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Nice...

How big is your room?
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It's big. The entire open space is over 5500 cu ft.
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The subs are nice but the keezer 3 taps
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Hate to say. But being from wisconsin I think I saw that before the subs

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Just thought I would share some pics of the new addition to the family. I put my XS30SE next to the S3600I for size comparison if anyone was thinking between the two. Sorry about the quality of the pics, damn cell phone.
Thanks for the comparison Mike, and nice theater byt the way!
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Okay I finally managed to get everything set in place and calibrated. I still have some wire management to do but that can be done tomorrow. As promised here's a pic of the dual V3600's in the back of my room.
Very nice Hop! Have me freaking out. DUALS! and Guiness too! Did you move the XV15SE up front then? I thought the gun shots near furiosa's head were pretty good with one V3600, but two of them.... You may need to inspect for cracks in your drywall soon.
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Very nice Hop! Have me freaking out. DUALS! and Guiness too! Did you move the XV15SE up front then? I thought the gun shots near furiosa's head were pretty good with one V3600, but two of them.... You may need to inspect for cracks in your drywall soon.
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I'm actually going to trade in my XV15se (or sell it if someone near me wants it).

Yeah those gunshots are more intense than I realized. My cupboard full of pub beer glasses were rattling and chinking. It sounded like a thousand people were toasting at a party all at the same time.
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they were....that was the bass gods...drinking to you and you affinity for bass!
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First impressions of dual V3600's…..

To start I showed some restraint and decided to do some music listening first. The V3600's did wonderful. Very tight and clean. I still shake my head in wonder when I hear how musical these subs are especially when you consider the raw power they have lurking under the hood.

Once the music test was over I put in a series of serious bass demo scenes. I used the usual movies to draw from: Enders Game, Inception, WWZ, Oblivion, and a new one…Mad Max Fury Road.

All I can say is Holy Smokes!!!! I'm not sure but I may have internal bleeding.

I heard bass in places I never heard bass before and I already owned one V3600 and had watched all those scenes. For example…there's a place in WWZ where there is a constant throbbing pulsing bass (a few minutes before the grenade scene). It pulled me right into the scene, making me feel like I was there. I had never experienced bass in that scene before (at least not like that). It was bloody incredible!

Mad Max is awesome with any good sub. Mad Max with one V3600 is an intense violent experience. Mad Max with dual V3600's may have caused hallucinations. I'm not even going to try to explain what the sand storm or the three gunshots were like..but they were awesome.

Anyway…I know some of you may think I was crazy for going with dual V3600's and to be honest I had moments of doubt myself. But once I turned them on together and let them stretch their legs all I could do was sit in my (shaking) couch and smile like a child at Christmas. I highly recommend dual V3600's to anyone considering them. Really, the bass just pulls you in and you become part of it. I'm seriously giddy as I type this.
Hi Hop, Do you mind if I quote the above for FB and our website user review section? I'll just use your forum name.

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Who here has the s3000i, or better yet Dual S3000is??
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No need to ask Tom…of course you can.
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they were....that was the bass gods...drinking to you and you affinity for bass!
Ha Ha…that's awesome.
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Nalthien has two S3000i’s. I haven't seen him around lately, but you could PM him.

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Just thought I would share some pics of the new addition to the family. I put my XS30SE next to the S3600I for size comparison if anyone was thinking between the two. Sorry about the quality of the pics, damn cell phone.
Mike hurry and give us some feedback. What is that new sub like?
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Just thought I would share some pics of the new addition to the family. I put my XS30SE next to the S3600I for size comparison if anyone was thinking between the two. Sorry about the quality of the pics, damn cell phone.
If you place the subs directly across from each other in the room you will get the most even response from one seat to the next. It is best if they are at the midpoints of opposing walls. I just noticed you had the two in a photo up at the front of the room, so I figured I would mention.
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Thanks, I also PM'd you I think your opinions would be interesting to me too!
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I have dual S3000is. Let me know if you have any questions

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FYI for anyone following along...

All ICE powered subs are now in stock and will ship within one business day. We're behind on the S1500s but the cabinet shipment will be here Monday morning(was scheduled for today!) All speakers are in stock as well.

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Hop: I haven't even plug it in yet, it's killing me. I had to tear down the back and part of the side wall due to a water leak. I just started framing it this morning and I should have the framing and insulation done by the end of the day. I plan on hanging some drywall this weekend so if everything works out I should be up and running Saturday or Sunday.

