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I don't think it does much for phase/distance or whatever it is adjustments though. I looked through the manual and it says to let your AVR do that so it won't get the best combination of the two if your AVR doesn't have separate dual outs. Looking at the specs you just have 2 outputs one is a 180 phase adjustment from the other. It would be nice if it would adjust that independently between the two to find the best combination. I think that's where the 2.0 comes in.
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They have two models of the Antimode 8033 & the S2.

I think the next model will be a floorstander, the 410
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I have 8033 II-S, but what it does with duals or quad subs, it sums up their total response in the room and treat the signal to all of them as one and levels the amplitude and phase( it says on the site). After antimode is done with subs then you do AVR based EQ to integrate them with the rest of the speakers.
They say that Audyssey XT32 is similar if not better then antimode 8033, but with other AVR based EQ program antipode is beneficial.
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I have 8033 II-S, but what it does with duals or quad subs, it sums up their total response in the room and treat the signal to all of them as one and levels the amplitude and phase( it says on the site). After antimode is done with subs then you do AVR based EQ to integrate them with the rest of the speakers.
They say that Audyssey XT32 is similar if not better then antimode 8033, but with other AVR based EQ program antipode is beneficial.
Does the Dual Core 2.0 do all that the 8033 II-S does and more? TIA
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Does the Dual Core 2.0 do all that the 8033 II-S does and more? TIA
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It does more, it can separately EQ two subs ( true stereo subs), also has the screen where you can see the response graphs and it has more options for more detailed tweaking. it is also 3 times the price. But has excellent reviews

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It does more, it can separately EQ two subs ( true stereo subs), also has the screen where you can see the response graphs and it has more options for more detailed tweaking. it is also 3 times the price. But has excellent reviews
Right now I'm seriously thinking of going that route or upgrading my AVR to XT32 with SUB EQ HT. I have to weigh the differences, prices are similar to what I was planning on spending for an AVR, so I'll do a little more research and see what will give me the best options. Thanks.
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Right now I'm seriously thinking of going that route or upgrading my AVR to XT32 with SUB EQ HT. I have to weigh the differences, prices are similar to what I was planning on spending for an AVR, so I'll do a little more research and see what will give me the best options. Thanks.
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I suppose the benefit of the anti-mode is that it is a stand alone unit that you can keep as you(or anyone) endlessly upgrade your AVR over time as we tend to do. On the other hand, if you upgrade to a high quality AVR with XT32 and SUB EQ HT as you mention, which does independently set up dual subs, it does eliminate most of the need or benefit of a stand alone eq unit. Of course, the flexibility you get from external eq, imo, is adding in custom FR curves, such as house curves for below reference listening. Some people even program in strong house curves for reference level listening if they have enough output capability.

I used the miniDSP to put in about a 5 dB house curve when I was running my dual XV15se's. So in reality, when I was watching movies at my normal level of -15, the bass was only 5 below reference(5 dB hot plus a 5 dD house curve). This has the advantage of not muddying up the bass in the mid an upper bass levels. Ten hot over the entire FR would sound pretty bad.
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WHAT??? You don't think these speakers are aesthetically appealing?

Yeah they are a little utilitarian in looks but for some reason I really like the finish on them. I don't know why but there's something about it that I like. Having said that, I have them in a darker room and I doubt my wife would want them in the living room (but I wouldn't mind).

Bear, to answer your question it is the same finish as the subwoofers.
Don't get me wrong I personally love the way they look. Even though I have them hidden (except surrounds)

But they are not pretty speakers that most will have in a living room. Like psb imagines for example are a very pretty speaker
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I suppose the benefit of the anti-mode is that it is a stand alone unit that you can keep as you(or anyone) endlessly upgrade your AVR over time as we tend to do. On the other hand, if you upgrade to a high quality AVR with XT32 and SUB EQ HT as you mention, which does independently set up dual subs, it does eliminate most of the need or benefit of a stand alone eq unit. Of course, the flexibility you get from external eq, imo, is adding in custom FR curves, such as house curves for below reference listening. Some people even program in strong house curves for reference level listening if they have enough output capability.

I used the miniDSP to put in about a 5 dB house curve when I was running my dual XV15se's. So in reality, when I was watching movies at my normal level of -15, the bass was only 5 below reference(5 dB hot plus a 5 dD house curve). This has the advantage of not muddying up the bass in the mid an upper bass levels. Ten hot over the entire FR would sound pretty bad.
True, that is exactly what Anti-mode can do, run a certain frequency range hot ( 8dB hot centered at 20,25 or 30 Hz) , if desired, with a press of a button but with retained overall smoothing of the room response. I am still experimenting with what feels best, for movies now boosting frequencies around 20Hz, playing flat for music ( I run LFE at same level as the speakers). There is nice noticeable difference when movie mayhem starts.

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