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^ Yep. That about sums up life with a V3600 in the house.

Congratulations again on your new toy Dig.

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Any Neil Blomkamp fans here? Shoot me a PM and I'll send you UV codes for Chappie, Elysium and District 9 (from the Blomkamp3 digibook).


EDIT: Also... any of these have good soundtracks? I watched them a while back, but can't recall.

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Any Neil Blomkamp fans here? Shoot me a PM and I'll send you UV codes for Chappie, Elysium and District 9 (from the Blomkamp3 digibook).


EDIT: Also... any of these have good soundtracks? I watched them a while back, but can't recall.
I haven't seen Chappie but my understanding is that it has pretty decent bass. Elysium also definitely has good bass. District 9 not as much.
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So I got some new toys in the last few days. 3 210s for my front stage (will upgrade my surrounds soon) and a 3600 sub that will replace my PB12/2 Ultra (and I will use along with my 3 PB13s). Thought this was a cool photo showing my old JBL S-38 next to the 210 and 3600.

Have not had time to hook up and calibrate the new speakers/sub and probably wont until the weekend. I can say the build quality of both is absolutely fantastic! Both the sub and 210 (have only cracked open 1 so far) scream quality and have that no F'n around lets get down to business type look. I also LOVE the all black look which goes right along with my black hole HT. Looking forward to getting everything setup! The sub is a monster!
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@Alan , let me ask you something, when did this problem start, has it been on going and you just weren't aware of it until now. Both plugs on the same circuit will cause both subs to react that way, it's definitely not a power cord issue. Take the mini cooper out of the chain and see what happens.. Also if it's not the mini it has to be an issue with that circuit, grounding maybe..stop back and report and we'll get this resolved..
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Thank you! I have grown to hate that EoT intro for the exact reasons you mention. In the context of the film, it is so out of place IMO that it truly feels like it is a mistake.
This describes my exact feelings of that scene. I borrowed the movie from a friend purely to watch that scene, and there must be something wrong with me because I didn't like it. The pressure was palpable to say the least, but what the heck, it's going off during some sort of newscast lol. Lame. On the plus side my XV15se's really crushed the room during that scene, so I am happy about that part.

I did enjoy the actual movie though, I was able to really relate to it based on some challenging video games I used to play.


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Thanks Jeff.

Both subs are plugged into separate outlets, but the same circuit/same wall.

When I pulled the plug on one sub (just a little to get it to "scratch"), the scratchy noise would come from both subs at the same time. I could get them to do this no matter which sub I "pulled" the plug on. Makes me think it is something else in the chain interacting...maybe that stupid MiniDSP again.

Trying a different outlet (without using an extension cord) would not be easy....I'd have to push the T-18 across the room...again.

I thought about removing the MiniDSP from the chain to test the theory that it is causing issues, but haven't got around to it. Also, the issue seems to have resolved itself while the subs are "at rest". I was reading again last night and didn't hear a peep out of the subs.

I'll do some more testing in the next day or two and report back.
Slightly off topic Alan, but what type of line do you have the T18's plugged into? 15A? 20A?
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So I got some new toys in the last few days. 3 210s for my front stage (will upgrade my surrounds soon) and a 3600 sub that will replace my PB12/2 Ultra (and I will use along with my 3 PB13s). Thought this was a cool photo showing my old JBL S-38 next to the 210 and 3600.

Have not had time to hook up and calibrate the new speakers/sub and probably wont until the weekend. I can say the build quality of both is absolutely fantastic! Both the sub and 210 (have only cracked open 1 so far) scream quality and have that no F'n around lets get down to business type look. I also LOVE the all black look which goes right along with my black hole HT. Looking forward to getting everything setup! The sub is a monster!
That's great Toe. I've been wondering when you were going to receive your packages of new toys. I hope you can get it all set up soon because like I said before, I'm really looking forward to reading your impressions once you get everything set up.
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This describes my exact feelings of that scene. I borrowed the movie from a friend purely to watch that scene, and there must be something wrong with me because I didn't like it. The pressure was palpable to say the least, but what the heck, it's going off during some sort of newscast lol. Lame. On the plus side my XV15se's really crushed the room during that scene, so I am happy about that part.

I did enjoy the actual movie though, I was able to really relate to it based on some challenging video games I used to play.
Fatty I agree with your thoughts. But I must confess, the first time I heard that opening scene I found it intriguing. But that feeling wore off almost immediately and now I scratch my head as to why it even exists. But I like the movie itself. I won't say it's one of my favorite but I like the movie quit a bit.

Hmmm….Now that I think about it I haven't watched Oblivion or EOT with the new V3600 in place. I think I just found a weekend project.
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That's great Toe. I've been wondering when you were going to receive your packages of new toys. I hope you can get it all set up soon because like I said before, I'm really looking forward to reading your impressions once you get everything set up.