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If you place the subs directly across from each other in the room you will get the most even response from one seat to the next. It is best if they are at the midpoints of opposing walls. I just noticed you had the two in a photo up at the front of the room, so I figured I would mention.
Yes, I heard that is a good option for sub placement. I do love the look of the subs up front but when I get some time I will run REW and compare positions. Thanks for the feedback.

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Hop: I haven't even plug it in yet, it's killing me. I had to tear down the back and part of the side wall due to a water leak. I just started framing it this morning and I should have the framing and insulation done by the end of the day. I plan on hanging some drywall this weekend so if everything works out I should be up and running Saturday or Sunday.
Aw man I'm sorry that happened.

Okay, take your time and get everything fixed by midnight... so you can fire up your new sub! Just joking.

Seriously... Good luck getting it all in order and we will wait patiently for your impressions.
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Yes, I heard that is a good option for sub placement. I do love the look of the subs up front but when I get some time I will run REW and compare positions. Thanks for the feedback.
Be sure to run REW at multiple seats in your theater in the two different sub positions you choose (opposing walls vs both up front). It is not that what I suggested will yield the flattest frequency response, but it will yield the most consistent. This means that if you want to EQ to get a flat frequency response, it will basically do the same thing to each seat. If you do not have good seat to seat variation, then when you EQ one seat to get flat frequency response you mess up most of the other seats in various ways.

I look forward to seeing your plots. I'm sure they will look excellent, since you have two very capable subs.
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I know everyone seems to be focused on Hopinater's latest acquisitions, but I wanted to mention that I just joined the club/family a few minutes ago with the order of a V1800. The last month or so has been hell because I am one of those individuals that over-analyzes av equipment purchases to the point of hospitalization Not question of affordability, just making sure I get the best bang for the budget I've set for myself. Who wants to buy something and then have to return it or live with it until able to sell/replace. I even considered staying away from this forum for a while to clear the head. Heck I researched DIY, but time isn't something I have a lot of right now so maybe when I retire. Sub threads are great, but you have those who are very supportive of their favorites, define best using certain criteria - like output, and then others who just hate a certain brand for whatever reason - see ShadyJ (that's not a shot at him, seems like a great person, very knowledgeable, but definitely not a PSA fan for reasons he as made very clear). Shady, you made me take an even harder look at PSA, to which I say "thank you" because it helped me get where I needed to be to make the best buying decision for me.

Those at the top of my list were the HSU VTF15H MK2, Rythmik FV15-HP, Reaction Audio Echo 15 and the PSA V1500 (initially, see below). Hours on this forum, Data-Bass, reviews on other forums and any pro reviews I could find. Even though I currently own two SVS subs, didn't even consider buying another one, in my opinion they have lost their mojo, with a focus more on retail then being a quality/value ID brand. That doesn't mean I would turn away an Ultra for free though. PM'd a few reviewers - David Vaughan and Jim Wilson - who were kind enough to respond to my questions quickly and thoroughly. That's one thing I love about this forum, everyone is usually very helpful. Even heard via PM from some members who gave me their input. Multiple phone calls to Rythmik and PSA, great customer service from all of them even though I am disappointed Tom didn't remember my name after talking to him about the V1500 three weeks ago - kidding (can you imagine all the names he hears in one day via calls, IM, and these types of forums). Many thanks to all.

So after all that homework I ended up going from a 15" to a 18". Every time I kept going back to the product pages for PSA and RA the two slot ported 18" subs seemed to be calling me. I feel PSA has come up with an excellent product that is at the top of its class (sorry RA, what do expect me to say about what I bought?), built in the States (nice plus but not huge for me), excellent driver/amp/cabinet, great warranty (very important) and the 30 day trial with free return shipping (very important because you never know until you hear it in your own HT). The other plus for PSA is availability, I have no doubt RA makes a great sub as well, but reading their thread where there are multiple posts from those who have placed an order asking for updates isn't the greatest form of advertisement. Recognize its hard to communicate effectively when a company is growing quickly with all of your customers (speaking from experience), but having to resort to posting on AVS for updates, meh. Seeing that can't help but remind me of eD, a company I followed closely since they were located in my home state. There was also the apparent quality issue with their speakers (CX-12t) from the shoot-out, just more food for thought, remember I did say over analyze.

