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How does the Rythmik f25 compare to the monster PSA v3600?
It doesn't...not a apples to apples comparison.

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How does the Rythmik f25 compare to the monster PSA v3600?
It doesn't...not a apples to apples comparison.
Hummmmmm...Excuse my ignorance, but can you give me your opinion on both. I'm new to the HT universe would the extra $750 give me that much porformance ? After reading thread after thread for PSA, SVS, Rythmik, and HSU. I have narrowed it down to 3 companies and 3 subs.

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1. PSA 3000 American cherry
2. HSU VTF 15 MK rosenut
3. Rythmik f25 black oak

Subs will either go into a 1800 cubic ft space or 7000 cubic ft space. Maybe I should wait for the v1800??? Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is
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You should wait until you figure out which room the subs are going in. 1800^3 I would go for the 3000i. In a 7000^3 room I would go for the V3600i.

Your wife needs to see the finish in person...it really does not look any different then black oak from a distance. Sure up close it is different but how often will you spend looking at the subs up close?

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Hummmmmm...Excuse my ignorance, but can you give me your opinion on both. I'm new to the HT universe would the extra $750 give me that much porformance ? After reading thread after thread for PSA, SVS, Rythmik, and HSU. I have narrowed it down to 3 companies and 3 subs.

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1. PSA 3000 American cherry
2. HSU VTF 15 MK rosenut
3. Rythmik f25 black oak

Subs will either go into a 1800 cubic ft space or 7000 cubic ft space. Maybe I should wait for the v1800??? Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is
I would stick with a sealed sub, XS30SE or S3000I for the 1800 cubic ft room but if you decide on using the 7000 cubic ft room then go with the ported/ vented options, dual v1800 or V3600 ( if finish options meet your needs ).

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Hummmmmm...Excuse my ignorance, but can you give me your opinion on both. I'm new to the HT universe would the extra $750 give me that much porformance ? After reading thread after thread for PSA, SVS, Rythmik, and HSU. I have narrowed it down to 3 companies and 3 subs.

Duals:
1. PSA 3000 American cherry
2. HSU VTF 15 MK rosenut
3. Rythmik f25 black oak

Subs will either go into a 1800 cubic ft space or 7000 cubic ft space. Maybe I should wait for the v1800??? Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is
Hey Jared,

I think you should first decide on what room you want to 'bass-ify'. Those are two VASTLY different listening spaces and what may be suitable for one could be insufficient for the other. As Tom wrote in an earlier post:

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1) The first priority should always your headroom requirements.

It doesn't matter if you have extension to 5hz and stellar sound quality potential...if the sub(s) will regularly be pushed to their absolute limits.

2)Once it is clear you'll have ample headroom, then you should go for extension.


So let's use a generic 2500 cu-ft room(more or less closed off from the rest of the home). End user enjoys the bass to be 3-5dB "hot", and is looking for headroom for say....-10dB master volume levels.

You'll be around 112-115dB.

So don't prioritize the extension of a single XS30se over the output of say a V1500/V1800 if the system will be fed a steady diet of action oriented movies.

On the OTHER hand. If we're looking at DUALs for this room. I'd swing back to two XS30se. You'll have plenty of headroom, deeper extension, and potentially an edge in sound quality as well.
Jared, I have only dealt with one of the aforementioned companies in your list. However, after listening to my S3000i and dealing with Tom off and on for about a year now, I wouldn't even need to think about the others. I believe he'd even send you a fully-finished wood sample if you so desired! There is a lot to be said about the peace-of-mind that is offered when dealing with PSA. I have no doubts or hesitations; I know that if I don't like something, I can return it quickly and easily.

Before I bought my subs, I also considered the F25. I love the look of dual forward-facing drivers - they are so menacing and daunting to look at, but with the launch of the V3600i, go big or go home, right?
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Okay I've been playing around a lot with REW the last three days and I have got a better response with my two subs than I had earlier. I'll take any comments anyone cares to offer. the problem is I seem to be getting a dip right around the crossover.

However, I think I found a better position for my 2nd sub (nearfield) where I can get a flatter response but to keep it there I need a longer sub cable so I'll be ordering that today.

In the mean time I'll post a graph showing the dual XV15se's (purple) vs a XV15se running with a V3600 (blue). Subs are in the same position in both setups.


