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Great to hear since the PB12-Plus was the first sub I was seriously considering buying. I thought I HAD to get a gloss black sub to match my speakers due to WAF. However, when I actually talked to my wife about it (not to mention show her the price difference) she was fine going with the standard finish XS30se. I love it and will have all the bass I ever need once I get a second one.
Don't get me wrong, the SVS is a gorgeous sub in that piano black finish. High, high WAF. But the XS30se is a better sub in every respect; the sealed sound is much more agreeable to my ears I find as well, even for movies.

Besides, the finishes on the PSA subs are pretty A-1 anyway. Did you ever think of going with a grain finish? I'm happy I did (over the standard flat black).

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That is a really nice set-up you have! Looks compact and comfortable!
Thanks, I love it, it's turned out better than I thought it would to be honest; compact and comfortable is a perfect way to describe it.

I wish I had the money and space for a top drawer JVC projector, or something similar, but I can't really complain too much about my Kuro.
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Don't get me wrong, the SVS is a gorgeous sub in that piano black finish. High, high WAF. But the XS30se is a better sub in every respect; the sealed sound is much more agreeable to my ears I find as well, even for movies.

Besides, the finishes on the PSA subs are pretty A-1 anyway. Did you ever think of going with a grain finish? I'm happy I did (over the standard flat black).

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No. I can't stand black wood grain finish for some reason.

If I were to go with a premium PSA finish it would be American Cherry. Still waiting to hear if their speakers will ever be offered in the premium finishes.

Edit: My sub is the standard finish.
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No. I can't stand black wood grain finish for some reason.

If I were to go with a premium PSA finish it would be American Cherry. Still waiting to hear if their speakers will ever be offered in the premium finishes.

Edit: My sub is the standard finish.
I really really like the PSA durable finish (a lot actually). But I agree with you, if I were to do a premium finish it would be the cherry. Luckily in my basement (my happy little man cave) there is not need for such silly aesthetics. I just need premium sound and my PSA subs and speakers deliver that with no problem.
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No. I can't stand black wood grain finish for some reason.

If I were to go with a premium PSA finish it would be American Cherry. Still waiting to hear if their speakers will ever be offered in the premium finishes.

Edit: My sub is the standard finish.
We're hoping to find the time to get veneer quotes for the speakers soon. Right now, finishing up the details on the V3600 is taking all of our engineering time. We do get inquires about this daily though so we'll try to find the time asap!

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I know what you mean, the 110s in stereo creates an incredible sound stage, I'm still blown away by the imaging. I also love their mid-bass punch.
That's the area I am afraid of losing some response. I will be bringing this discussion over to the speaker thread as well

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That's the area I am afraid of losing some response. I will be bringing this discussion over to the speaker thread as well
I asked Tom about this and he said the difference between the 210s and the 110s mid-bass punch would be difficult to notice.
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I asked Tom about this and he said the difference between the 210s and the 110s mid-bass punch would be difficult to notice.
Mid bass punch....or any other subjective descriptor of a loudspeaker for that matter....is going to largely be determined by the FR and how it changes with volume. This includes on/off axis dispersion. With quality subs in play, you're going to be well covered into the 100-120hz range barring something unusual. So with main channel speakers we're usually talking about the 150-500hz range in terms of "mid bass". This IS a very important range of frequencies that can affect the sound of just about every (common) musical instrument.

http://www.independentrecording.net/...in_display.htm

The MTM210s are about 4dB more efficient. But this is only going to be audible if your amp cannot push the MT110s to needed output levels. At 94dB(mt110) this would be an unusual problem.

The real key is the crossover quality/design. The woofer size(or number) really isn't going to play a role until the volume levels begin to cause some sort of compression in the woofer(thermal, linear excursion). Same goes for ported versus sealed....contrary to misinformation posted in the past.....this isn't going to matter except incidentally to the factors above. A sealed design will have inherent advantages over a ported design but their "mid bass punch" really isn't involved.

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Get um while there hot. B/C stock subs up for grabs

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xs15 for 599!!!! woah!

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Of course this shows up after I just purchased a PC12 (499.00)for my garage. That XS15 would of fit nicely.

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The Pinnacle ain't doin't it for you anymore bh?

I still got mine in my office and love it...of course, it's only about 600 cu. ft.
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The Pinnacle ain't doin't it for you anymore bh?

I still got mine in my office and love it...of course, it's only about 600 cu. ft.
No it does great but I am moving it to the PC and ditching the ****ty logitech system that crapped out.
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Just placed my order for another pair of XS15se's.
Purchased my first pair back in July 2014.

Tom, there was no place on the online order form to leave a note.
Last time there was, why did you drop that feature?
I just wanted to remind you, that I should be entitled to a 5% off discount.

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Just placed my order for another pair of XS15se's.
Purchased my first pair back in July 2014.

Tom, there was no place on the online order form to leave a note.
Last time there was, why did you drop that feature?
I just wanted to remind you, that I should be entitled to a 5% off discount.

congrats!! 4 should be saawweeett..

I just placed a couple orders in the last week and that option was there for me...odd...give him a call..he will help you out

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Just placed my order for another pair of XS15se's.
Purchased my first pair back in July 2014.

Tom, there was no place on the online order form to leave a note.
Last time there was, why did you drop that feature?
I just wanted to remind you, that I should be entitled to a 5% off discount.
We do have a note option in there somewhere as I get notes all the time on orders for being so awesome...

We're shipping today with the noted discount Timcat. Send me a note with the preferred size and we'll pack a shirt in for you too. Anyone with 4 of our woofs needs a shirt!

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We do have a note option in there somewhere as I get notes all the time on orders for being so awesome...

