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bear might be harsh, but he pretty much sums it up well, lol. kinda silly when you look at it that way. the bass was impressive though...very impactful, but very few moments of deep deep stuff. it's a leave your brain at the door and watch kind of movie.
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One thing for sure, just knowing my sub is coming this month makes me want to not watch any movies until its here!
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One thing for sure, just knowing my sub is coming this month makes me want to not watch any movies until its here!
Watch 'em all. You'll re-watch them and be wowed anyway. LOL
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Watch 'em all. You'll re-watch them and be wowed anyway. LOL
That's a good point. Plus then you can truly see what your money got you. I say this now but every time I order new audio stuff I stop watching anything new until it shows up lol.
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Jeff, can you see the UMIK as an option when you are calibrating the recording option on your computer's sound card?
Hop, yes I can. I've been so busy trying to catch up on neglected things around my house and family. Jerry Austin gave me a complete check list to go through with the windows configuration, he thinks something is taking exclusive control of the input device and that's why the UMIK-1 is not being recognized. I can do the voice recording with no problem. I'm going to spend some quality time going over everything Jerry laid out for me and report back. I'm not giving up just trying to catch up TIA
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I just watched john wick. I thought it was pretty good. Spoiler Alert a ton of people get shot in the face, like an unusual amount.
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Would a 3000i be comparable to (2) LFM-1EX subs? I'm trying to go to a single sub (WAF) but not lose any bass. Room size is 20x18 with 8-10' sloped ceiling, room is open to "galley" style kitchen.

Taking recommendations on which PSA sub to look into. Originally was looking at the XV30se but it seems to be no longer available :/

** I know the XV30 is a massive sub, and many will say how will that pass WAF. Well according to the sub crawl the best location for it, is behind the couch near a corner. About 2-3 feet from the corner along the back wall which is 20' long. Thanks again.
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Would a 3000i be comparable to (2) LFM-1EX subs? I'm trying to go to a single sub (WAF) but not lose any bass. Room size is 20x18 with 8-10' sloped ceiling, room is open to "galley" style kitchen.

Taking recommendations on which PSA sub to look into. Originally was looking at the XV30se but it seems to be no longer available :/
Hey Randall nice to see you still looking at PSA to replace those Outlaws. I don't think you will be disappointed at all going with ANY of the PSA subs. I do however suspect that it might be a good idea that whatever you do decide to go with that you should really what you might loose with going to a single sub. The reason being is that you have duals now and you will likely loose some of the room smoothening that you would get with duals if you opted for a single. I personally ordered two V1500s! If you can swing it and get the wife on board you should go duals... if not a 3000i should blow away the two Outlaws.
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Hey Randall nice to see you still looking at PSA to replace those Outlaws. I don't think you will be disappointed at all going with ANY of the PSA subs. I do however suspect that it might be a good idea that whatever you do decide to go with that you should really what you might loose with going to a single sub. The reason being is that you have duals now and you will likely loose some of the room smoothening that you would get with duals if you opted for a single. I personally ordered two V1500s! If you can swing it and get the wife on board you should go duals... if not a 3000i should blow away the two Outlaws.
I could do the duals, BUT the wife is REALLY just wanting 1 sub in our living room.

My Outlaws are sold, just waiting to meet up with the guy. I spoke with someone from PSA, can't remember if it was Tom or someone else. They said they *might* be revising the XV30 but it won't be till later on in the year. I couldn't last that long without bass! So looking for something available now, or in the near future.
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John Wick was not worth seeing, both from a story-line standpoint and a bass standpoint. IMO. Here is a brief summary:

Spoiler!
LOL, I like your concise summary. It's interesting you say there isn't bass though, I have heard that its a great bass movie. Now I'm perplexed.
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Oblivion is still by far one of the most impressive movies for bass, audio, and picture quality!!
Absolutely!!! Oblivion is IMO the go to movie to test out any HT system for bass, surround sound and over all audio. Personally I believe it's a must have in a video library if you take this hobby seriously. It's a movie you can sit back and enjoy because it truly lets you experience what your system can deliver.

Also, let's not forget the rocket launch in Enders Game. That will make your windows flex.
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Should I crossover my full range towers at 60Hz when I get my sub? Using the SVS Merlin, that is what it recommended.

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I could do the duals, BUT the wife is REALLY just wanting 1 sub in our living room.

My Outlaws are sold, just waiting to meet up with the guy. I spoke with someone from PSA, can't remember if it was Tom or someone else. They said they *might* be revising the XV30 but it won't be till later on in the year. I couldn't last that long without bass! So looking for something available now, or in the near future.
The output capabilities will be close. I'd expect a 2-3dB edge around the port tuning for the dual outlaws and a 3-4dB edge for the S3000 in the upper bass. The overall average should be really close 16-100hz.

Another option to consider might be one V1500? It is actually surprisingly close to the XV30Fse in terms of clean output per CEA-2010 guidelines. The V1500 is down about 2dB from 16-100hz compared to the XV30Fse.

A single V1500 would be *very* similar to dual outlaws in terms of extension and output(assuming you have the outlaw in max ext mode).

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Should I crossover my full range towers at 60Hz when I get my sub? Using the SVS Merlin, that is what it recommended.
I'd start with 80hz and experiment a little up and down from there.

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I'd start with 80hz and experiment a little up and down from there.

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Thanks, I guess I will try that.

Another question: Can the sub be plugged into a line conditioner or does it need to plug straight into the wall?

