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I was just thinking you were due for new subs
Yeah Randy, I had these dual XS30SEs for about six months, time to move on or get two more, one in each corner problem solved
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Grab two more I say! If I was a cabinet maker I'd patent a recliner with built in subs (underneath) for shear bearish impact... No bass shakers required then! Oh and it would have a fridge in one arm rest also!!!
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S1500 size comparison to the SB12 NSD. Have a SB13U coming in next week will be doing a performance comparison between the two. Will be keeping only one of the two after the comparison.

EDIT : s1500 not s3000
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S3000 size comparison to the SB12 NSD. Have a SB13U coming in next week will be doing a performance comparison between the two. Will be keeping only one of the two after the comparison.
Enjoy the S3000 then!
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S3000 size comparison to the SB12 NSD. Have a SB13U coming in next week will be doing a performance comparison between the two. Will be keeping only one of the two after the comparison.


Looking forward to reading your thoughts....I have a tiny inkling the S3000i will be staying... Seeing that it ( 3000i) digs even deeper & has better extension vs. my XS30se... I am fairly confident you'll love the 3000i.


See sig....not entirely sure on the dimensions of the new 3000i but you can see how the SB13U sits nicely atop my xs30 se.


Just my 2 cents...
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I'm looking for plug and play options after using REW to get the best FR graphs. like XT32 SUB EQ HT in the next week or so, either Denon 4520, Onkyo 1010 or Integra 60.5, I'm getting one of those three. Selling off my amps to fund these purchases and save up for a couple of V3600s when available
We should have the Anti-Mode products available before too long on the website too. They are about as "plug and play" as you can get..

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Looking forward to reading your thoughts....I have a tiny inkling the S3000i will be staying... Seeing that it ( 3000i) digs even deeper & has better extension vs. my XS30se... I am fairly confident you'll love the 3000i.


See sig....not entirely sure on the dimensions of the new 3000i but you can see how the SB13U sits nicely atop my xs30 se.


Just my 2 cents...
Sorry for the typo I have an s1500 not 3000.

I will do do my best to provide as much information as possible. Right now I am running the s1500 in a not so ideal location with some very small speakers crossed over at 150hz.

Next week I will have the ultra and s1500 paired with larger bookshelfs ( svs ultra 5.0 ). Tip my hat off to PSA the s1500 is a high quality product, the driver and amp are top notch. I was able to get a good deal on the svs ultra which made it make sense to buy and compare to the 1500 and keep the one I feel is best for my situation. Now the svs overall design might already gives it an edge because I will be running duals and aesthetics is an important component of my decision. With that said the PSA is a heck of lot easier to keep clean and maintain and personally I like the look, wife feels differently tho.
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We should have the Anti-Mode products available before too long on the website too. They are about as "plug and play" as you can get..

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Tom can you elaborate a little about how you tested these and what the results were?

Do you think they are a fit in all applications, or just some small rooms, single sub vs. multi subs?
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Tom can you elaborate a little about how you tested these and what the results were?

Do you think they are a fit in all applications, or just some small rooms, single sub vs. multi subs?
I've spent a good bit of time with both the 8033 models. I've done a mix of single sub, single seat and single sub, multiple seats. I hope to have some time soon to try dual subs/single seat and dual subs/multiple seats soon with both 8033s.

The dual core is a different beast altogether. Much more flexible than I thought. It can EQ dual subs in a 5.2 system(or 7.2 or 9.2), or a 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2 system. The dual core 2.0 will also highpass the mains in this scenario too. So it will provide DAC, highpass, and EQ the speakers and the subs. Pretty sweet little box.

http://www.dspeaker.com/en/technolog...examples.shtml

I can already envision some 2.0 MT110 and MTM210 package deals.

Based on my experience so far I'd say these products will provide audible benefits to just about any room environment. We'll do the normal 30 day audition too so our customers can all try them out and make their own decision.

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Sorry for the typo I have an s1500 not 3000.

I will do do my best to provide as much information as possible. Right now I am running the s1500 in a not so ideal location with some very small speakers crossed over at 150hz.