I'm looking forward to hearing what PSA has accomplished. It's tough researching either 18" sub from RA or PSA since they are still fairly new products and reviews are tough to find even from owners. Yesterday I was ready to get the Rythmik after talking with Brian, but after some more review/thinking (no coin toss though) I kept coming back to the larger driver and PSA. I have no doubt that the Rythmik is an exceptional sub, there are just things that I like about the V1800, Power Sound Audio as company and I will leave it at that. Another factor for me was Tom's familiarity with SVS, I will have some work to do to get the PC12+ and the PSA V1800 to play nicely with each other, confident should I have any trouble Tom can help me work through it - even if its a Saturday or Sunday. Time to get back into REW as well. The sub should be here middle of next week. Look forward to participating on the PSA sub thread going forward and providing more details about the performance/sound of the V1800. Good listening to all. Steve

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I know everyone seems to be focused on Hopinater's latest acquisitions, but I wanted to mention that I just joined the club/family a few minutes ago with the order of a V1800. The last month or so has been hell because I am one of those individuals that over-analyzes av equipment purchases to the point of hospitalization Not question of affordability, just making sure I get the best bang for the budget I've set for myself. Who wants to buy something and then have to return it or live with it until able to sell/replace. I even considered staying away from this forum for a while to clear the head. Heck I researched DIY, but time isn't something I have a lot of right now so maybe when I retire. Sub threads are great, but you have those who are very supportive of their favorites, define best using certain criteria - like output, and then others who just hate a certain brands for whatever reason - see ShadyJ (that's not a shot at him, seems like a great person, very knowledgeable, but definitely not a PSA fan for reasons he as made very clear). Shady, you made me take an even harder look at PSA, to which I say "thank you" because it helped me get where I needed to be to make the best buying decision for me.

Those at the top of my list were the HSU VTF15H MK2, Rythmik FV15-HP, Reaction Audio Echo 15 and the PSA V1500 (initially, see below). Hours on this forum, Data-Bass, reviews on other forums and any pro reviews I could find. Even though I currently own two SVS subs, didn't even consider buying another one, in my opinion they have lost their mojo, with a focus more on retail then being a quality/value ID brand. That doesn't mean I would turn away an Ultra for free though. PM'd a few reviewers - David Vaughan and Jim Wilson - who were kind enough to respond to my questions quickly and thoroughly. That's one thing I love about this forum, everyone is usually very helpful. Even heard via PM from some members who gave me their input. Multiple phone calls to Rythmik and PSA, great customer service from all of them even though I am disappointed Tom didn't remember my name after talking to him about the V1500 three weeks ago - kidding (can you imagine all the names he hears in one day via calls, IM, and these types of forums). Many thanks to all.

So after all that homework I ended up going from a 15" to a 18". Every time I kept going back to the product pages for PSA and RA the two slot ported 18" subs seemed to be calling me. I feel PSA has come up with an excellent product that is at the top of its class (sorry RA, what do expect me to say about what I bought?), built in the States (nice plus but not huge for me), excellent driver/amp/cabinet, great warranty (very important) and the 30 day trial with free return shipping (very important because you never know until you hear it in your own HT). The other plus for PSA is availability, I have no doubt RA makes a great sub as well, but reading their thread where there are multiple posts from those who have placed an order asking for updates isn't the greatest form of advertisement. Recognize its hard to communicate effectively when a company is growing quickly with all of your customers (speaking from experience), but having to result to posting on AVS for updates, meh. Seeing that can't help but remind me of eD, a company I followed closely since they were located in my home state. There was also the apparent quality issue with their speakers (CX-12t) from the shoot-out, just more food for thought, remember I did say over analyze.

I'm looking forward to hearing what PSA has accomplished. It's tough researching either 18" sub from RA or PSA since they are still fairly new products and reviews are tough to find even from owners. Yesterday I was ready to get the Rythmik after talking with Brian, but after some more review/thinking (no coin toss though) I kept coming back to the larger driver and PSA. I have no doubt that the Rythmik is an exceptional sub, there are just things that I like about the V1800, Power Sound Audio as company and I will leave it at that. Another factor for me was Tom's familiarity with SVS, I will have some work to do to get the PC12+ and the PSA V1800 to play nicely with each other, confident should I have any trouble Tom can help me work through it - even if its a Saturday or Sunday. Time to get back into REW as well. The sub should be here middle of next week. Look forward to participating on the PSA sub thread going forward and providing more details about the performance/sound of the V1800. Good listening to all. Steve
Great read on your decision making process. I agree it can be daunting but I'm glad oh came to your decision and I would agree with every point you made as to why you went in the psa direction

