, if that doesn't work try connecting it to your other receiver and see what happens.
I my case it was with my Comcast DVR sending some residual signal after I shut the receiver down, as it never happened with any other source. I thought this was unacceptable and tried again and lowered the power up volume in the receiver's menu and I never had a problem again. Jim did suggest some type of RF blocker on the sub cable but it never got to that. Without cable attached it does shut down in standby mode, correct? If that's the case you can rule out the amp, if it wouldn't shut down without a cable attached it's definitely the amp according to Jim. Try your other AVR and get back to us. Also does this happen with all sources that you used before powering down your receiver or just a specific source?

I'm thinking it's the receiver, I could be wrong, did you buy this sub from a private owner, if so did he have any issues with this problem?
I hope you resolve this issue as I know how frustrating this can be. If it's not a big deal I would really try and hook it up to your other Denon and see if it persists.
Cheers Jeff
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I have a question for you guys. I'm about to buy my 2nd XV-15, and was wondering do any of you have your subs connected wirelessly? If so what do y'all use? Thanks in advance.

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