Next week I will have the ultra and s1500 paired with larger bookshelfs ( svs ultra 5.0 ). Tip my hat off to PSA the s1500 is a high quality product, the driver and amp are top notch. I was able to get a good deal on the svs ultra which made it make sense to buy and compare to the 1500 and keep the one I feel is best for my situation. Now the svs overall design might already gives it an edge because I will be running duals and aesthetics is an important component of my decision. With that said the PSA is a heck of lot easier to keep clean and maintain and personally I like the look, wife feels differently tho.
Ah...that will make for a much fairer comparison...dimensions are about the same for both...fit and finish is a personal choice. I've seen the black texture used on the PSA, its very nice & appears maintenance free. Not a big fan of PB gloss as they're dust magnets the alternate finish used by Svs is more my style...one reason why I chose PSA was the veneer options available for that wife approval factor.

Good luck and report back your finding...I really enjoyed the SB13U...by all accounts the S1500 should be very bit its equal or more...it will be a tough call...flip of the coin, that's for sure.

Bill...
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Got a chance to mess with REW a bit this weekend and tried my XV15se in two different placements (left & right corners).

Got some measurements with and without MCACC applied (measured separately for each corner). Are these graphs good enough to evaluate and which corner is better? I haven't had time to listen extensively for one corner compared to the other...

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Without EQ, I was getting some crazy drops.

Left No EQ


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I'm not overly experienced in equalising but the left looks better and I gather the gigantic dip at 80hz is the xover?
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I'm not overly experienced in equalising but the left looks better and I gather the gigantic dip at 80hz is the xover?
Nope; looks like a null. If it were the crossover, it wouldn't recover quickly to the same SPL as under 80hz


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Ah...that will make for a much fairer comparison...dimensions are about the same for both...fit and finish is a personal choice. I've seen the black texture used on the PSA, its very nice & appears maintenance free. Not a big fan of PB gloss as they're dust magnets the alternate finish used by Svs is more my style...one reason why I chose PSA was the veneer options available for that wife approval factor.

Good luck and report back your finding...I really enjoyed the SB13U...by all accounts the S1500 should be very bit its equal or more...it will be a tough call...flip of the coin, that's for sure.

Bill...
A much fairer comparison indeed, for movies. I still think the SB13-Ultra will give either PSA sub a run for its money with music . For movies, the S1500 is a much better value than the $1600 Ultra. It’s also surprising how much more the Ultra weighs compared to the S1500.

I too like the PSA finish on my XS30. It’s durable and looks much better than I thought it would. But I love the piano black of the Ultra. It just takes a few seconds to gently wipe it down with a microfiber cloth towel.
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A much fairer comparison indeed, for movies. I still think the SB13-Ultra will give either PSA sub a run for its money with music . For movies, the S1500 is a much better value than the $1600 Ultra. It’s also surprising how much more the Ultra weighs compared to the S1500.

I too like the PSA finish on my XS30. It’s durable and looks much better than I thought it would. But I love the piano black of the Ultra. It just takes a few seconds to gently wipe it down with a microfiber cloth towel.
Yes sir...that Ultra is beastly...it alone almost weights as much as the S1500 but that isn't everything.

My 12" Acoustic Elegance (~40lbs) highly efficient with only 500w amp, (1K capable) which included a huge magnet + motor structure with around 22.5mm linear xmax. Still very difficult to distinguish any sonic advantages it held over lesser drivers or subs...of course these were larger & more capable subs...not your average run of the mill 12".

Anyhow...the 13U is a tremendous sub....
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Nope; looks like a null. If it were the crossover, it wouldn't recover quickly to the same SPL as under 80hz
There you go, that's why forums are excellent! I was thinking it was a changeover from the Sub to the FL speaker!
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Looking forward to reading your thoughts....I have a tiny inkling the S3000i will be staying... Seeing that it ( 3000i) digs even deeper & has better extension vs. my XS30se... I am fairly confident you'll love the 3000i.


See sig....not entirely sure on the dimensions of the new 3000i but you can see how the SB13U sits nicely atop my xs30 se.


Just my 2 cents...
I’m in a bit of a quandary concerning my PSA sub. I was thinking about auditioning the S3000i, but I don’t think it will integrate well with my XS30. If I update my XS30 with “se” drivers and the new amp/dsp, I think it would integrate much better with the S3000i. But then, I’d be nearing Seaton territory as far as price is concerned . When I face that type of dilemma, I usually back off and say, “good is good enough.” . Especially for movies.
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No no it's not. Enough is when you see the shock wave incoming...
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Is there a reason there are no veneer options for the S3000i?
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Is there a reason there are no veneer options for the S3000i?
I don't think the website has been updated yet.

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