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another thumbs up for oblivion for sure...great movie and amazing soundtrack all the way around. ur making me want to watch it today! lol

+1 on enders game launch scene. it's really a surprising moment when it happens, because it goes from fairly quiet to full on bass assault. just awesome!
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Hunger Games the Mocking Jay is terrible for ULF. It has some decent bass scenes as Climber pointed out. The Bombing scene is pretty good, but John Wick was much more impressive for bass. I think Bear is one of the few that would rate JW that bad. It has a 4 star rating over at data-bass.com/forums.


Oblivion is still by far one of the most impressive movies for bass, audio, and picture quality!!
It was a Red-Box rental...maybe I got the DVD by accident, or if they were out of the Blu-Ray? I swear, I noticed almost nothing impressive anywhere in the movie that I recall. I don't think lack of extension is the issue as my ported subs are more tactile than the sealed subs I have had on demo scenes(probly just headroom)
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Thanks, I guess I will try that.

Another question: Can the sub be plugged into a line conditioner or does it need to plug straight into the wall?
Unless you live off the grid in a cabin somewhere and go through daily AC outages...just go straight into the wall..

Conditioners can actually do more hard than good as they can current limit the power supply in the audio amplifier.

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Unless you live off the grid in a cabin somewhere and go through daily AC outages...just go straight into the wall..

Conditioners can actually do more hard than good as they can current limit the power supply in the audio amplifier.

If someone HAS to use a surge protector just for "peace of mind"... spend 10 bucks on this


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so, wait...you recommend NOT using a surge protector? what about lightning strikes and such in the spring? i would hate to have my sub ruined due to a surge like that during a stormy ohio springtime!
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so, wait...you recommend NOT using a surge protector? what about lightning strikes and such in the spring? i would hate to have my sub ruined due to a surge like that during a stormy ohio springtime!
If possible, do a whole house surge protector right at the main breaker box.

If not, a cheap surge protector like the one I linked is fine. I wouldn't spend much more than $25. Just go whole house instead.

Here is a good article

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-surge-protector/

Modern electronics already have some degree of surge protection built in.

It doesn't hurt to add more layers of protection. Just be sure you are buying *protection* and not a marketing blurb.

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Another option to consider might be one V1500? It is actually surprisingly close to the XV30Fse in terms of clean output per CEA-2010 guidelines. The V1500 is down about 2dB from 16-100hz compared to the XV30Fse.

A single V1500 would be *very* similar to dual outlaws in terms of extension and output(assuming you have the outlaw in max ext mode).

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not according to Timothy...know way no how...lol
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It was a Red-Box rental...maybe I got the DVD by accident, or if they were out of the Blu-Ray? I swear, I noticed almost nothing impressive anywhere in the movie that I recall. I don't think lack of extension is the issue as my ported subs are more tactile than the sealed subs I have had on demo scenes(probly just headroom)
I would definitely check out the blu ray...JW is a bass fest.


On a side note I revisited Wrath of The Titans...WOW! Non stop pounding the entire movie. Luv those types of movies.

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I would definitely check out the blu ray...JW is a bass fest.


On a side note I revisited Wrath of The Titans...WOW! Non stop pounding the entire movie. Luv those types of movies.
Frankensteins Army! I've yet to hear a movie with such consistent non stop LFE throughout the entire movie. It won't win an Oscar, but damn its bass is plentiful. Not just a scene or two I'm talkin about assault throughout the entire movie.

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Frankensteins Army! I've yet to hear a movie with such consistent non stop LFE throughout the entire movie. It won't win an Oscar, but damn its bass is plentiful. Not just a scene or two I'm talkin about assault throughout the entire movie.
Is it over the top like a bass boosted rap song or just consistently good bass?

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Great list. I have all of them except Battlefield LA.
Love the movie Inception! Might be one of my first to watch for sure.
Lone Survivor is another great flick for bass. Those helicopters!!
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Frankensteins Army! I've yet to hear a movie with such consistent non stop LFE throughout the entire movie. It won't win an Oscar, but damn its bass is plentiful. Not just a scene or two I'm talkin about assault throughout the entire movie.
Is it over the top like a bass boosted rap song or just consistently good bass?
Consistent good bass, but it's not a movie for kids or the wife or girlfriend.
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Just added it to my Netflix Queue!

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not according to Timothy...know way no how...lol
Well, he has a somewhat unique room environment too. I've talked to him on the phone a few times and he seems like a really cool guy to me. Sometimes reading a forum post can give us the wrong impression as we tend to impart our own emotions onto the text. I bet if we all were shooting pool and having a beer somewhere it would be a hoot.

Having said that---we also need to remember, no one has heard the V1500 yet except a few "local pick up" folks last month. They would immediately see the V1500 and ask...."is that on the website"? Our response was "not yet, and let's pretend like you didn't see it"..

The Xv15se wasn't that far off(3.5-4dB?)

A little more amp, a little driver tweak, but most importantly....about 35% more effective enclosure volume.

We'll have some graphs up on the website comparing the XS15se to the S1500, XV15se to the V1500, and XS30se to the S3000s asap. Things are blowing-up a bit though in terms of sales. I have never been this busy/behind at any point with svs or here. So web updates are a bit down on our list right now. Here is the current schedule.

3-10/3-11 First S1500 production run.
3-17/3-18 First V1500 production run.
3-23/3-24 First S3000(and S3000i) production run

3-30/3-31 Second V1500 production run(this is about 40% filled last I checked)
4-7/4-8 Second S1500 production run(this is about 25% filled last I checked)

And in-between all of this we have to keep up with XV15se, XS30se, T-18,miniDSP, U MIK, and all speaker orders.

Not that we're complaining of course. Just wish we had more than 24 hours in the day at this point...


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