Thanks Hop and sounds good! I will be sure to report back after I get everything up and running.

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Fatty I agree with your thoughts. But I must confess, the first time I heard that opening scene I found it intriguing. But that feeling wore off almost immediately and now I scratch my head as to why it even exists. But I like the movie itself. I won't say it's one of my favorite but I like the movie quit a bit.

Hmmm….Now that I think about it I haven't watched Oblivion or EOT with the new V3600 in place. I think I just found a weekend project.
Sounds like a fun project Hop. I bet those scenes are brutal on the v3600. Seeing reviews like yours and Dig's makes my case of upgraditis even stronger, not sure how much longer I'll make it lol.

Yeah, normally I am all over scenese like that from EOT. I was totally amped up to see it and figured I would have a new reference scene, but idk, that just wasn't the case for some reason.

Oblivion is one of my next movies up, haven't seen it yet and can't wait to watch it. My buddy used it all the time for demos with his DIY 21" he built last year and it was pretty fun, looking forward to what it can do on my subs.

Speaking of movies, think I'm going to buy a couple soon, was thinking maybe going the animated route this time since my lady loves those. Was thinking HTTYD 1 and 2, maybe Kung Fu Panda as well. Any other suggestions from the group?

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Fatty I agree with your thoughts. But I must confess, the first time I heard that opening scene I found it intriguing. But that feeling wore off almost immediately and now I scratch my head as to why it even exists. But I like the movie itself. I won't say it's one of my favorite but I like the movie quit a bit.

Hmmm….Now that I think about it I haven't watched Oblivion or EOT with the new V3600 in place. I think I just found a weekend project.
I enjoyed EOT, but Oblivion has much better sound and visuals. Outside of the opening sequence in EOT there isn't much to write home about in the bass department.

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Hop, are we going to see your 3600 compression graph?
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I enjoyed EOT, but Oblivion has much better sound and visuals. Outside of the opening sequence in EOT there isn't much to write home about in the bass department.
Not true. EOT is filled with deep loud bass throughout

Still a 5 star movie without the opening
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Sounds like a fun project Hop. I bet those scenes are brutal on the v3600. Seeing reviews like yours and Dig's makes my case of upgraditis even stronger, not sure how much longer I'll make it lol.

Yeah, normally I am all over scenese like that from EOT. I was totally amped up to see it and figured I would have a new reference scene, but idk, that just wasn't the case for some reason.

Oblivion is one of my next movies up, haven't seen it yet and can't wait to watch it. My buddy used it all the time for demos with his DIY 21" he built last year and it was pretty fun, looking forward to what it can do on my subs.

Speaking of movies, think I'm going to buy a couple soon, was thinking maybe going the animated route this time since my lady loves those. Was thinking HTTYD 1 and 2, maybe Kung Fu Panda as well. Any other suggestions from the group?
Httyd 2 is terrible for bass

For animated bass movies:

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Not true. EOT is filled with deep loud bass throughout

Still a 5 star movie without the opening
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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Well fellas, a week ago, my corner looked like this:


Sad as it may look, not to worry because a few short hours later it looked like this:






WHEW! sorry about the last one too...not sure why such a crappy pic. And i'm about a week overdue on these too...i let you guys down.

ok, so first off....this thing is HUUUUUGE....YES! its an absolute monster in the corner of my room and demands attention when the lights are on. funny thing is, turn the lights down and it disappears into the room. well, until you start movies or music. I personally feel that everyone in this thread deserves a v3600.....unfortunately WAF exists for some, so I will just enjoy the hell out of this one and allow you guys to live vicariously through me. Not unlike being married for 10 years and then the new young guy starts at your work and tells you about all his random sexual escapades. new night, new girl.

A little backstory, i'm coming from dual xv15se's, which i absolutely loved in my room. I had no reason to upgrade other than that gnawing "what if" that was in my brain. I should have put parental controls on PSA's website, because every day i would log in and just stare....i know you guys understand. so here i am, lugging this beast into my home, and my curiosity is no more. this thing is nothing short of amazing. it's funny, but when i was talking to tom and jim when i picked it up, we got into a conversation about the PSA speakers (which i own as well), and tom said the best word he could use to describe them was "effortless." well, that term has been stuck in my head since i first plugged in this v3600. similar sound characteristics as the dual xv's, but just a lot more of it....and it is just producing it with such ease. the bass simply surrounds you like your favorite blanket and massages your back in the meantime. tons of punch, tons of rumble, and a ton of new rattles in my room, lol. i seriously think i may need to superglue my family pictures to the shelf they are perched on, because they are being shaken off from across the room. now, to be fair, once i added my second xv, it was placed directly under those shelves and i had to take the pictures down before watching a movie. i have never knocked stuff off with just one sub before...until now. simply put, my home theater has been taken to an all new level. every movie i watch is just ridiculous now, but it puts a constant smile on my face. also, when i play Call of Duty now, every grenade almost knocks me out of my seat, and if there is a bombing run on screen then i typically get killed now....not from the bombs, but from the real life shell shock that i'm experiencing and can't move my guy. it's that crazy....but AWESOME! so, i had a lady friend over the other day to check out the new sub, which is almost larger than she is(definitely heavier), and of course she told me i was insane and out of control. she just laughed when she saw it, and said boy are the neighbors gonna love you. YUP! anyway, i threw in a couple demo scenes for her and she said two things. first, she said that she has never watched a movie before and had her teeth rattle , and second she said that she thought if she sat right next to it that it may vibrate her into an orgasm. lol. so in summary, if you are on the fence about this thing at all, do yourself a favor and jump into the pool. it is the most powerful yet precise sub i've ever experienced, so take that for what it's worth. Thanks again tom and jim. I had a great time visiting, but i think i'm tapped out for now. i will have to save up some extra so i can complete my speaker collection, but i certainly have plenty in the meantime.
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Not true. EOT is filled with deep loud bass throughout