Have you tried the sub distance tweak Hop??
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Hey...guys here is a picture of the xs30se, SubM & RA 218...this should give you some perspective....

I have to wait and see if a new thread is started....going by some of the feedback I received the SubM is the real deal and my sub seemed to lack some of the tactile presence but upon further inspection back home I saw the gain was set at the noon position and I had it set at the 2-3pm position...this could explain some of why my sub seemed to lack some of the SPL to fill that GTG room. Keep in mind our room have about the same amount of cubic air space to fill but the SubM would have been the pick of the day for music and the 218 dominated both for ULF....not surprised going by its size and what it was meant to accomplish.





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Hey...guys here is a picture of the xs30se, SubM & RA 218...this should give you some perspective....





That is a much nicer picture than my cell phone one in the Reaction thread. I have to admit that the finish on the XS30se really was beautiful, if we did a wife test i'm sure the XS30se would win by miles!
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That is a much nicer picture than my cell phone one in the Reaction thread. I have to admit that the finish on the XS30se really was beautiful, if we did a wife test i'm sure the XS30se would win by miles!

Nikko sent it to me...for me to post it in the RA thread...but you beat to to the punch...lol.


I wonder who belonged to those feet....
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Nikko sent it to me...for me to post it in the RA thread...but you beat to to the punch...lol.


I wonder who belonged to those feet....
Haha yea I think that might be Nikko's feet?

We really need to get on posting about listening impressions though. Unfortunately I wasn't around to hear the XS30se but I did get to hear my SubM against the Gamma 218.
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Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is
If you dress up your sub with a table runner then I am sure your wife would approve.
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Hummmmmm...Excuse my ignorance, but can you give me your opinion on both. I'm new to the HT universe would the extra $750 give me that much porformance ? After reading thread after thread for PSA, SVS, Rythmik, and HSU. I have narrowed it down to 3 companies and 3 subs.

Duals:
1. PSA 3000 American cherry
2. HSU VTF 15 MK rosenut
3. Rythmik f25 black oak

Subs will either go into a 1800 cubic ft space or 7000 cubic ft space. Maybe I should wait for the v1800??? Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is

Nope I don't know how it is. My wife loves the finish!! I would do the s3000i in the smaller room and I would do 2 s3000i's in the bigger room. I have always had ported subs and now I went sealed with the s3000i and it just sounds so much better and it has better control then a ported sub. Click image for larger version

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Hummmmmm...Excuse my ignorance, but can you give me your opinion on both. I'm new to the HT universe would the extra $750 give me that much porformance ? After reading thread after thread for PSA, SVS, Rythmik, and HSU. I have narrowed it down to 3 companies and 3 subs.

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1. PSA 3000 American cherry
2. HSU VTF 15 MK rosenut
3. Rythmik f25 black oak

Subs will either go into a 1800 cubic ft space or 7000 cubic ft space. Maybe I should wait for the v1800??? Finish is a big factor. Size not so much. I would consider the v3600 but the only finish option is black texture and the wife didn't approve. You guys know how that is

Nope I don't know how it is. My wife loves the finish!! I would do the s3000i in the smaller room and I would do 2 s3000i's in the bigger room. I have always had ported subs and now I went sealed with the s3000i and it just sounds so much better and it has better control then a ported sub. [iurl="http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=815794&d=1436202745"][/iurl]
Edit: The pictures on the PSA site do not do the finish justice. It looks a lot better in person.

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I like it! I would do the 30 trial, but i know she is going to bitch about the finish. That's why I don't consider the 1500's. Your a lucky man!
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Talking Just bought the XS15se

Guys, i finally ordered my XS15se. As usual Tom helped me on deciding wich one was better for my needs. Now i can't wait to get it !!!!!! I am so happy
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I like it! I would do the 30 trial, but i know she is going to bitch about the finish. That's why I don't consider the 1500's. Your a lucky man!
My wife didn't like the house that we bought last year when she saw the pictures. When I convinced her that we really need to see it in person she loved it!!! Have one one shipped to you with no obligation. Tom and Jim make it easy to ship back. Sorry I'll stop now but you have no idea how good these subs really are!!

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After messing with settings and everything else it was the RCA cable. I think! Well, i plugged in the other RCA cable from the other sub and it worked fine after that. Thanks for all your help! Im getting better bass now it scares me now to buy dual PSA subs!
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