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Old 09-11-2015, 05:37 PM
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So to get more lower extension, you would let Audyssey calibrate with "small", so it boosts lower frequencies in output then go "large" when you use it?
I guess you could do that, but then you would not have a flat frequency response. I believe the recommendation is to set it to large and leave it there and let Audyssey do its thing. That is what I did and I have nice flat line and then room gain helps me below port tune so I get some decent performance down to 10-11Hz.

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Thanks Bass, that's a nice write up. It's interesting to see all that it can do.
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Very nice, BH but for $1050 price tag (never realized it costs that much), I can build a super nice HTPC with jriver that plays all sources (music, movie, liveTV, DVR, game and much more) and jriver comes with full suite dsp that's integrated with REW measurements and has UNLIMITED pEQ filters for all speakers and subs, LSF, room correction and much much more. Just saying
I didn't pay anywhere close to 1050.00 but I agree it is pricey. That is the nice thing about the 30 day free trial, I can send it back if I feel it is not worth it.

Btw I will be keep a eye out for your post when you build that HTPC w/ jriver.
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^^ I have been using an HTPC as source for the last 10yrs. Never owned a dedicated bluray player. I discovered jriver about a couple years ago and love it. I have been using jriver for bass management (you can set different crossover slopes), low shelf filter, pEQ filters, etc...
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^^ I have been using an HTPC as source for the last 10yrs. Never owned a bluray player. I discovered jriver about a couple years ago and love it. I have been using jriver for bass management (you can set different crossover slopes), low shelf filter, pEQ filters, etc...

Did you build your own HTPC?
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Did you build your own HTPC?
Yeap. Very easy to do. There is a thorough guide by AVS member Assasin here in the HTPC forum.
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^^ I have been using an HTPC as source for the last 10yrs. Never owned a bluray player. I discovered jriver about a couple years ago and love it. I have been using jriver for bass management (you can set different crossover slopes), low shelf filter, pEQ filters, etc...
I know what Jriver is(I have it on my PC now) but it's still not the level of the AMDC in overall capability. Very nice software indeed no doubt about that.


The point I was trying to make in my review is the AMDC is a nice solution for those that do not want to get involved with REW and a Mini DSP which is much more complex to use. What you are paying for with the AMDC is the ease of use, auto calibration, the overall capability of this device. When I said 16 peq filters, I meant filter slots. There is unlimited filters but all I was covering is the basics of this device for SubEQ. Think of this device as a Adyssey XT32 kit but with Mini DSP capability on top, giving you the ability to go back over the auto calibration and tweak the response in to your liking.
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^^ Agree. Does it eq speakers also or just subs? The price tag of the Antimode is just way too much for my pocket as compared to what an HTPC can offer.
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yes it will do the entire system...again I agree on the price.

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yes it will do the entire system...again I agree on the price.
I didn't relaize the Dual Core was a full system eq....can it work with just an AVR, or would you need a processor/amp setup?
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Yeap. Very easy to do. There is a thorough guide by AVS member Assasin here in the HTPC forum.
yup - I've seen that post (and his site) previously. I've always debated building a HTPC. I havent thus far, but hearing Jriver can do EQ may get me motivated
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in terms of output how much is the difference between V1500 and V1800?
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I keep reading about Jriver + EQ, also with using extra software like Audiolense/Acourate and how its very powerful & flexible, but it all seems so complicated. Even using REW seems complicated to me.
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I didn't relaize the Dual Core was a full system eq....can it work with just an AVR, or would you need a processor/amp setup?
I am not 100% sure...I will read up more and let you know.
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in terms of output how much is the difference between V1500 and V1800?
2-3db

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2-3db
thats mean twice the power?
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No about 50%.

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No about 50%.
its not too much... worth paying $ 200 more?
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Yes I do...it's a better looking sub imo aside from performance.
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Yes I do...it's a better looking sub imo aside from performance.
I was really hoping they could turn the v1500 into a slot port design and maybe shrink its size a little.
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its not too much... worth paying $ 200 more?
I went V1800 because I like the looked of the slotted design and I feel a ported design is more susceptible to port chuffing. Considering they are 18 inch drivers the V1800 is not that large. I am loving my dual V1800s, I am amazed every day and our articulate they are, very clean.
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I went V1800 because I like the looked of the slotted design and I feel a ported design is more susceptible to port chuffing. Considering they are 18 inch drivers the V1800 is not that large. I am loving my dual V1800s, I am amazed every day and our articulate they are, very clean.
I'm really happy you like your V1800s because if memory serves it was a hard decision for you when you were deciding which sub to buy (the V1800 or S1500). I think you would have been happy either way but I also think if you went with the S1500 you would always be wondering what the V1800s would have been like.

I also agree with what you said about the looks of the slotted design. Believe it or not that's part of what attracted me to the V3600 right off. It's a hot looking design.
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its not too much... worth paying $ 200 more?
Absolutely worth the extra $200 in my opinion. Two years from now you will have forgotten the extra $200 spent but you will still be enjoying the extra output of the V1800.
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I didn't relaize the Dual Core was a full system eq....can it work with just an AVR, or would you need a processor/amp setup?


The AMDC will EQ a 2.1/2.2 stereo/sub system. It will not EQ a 5, 7, or 9 channel system. If you have a AVR with room correction you would not need EQ for the speakers being most built in correction software(ypao, aud, mcacc, arc) do pretty well with speakers anyway.
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Watched the first movie in a month last night. The Gunman-pretty good movie in TrueHD (Atmos if you have it).

Not an abundance of base heavy material but plenty of large caliber gunshots that make me realize how freaking good this PSA system is with the 210's and dual 3000i.
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Very impressive review bassshead


I believe that the AMDC requires active speakers or separate amp for 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2.

http://www.dspeaker.com/en/technolog...examples.shtml

Also unless pricing has changed, anyone buying dual subs from PSA can get AMDC for $650.00. Still steep but much better than 1099.00.

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Looks like pricing with duals varies from 650-750 depending on the sub

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Thx!


Yes you are correct.


The AMDC is worth 650.00 for it's capability all day...1099.00 is no doubt over priced and 799.00 for a B-stock is borderline. 28 days left to decide if it is worth keeping. I will say it is sooo much easier and convenient to use then a Mini DSP. I have yet to get this device to come close to clipping.

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you need to try one out!!
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basshead, have you run AVR room correction after AMDC and if so how does it sound with all speakers integrated in?
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Yep...Ypao initially set my sub distance 50.2ft before any eq in the chain.

I then setup the AMDC and got my sub response dialed. Noticed there was a 3ms delay added to left sub channel.

Fired up the system and the bass sounded buttery smooth but I noticed some cancellation by ear around crossover region.

I then reran ypao and it set the combined sub distance to 55.4ft.

Fired the system back up and it sounds great.

Now I need to run REW and take a measurement of the combined response.
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Very impressive review bassshead


I believe that the AMDC requires active speakers or separate amp for 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2.

http://www.dspeaker.com/en/technolog...examples.shtml

Also unless pricing has changed, anyone buying dual subs from PSA can get AMDC for $650.00. Still steep but much better than 1099.00.

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Looks like pricing with duals varies from 650-750 depending on the sub
I must have missed out on that one? If I would have known when buying the V3600, I would have entertained that. Any chance Tom?
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