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Go to this forum. One of the guys gas a link in his signature called 'Getting started with REW a step by step guide'. I thought that guide was awesome.

Simplified REW Setup and Use (USB Mic & HDMI Connection) Including Measurement Techniques and How To Interpret Graphs

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I did some messing around today with adding in my old sub with the new one to see if it would help my room situation. I ran a lot of sweeps experimenting with the delay and these were the best readings I got. Blueish line is single v1500 black is that with my old sub together. Not real thrilled so far but it's a little better than where I had things initially.
Doesn't look like it changes your FR much at all. You probably need to move one of the subs to a location where it will help the FR.
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Doesn't look like it changes your FR much at all. You probably need to move one of the subs to a location where it will help the FR.
I have moved the V1500 around quite a bit in the limited area it could be moved to. This was the best I could do. Wondering if adding more bass traps would help instead of adding a second V1500.

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^^ just want to be sure that you rerun AVR auto calibration after each sub move. There should be a difference/improvement with dual subs. Your graph does not show.
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I have moved the V1500 around quite a bit in the limited area it could be moved to. This was the best I could do. Wondering if adding more bass traps would help instead of adding a second V1500.
Have you tried opposite corners of the room? Or do you have them both up front?
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^^ just want to be sure that you rerun AVR auto calibration after each sub move. There should be a difference/improvement with dual subs. Your graph does not show.
I did not. I ran it after the fact I guess now that you mention it. The single v1500 measurement was taken after auto recalibration. I will try to get another measurement this week and see what it looks like i just ran out of time today.

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Have you tried opposite corners of the room? Or do you have them both up front?
I could but would need to get a wireless transmitter, then if you go wireless with one you should go wireless with 2 right?

I was doing the 1/4 option here. Physically that is my best option with cables.

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So after all these graphs I see you all posting I am tempted to order a mic from Tom tommorow.

I started reading REW forums and all but honestly it keeps blind siding me. Does anyone know of any good tutorial videos on it that I could follow?

Also I have a htpc in my rack behind my seats could I use that to connect to the mic?

I'm thinking I should get a mix because my Xs30se and xv15 are probably going to need some help on being placed
Alan and I both have links in our signatures because this question comes up so often. I suggest to anybody to not use mobile view of this forum, you can easily miss important information that is commonly shared.

Getting Started with REW: A Step by Step Guide --> http://www.mediafire.com/view/aolmz2..._101_v3.92.pdf

Mini DSP Tutorial by Neutro --> http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-su...g-minidsp.html
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I could but would need to get a wireless transmitter, then if you go wireless with one you should go wireless with 2 right?

I was doing the 1/4 option here. Physically that is my best option with cables.

https://www.aperionaudio.com/blog/du...-for-your-home
You could probably do one wireless and not the other and it would work just fine. I do, however, think that you shouldn't really have to move around much more than you already have. As you graph suggests, you are doing pretty good with one sub. What I would do (when you have time again) is put both subs how you "want" to have them... in other words, put them in the 1/4 option. Then re-run MCACC fully. I even would go so far as going through each step in the Manual MCACC option and going through it one by one.

I put my subs in their "spots" as I don't have any other options. I connected the miniDSP and bypassed every filter there it had. I then ran MCACC in expert mode with the "all channel adjust" selected. Afterward, I grabbed the SPL meter and sat in my MLP and manually adjusted all the channels (which really was only minor adjustments) to 75db. Some channels were just a hair bit over 75 while others were slightly less. I did the gain correction. I took the loudest sub and used it at my default and raised the less loud sub a tad to match. I then bumped up the subs to be a bit hot (-5db to 0db). Afterward I went into MCACC manual and ran the full on equalizer again. Then reverb.

Needless to say they sound amazing. I watched The Avengers with my family today and I was so impressed. Now... I have a huge room with tile floors. It should be very difficult for me to be impressed... but I am. I think you should try and it get it looking "sounding" good without REW and then once it sounds good without REW then use REW to get it that much better. I don't think REW is going to make something that is really lacking all of a sudden satisfying.

A few side notes... I have the room size knobs maxed out to large. I also set my XO to 100Hz for a little more headroom (MCACC set all my speakers to +4-6db).

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