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Are you going to get both working together, or just go with one sub?
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I know everyone seems to be focused on Hopinater's latest acquisitions, but I wanted to mention that I just joined the club/family a few minutes ago with the order of a V1800. The last month or so has been hell because I am one of those individuals that over-analyzes av equipment purchases to the point of hospitalization Not question of affordability, just making sure I get the best bang for the budget I've set for myself. Who wants to buy something and then have to return it or live with it until able to sell/replace. I even considered staying away from this forum for a while to clear the head. Heck I researched DIY, but time isn't something I have a lot of right now so maybe when I retire. Sub threads are great, but you have those who are very supportive of their favorites, define best using certain criteria - like output, and then others who just hate a certain brand for whatever reason - see ShadyJ (that's not a shot at him, seems like a great person, very knowledgeable, but definitely not a PSA fan for reasons he as made very clear). Shady, you made me take an even harder look at PSA, to which I say "thank you" because it helped me get where I needed to be to make the best buying decision for me.

Those at the top of my list were the HSU VTF15H MK2, Rythmik FV15-HP, Reaction Audio Echo 15 and the PSA V1500 (initially, see below). Hours on this forum, Data-Bass, reviews on other forums and any pro reviews I could find. Even though I currently own two SVS subs, didn't even consider buying another one, in my opinion they have lost their mojo, with a focus more on retail then being a quality/value ID brand. That doesn't mean I would turn away an Ultra for free though. PM'd a few reviewers - David Vaughan and Jim Wilson - who were kind enough to respond to my questions quickly and thoroughly. That's one thing I love about this forum, everyone is usually very helpful. Even heard via PM from some members who gave me their input. Multiple phone calls to Rythmik and PSA, great customer service from all of them even though I am disappointed Tom didn't remember my name after talking to him about the V1500 three weeks ago - kidding (can you imagine all the names he hears in one day via calls, IM, and these types of forums). Many thanks to all.

So after all that homework I ended up going from a 15" to a 18". Every time I kept going back to the product pages for PSA and RA the two slot ported 18" subs seemed to be calling me. I feel PSA has come up with an excellent product that is at the top of its class (sorry RA, what do expect me to say about what I bought?), built in the States (nice plus but not huge for me), excellent driver/amp/cabinet, great warranty (very important) and the 30 day trial with free return shipping (very important because you never know until you hear it in your own HT). The other plus for PSA is availability, I have no doubt RA makes a great sub as well, but reading their thread where there are multiple posts from those who have placed an order asking for updates isn't the greatest form of advertisement. Recognize its hard to communicate effectively when a company is growing quickly with all of your customers (speaking from experience), but having to result to posting on AVS for updates, meh. Seeing that can't help but remind me of eD, a company I followed closely since they were located in my home state. There was also the apparent quality issue with their speakers (CX-12t) from the shoot-out, just more food for thought, remember I did say over analyze.

I'm looking forward to hearing what PSA has accomplished. It's tough researching either 18" sub from RA or PSA since they are still fairly new products and reviews are tough to find even from owners. Yesterday I was ready to get the Rythmik after talking with Brian, but after some more review/thinking (no coin toss though) I kept coming back to the larger driver and PSA. I have no doubt that the Rythmik is an exceptional sub, there are just things that I like about the V1800, Power Sound Audio as company and I will leave it at that. Another factor for me was Tom's familiarity with SVS, I will have some work to do to get the PC12+ and the PSA V1800 to play nicely with each other, confident should I have any trouble Tom can help me work through it - even if its a Saturday or Sunday. Time to get back into REW as well. The sub should be here middle of next week. Look forward to participating on the PSA sub thread going forward and providing more details about the performance/sound of the V1800. Good listening to all. Steve
Well written as I am sure you hit the nail with most folks on the fence about buying a subwoofer. I too spent many hours/months researching subs, but PSA was available, free shipping, and the fact that I only had to wait just a few minutes for Tom to answer my questions. So I took the plunge, and now have three PSA subs. I am sure that you will not be let down, and welcome to the PSA family!!
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The last month or so has been hell because I am one of those individuals that over-analyzes av equipment purchases to the point of hospitalization Not question of affordability, just making sure I get the best bang for the budget I've set for myself. Who wants to buy something and then have to return it or live with it until able to sell/replace. I even considered staying away from this forum for a while to clear the head.
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I know EXACTLY what you mean!! I'm the same way, I suspect many of us are!!
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