We're shipping today with the noted discount Timcat. Send me a note with the preferred size and we'll pack a shirt in for you too. Anyone with 4 of our woofs needs a shirt!

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Any MTM 110/110C owners out there care to share their impressions with me? Especially a picture of what they look like in a real room? I really want to see what the 110C looks like as well since I wont be going with a AT screen just yet.


Since my wife and I aren't buying our first house for another year, my brain is going nuts with what speakers I should get when I get my movie/gaming room. I know money is going to be really tight, so I was eyeing the SVS Prime Towers, Center, and 2 bookshelves for a 5 speaker system. However, I am extremely intrigued by the high efficiency speakers that PSA offers. I can get my LCR and add the surrounds at a later time. In the long run, with my strict movie/gaming only style, I'm thinking that HE speakers would be the better money spent (assuming I like the sound of course). Coming from Polk TSI speakers, I'm sure I'd be blown away by either option. My room with be for 99% movie/tv watching and gaming. I will just be going with a Denon 4100 or equal to power them. Anyone care to share what these MTM 110's look and sound like?

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Na na na na na Hey Batman,

Check out page 63 of the speaker thread:

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FYI, I went from Polk 65ts to the PSA 210s. You're in for a treat.
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Any MTM 110/110C owners out there care to share their impressions with me? Especially a picture of what they look like in a real room? I really want to see what the 110C looks like as well since I wont be going with a AT screen just yet.


Since my wife and I aren't buying our first house for another year, my brain is going nuts with what speakers I should get when I get my movie/gaming room. I know money is going to be really tight, so I was eyeing the SVS Prime Towers, Center, and 2 bookshelves for a 5 speaker system. However, I am extremely intrigued by the high efficiency speakers that PSA offers. I can get my LCR and add the surrounds at a later time. In the long run, with my strict movie/gaming only style, I'm thinking that HE speakers would be the better money spent (assuming I like the sound of course). Coming from Polk TSI speakers, I'm sure I'd be blown away by either option. My room with be for 99% movie/tv watching and gaming. I will just be going with a Denon 4100 or equal to power them. Anyone care to share what these MTM 110's look and sound like?
Batman I answered your question and included a photo but I posted it in the PSA speaker thread.
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Batman I answered your question and included a photo but I posted it in the PSA speaker thread.

Hey thanks Hop. I'll try to find it.

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Hi, all - looking for a little guidance/input on the next PSA addition to my system.

Note: my room is just under 3,000 cu ft, non-dedicated, mainly sealed, in the basement, with carpeted floor. Two young kids, so typical listening levels generally nowhere near reference - moderate to low.

Currently have an XS15SE, which I got back around October of last year, I believe. I went with sealed based on Tom's recommendations for the anticipated room gain for my particular room. Enjoying this one to date.

Now, I have always coveted duals. I strongly contemplated just going dual at the time I bought the single XS15SE, but due to WAF restrictions, I resisted. But now the bug is back

So, I've thought about a couple of different scenarios for addition/upgrade:

1) Just add another XS15SE - this seems pretty straightforward, although this will in fact cost me more than the first one because I am in Canada and the exchange rate has shifted significantly since I purchased my first.

2) Add an XS30SE - I have a possible line on a gently used unit, about the same age as my XS15SE, which is already in Canada. Shipped to my door, the price would be less than $200 (Canadian) more than what a new factory XS15SE unit would cost me. One of my main concerns with this option is the two different models playing nicely together. It has been suggested they can/should, but I don't know if I'm convinced Maybe the addition of a MiniDSP or Antimode would be required/suggested?

3) Sell my current XS15SE and order 2 x S1500's. This would likely be the most expensive option, depending on how much I could actually get for my current unit. Plus it also has the lowest WAF, as subtracting to add is never "understood" by her I would really only do this if there would be significant benefits from doing so - which is what I don't know. The room size adjustment is an interesting feature, as is the added power of the new units. However, given my typical listening levels, I don't know whether I would get noticeable upgrade here?

Thoughts?

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IMHO I would go with option #2 . they 100% will work together...and its the cheapest\\next option would be #1 second cheapest and very straightforward (i think there is ione in the outlet too for extremly cheap)

none of those three options is wrong...it all depends on what route you are willing to go...($$, WAF etc)

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IMHO I would go with option #2 . they 100% will work together...and its the cheapest\\next option would be #1 second cheapest and very straightforward (i think there is ione in the outlet too for extremly cheap)

none of those three options is wrong...it all depends on what route you are willing to go...($$, WAF etc)

Thanks.

Yeah, saw that XS15SE in the outlet; but my 5% repeat discount on a new one would be basically the same, and it would be new. Shipping to Canada + taxes + exchange are what really get me - an XS15SE ends up costing about $1,250 CAD!!


Also, does anybody know if you can/should use a UMIK-1 with an Antimode 8033s-II? Or is the UMIK-1 only for REW?

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Grab the XS30se and place the XS15se nearfield...they should play seamlessly together setup this way.

The UMIK-1 is designed for measuring software. Antimode has its own deal for measuring the room. I would still get familiar with REW so you can see the pre and post EQ results.

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Thanks.

Also, does anybody know if you can/should use a UMIK-1 with an Antimode 8033s-II? Or is the UMIK-1 only for REW?
Not sure but I think Antimode prefers it's own mic, and it is not USB

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Not sure but I think Antimode prefers it's own mic, and it is not USB

Thanks. Just asking as I have a UMIK-1 (still nestled snuggly in its box, where it has been since I ordered it) already; planned to do some REW stuff but haven't gotten around to it.

Guess I'll now have to also investigate the differences between MiniDSP vs. Antimode vs. SMS...

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