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I decided to try out the S3000i to see how it compares to my XS30, and ordered it today. I’d like to thank many of the people here for their input on this particular sub. A special thank you to Billy P and Nalthien for their many inputs and their willingness to test out a certain track of music for me (Billy P for his input on the XS30se vs SVS SB13-Ultra, and Nalthien for his input on the S3000i vs V1500). Whether I keep this sub or not, I think it will be an interesting 30 days.
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Awesome! I'm excited to hear your impressions, dsrussell. This will be fun!

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I decided to try out the S3000i to see how it compares to my XS30, and ordered it today. I’d like to thank many of the people here for their input on this particular sub. A special thank you to Billy P and Nalthien for their many inputs and their willingness to test out a certain track of music for me (Billy P for his input on the XS30se vs SVS SB13-Ultra, and Nalthien for his input on the S3000i vs V1500). Whether I keep this sub or not, I think it will be an interesting 30 days.
This should be interesting the S3000i should be ahead SPL wise and have better sound quality. I can't wait to hear your impressions.

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Cesar and oneeyeblind: Thanks for the posts . Yes, I think it will be an interesting period of testing, although my optimism is guarded. I do think the S3000i will be an improvement both for movies and music, but I am certainly not expecting it to be a major improvement. The XS30 in my room performs better today than when I bought it almost 2 years ago. It is no slouch in the movie LFE department, but not quite what I was looking for in music.

Although this sub will be used primarily for movie LFE, I do occasionally play music CDs and SACDs and have over 2 dozen concert videos. And I test every subwoofer I use for music first and foremost. If it’s great for music, it will be great for movies. But 95 percent of the time all my music is played in another room with another sub (a 2.1 configuration). And I do NOT expect the S3000i to match the sub I use for music. I only expect it to be noticeably better than my XS30. Here's hoping .
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I noticed more output and improved sound when I went from a XS30 to a XS30SE. The biggest difference to my ears between these 2 models was the sound factor especially with music favoring the XS30SE. We all know the S3000i has more output than the XS30Se, I believe from 16hz to 25hz there is only 1 db difference though.
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Something like 20 wide, 23 deep and 24.5(?) tall on the last proto type. We may try one more and try to reign things in a 1/4 here and a 1/2" there without losing performance.

I'll measure the current unit before leaving work tonight.

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This is an interesting question to me. Previously I had been running dual XV15se's. Now I'm running the V3600 and a XV15se together (the XV15se is for smoothing purposes).

I know the XV15se and the V1500 are different subs but I may be able to help with your question anyway. You got me thinking so I experimented by taking my XV15se out of the loop and just played my V3600 by itself.

I played some heavy bass demo scenes to see how much a single V3600 differed from the days when I watched the same scenes with dual XV15se's running (allow me to point out I'm very familiar with these scenes). The dual XV15se's never came close to producing the rattling and shaking in my basement that the V3600 does. Nor did they ever pressurize the room like the V3600 seems to.

I know this is not a scientific method of testing and I know the V1500 is a little more powerful than the XV15se but I don't think they are SO different that some lessons can't be be applied. And the dual XV15se's never had the output that I'm experiencing with the V3600 (even when playing by itself).

Take this for what it's worth, I know it doesn't perfectly answer your question but it might give you some kind of idea.
you know, i have been watching all your posts lately hop because just as you used to have, i currently have dual xv15se's which i very much love. of course, when the v3600 came out i couldn't contain the drooling that was occurring. i thought i was going to have to hang a bucket around my neck just to keep the floors dry. when i found out you were getting one, i was kinda excited because i couldn't wait to hear your impressions in comparing the old to the new. several posts went by and while you said you loved it, you never directly compared the two. at first i was ok with that because even though i was curious, it kept me thinking that what i have is just fine.


now i wish i hadn't read the above post. sigh......

this thread is going to be the death of me.
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Cesar and oneeyeblind: Thanks for the posts . Yes, I think it will be an interesting period of testing, although my optimism is guarded. I do think the S3000i will be an improvement both for movies and music, but I am certainly not expecting it to be a major improvement. The XS30 in my room performs better today than when I bought it almost 2 years ago. It is no slouch in the movie LFE department, but not quite what I was looking for in music.

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Definitely interested in your opinions here...it should be a fun month.

Now the more important and technical question-Square or Rounded grills (I'm thinking square, like your XS30)
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Definitely interested in your opinions here...it should be a fun month.

Now the more important and technical question-Square or Rounded grills (I'm thinking square, like your XS30)
LOL! To tell you the truth, I didn't even specify the grille. I don't know what the heck I'll be getting . Perhaps I should contact Tom and give him my preference before he ships ... duh .

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LOL! To tell you the truth, I didn't even specify the grille. I don't know what the heck I'll be getting . Perhaps I should contact Tom and give him my preference before he ships ... duh .
I'd say 95-99% of our subwoofer orders go with the traditional grills so I think Jim just removed the curved options from the website.

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I'd say 95-99% of our subwoofer orders go with the traditional grills so I think Jim just removed the curved options from the website.

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Thanks, Tom. Yes, the traditional grille is more applicable (or more my style) at my age .

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Something like 20 wide, 23 deep and 24.5(?) tall on the last proto type. We may try one more and try to reign things in a 1/4 here and a 1/2" there without losing performance.

I'll measure the current unit before leaving work tonight.

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One quick shot. Very, very busy days this week. We just had our biggest single sales day today---end of June. This is supposed be the "quiet time" for CE/ID sales. Not complaining mind you...

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One quick shot. Very, very busy days this week. We just had our biggest single sales day today---end of June. This is supposed be the "quiet time" for CE/ID sales. Not complaining mind you...

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Sweet! Congrats on being so busy, you deserve it for sure!
BTW, what has been a bigger seller, the S3000i or V3600i?
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It puts the subwoofers together and ships them or it gets the hose again...
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you know, i have been watching all your posts lately hop because just as you used to have, i currently have dual xv15se's which i very much love. of course, when the v3600 came out i couldn't contain the drooling that was occurring. i thought i was going to have to hang a bucket around my neck just to keep the floors dry. when i found out you were getting one, i was kinda excited because i couldn't wait to hear your impressions in comparing the old to the new. several posts went by and while you said you loved it, you never directly compared the two. at first i was ok with that because even though i was curious, it kept me thinking that what i have is just fine.


now i wish i hadn't read the above post. sigh......

this thread is going to be the death of me.
Ooops… Sorry. But I know what you mean about this thread.

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Wow...that room some much more accommodating for demos...what you guys do the the behemoth that occupied that entire corner...lol. I don't suppose somebody fitted that thing in the back of their SUV and drove off...

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