Still a 5 star movie without the opening
Question for you while we are on the topic of bass heavy movies. Is there an updated list anywhere of all the 5 star flicks?

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Question for you while we are on the topic of bass heavy movies. Is there an updated list anywhere of all the 5 star flicks?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xSbmHNQ2E8iuNeKTgK_LAQWCB6h8Qno3JFTpLuNQbLQ/htmlview?pli=1
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
It's not an opinion if the graphs back it up. It's got the goods throughout. And it sounds it too even without graphs
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It's not an opinion if the graphs back it up. It's got the goods throughout. And it sounds it too even without graphs
Touche! I guess I need to revisit this one.

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They really do a great job. Expensive, but its real wood veneer all assembled and finished about 20 minutes from us in Ohio.

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I just got my v1500 last week and was wondering what is happening inside the sub when adjusting the room size dial on the back. I initially had it set all the way to small since I have a smaller room. I wasn't impressed with what I was hearing so I twisted it all the way to large and got the sound I was expecting. Is there any chance of damaging it by running it on all the way on large room?
Here are a couple graphs. First shows the frequency response of the V3600i with the room size control set to several different points. LARGE = Flattest graph. The more you turn it to SMALL, the more you'll attenuate the deeper bass. The second graph shows the electrical measurements(this is straight from the amp to the graph).

Please note that the system measurement(V3600i) is taken outdoors with no room influence at all. Those wondering "why would we want to cut the deep bass in this manner?" must understand almost all rooms will boost your bass <40hz to some degree. The Room Size control allows you to optimize the subwoofer frequency response to your own specific room.

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I enjoyed EOT, but Oblivion has much better sound and visuals. Outside of the opening sequence in EOT there isn't much to write home about in the bass department.
I also found Oblivion to have superior overall audio to EoT, including bass execution. I could certainly tell EoT was deep and loud with the LFE, but it just did not satisfy me as much as Oblivion. Of course when you put the loudest and most intense bass right in the beginning of a film when nothing is happening on screen it makes the rest of the bass in the film feel relatively underwhelming which is why I hate that intro.
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Oblivion is imo one of the benchmark flicks all around for stellar audio, video and deep bass.
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I also found Oblivion to have superior overall audio to EoT, including bass execution. I could certainly tell EoT was deep and loud with the LFE, but it just did not satisfy me as much as Oblivion. Of course when you put the loudest and most intense bass right in the beginning of a film when nothing is happening on screen it makes the rest of the bass in the film feel relatively underwhelming which is why I hate that intro.
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Agreed on all counts
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I also found Oblivion to have superior overall audio to EoT, including bass execution. I could certainly tell EoT was deep and loud with the LFE, but it just did not satisfy me as much as Oblivion. Of course when you put the loudest and most intense bass right in the beginning of a film when nothing is happening on screen it makes the rest of the bass in the film feel relatively underwhelming which is why I hate that intro.
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Oblivion is imo one of the benchmark flicks all around for stellar audio, video and deep bass.
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@Alan , let me ask you something, when did this problem start, has it been on going and you just weren't aware of it until now. Both plugs on the same circuit will cause both subs to react that way, it's definitely not a power cord issue. Take the mini cooper out of the chain and see what happens.. Also if it's not the mini it has to be an issue with that circuit, grounding maybe..stop back and report and we'll get this resolved..
Since I plugged/unplugged/wiggled the connections to the wall outlet the other night...not a peep from the T-18s.

It might have been going on for quite some time, I don't know. This is the first time since I got the T-18s that I've taken some time out from movies & music to catch up on some reading....and although it's a silent activity for me (I turn off the system and turn on just my reading lamp), I've realized how much I missed just reading a good book.


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Slightly off topic Alan, but what type of line do you have the T18's plugged into? 15A? 20A?
I believe it's just a standard 15A circuit.
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