Originally Posted by sinisanav
So, guys, I have a question. a few posts earlier in this quite busy day on this thread I asked about the experiences with XS15se,XS30 etc, I definitely see that you liked a lot the XS30(se) in your theaters.
so, for comparison, can you tell me what are the sizes of the spaces where you use pair of XS30 or just one.
My HT is 13x15x7.5 about 1500 cubic ft. I think dual XS15se or S1500 will pressurize that space plenty, but what are your thoughts?
Originally Posted by basshead81
Hop I would go dual 3000i...pretty much the same output around the XV15 tune but 2 times the output in the meat of the power band!!
Originally Posted by nalthien
Note that the biggest differences between the S3000i and the XS30se where in the lowest ranges where a ported subwoofer would make a difference. Honestly, if you're going to go sealed in that size, you gotta go "serious sealed" with something like the S3000i or the Seaton Submersive.
Note that after seeing the graph of the XS30se vs. the S3000i that I'm confident that for the BASH amp models, I would have ended up going ported in my room.
My room is 12 x 14 x 7.5 but open to the rest of the first floor at 2 openings, one of those is a very large opening that is also open to the stairway to 2nd floor. Not sealed in any way and that is the real reason I have been looking for more.
The single non se XS30 has done well here but there was no way to get real pressurization from it in this environment. Sure things would rattle and shake but no chest slam and that was the area that I found wanting more during action movies. Some like Into The Storm sounded great for the big storm scenes but other movies that should have effects that I feel just were not there. Lets face it, we are not talking about settling for less because its an entry level sub, I just think its just not right for the room and I am looking to get what I want if spending this kind of money.
Placement is good after trying the options available and using Anthem's sweeps to check output at each. I finally got REW up and running and the graph looks pretty damn good for a single sub (see below for uncorrected sweep). For the last year I have been talking with Tom periodically as well as researching the possibly of changing to quality ported duals that would handle music as well as movies. The addition of 3 210's set me back for at least 6 months as I focused on that area. Even now is not the best time to make a change but I am also realizing that the resale value of the XS30 is dropping as new options are coming to market with PSA as well as others like RA.
comparison of the V1500 and S3000i was invaluable to me and after some more interaction with Tom I think dual sealed is the way to go for me. When I told Tom that a big area that I thought was lacking was the "feel" of a kick drum that I get at live concerts. For Tom, last statement was the point that the dual S3000i really became be the likely answer for this room and that dual S1500 could be lacking. Cost is an object for me but at some point am I spending more by trying to making something work and chasing the elusive rainbow?
pointed out the S3000i is getting serious output in the whole spectrum and nalthien is right that in a larger area, sealed needs serious options like Seaton Submersive or similar. As 2 S3000i will equal almost 3 XS30se and almost 4 XS30 its time to put this to the test here. The only caveat is that my placement of duals is very limited and really hoping that 2 up front will work....we'll see how that pans out.