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Old 11-07-2015, 08:39 AM
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FWIW I like having two V3600s.
oh, trust me hop, i know you do....i know. you. do.



and as far as the room setting, i have mine set to large because i'm one of the weirdo's that hates the thought of not getting full output at those lower levels on my v3600. my actual living room isn't huge, but there is no way to seal it off, so it is essentially open the the entire floor plan, so the sub would probably "see" the room as large anyway. i keep it on large, and i am thrilled with the output on movies and music as well.
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oh, trust me hop, i know you do....i know. you. do.



and as far as the room setting, i have mine set to large because i'm one of the weirdo's that hates the thought of not getting full output at those lower levels on my v3600. my actual living room isn't huge, but there is no way to seal it off, so it is essentially open the the entire floor plan, so the sub would probably "see" the room as large anyway. i keep it on large, and i am thrilled with the output on movies and music as well.
Based on your description you do have a large room from a subwoofers perspective. I have the same situation…the room itself is not so large but the open floor plan makes it large. I used to use the medium room setting when I only had a single V3600. But I switched it to large with the duals and I like it where it's at a lot better.
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OK guys, Tom is getting me a b-stock S3000i to go directly behind my chair (I was originally thinking S3600 to match the 18"s in the T-18s). Tom said that with the sub so nearfield I would be fine even if I ended up having to put it a few feet away.

I like the idea because the S3000 is smaller.

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i just need to keep telling myself that christmas is coming and quit spending money on myself....lol. as we always say, it's a sickness. some have alcohol, some drugs, some gambling....some PSA.
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S3000i up and running!!!! Amazing subs!!
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nice looking setup. is that room not screaming for treatments though? at least a large rug on that floor? just seems like it would echo like crazy based on what i see.
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You had to include Thor's hammer didn't you
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You had to include Thor's hammer didn't you
i looked right at that in the picture, yet didn't see the handle...only the silver part. i thought it was some sort of atmos speaker, lol. perspective is everything i suppose.
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oh, trust me hop, i know you do....i know. you. do.



and as far as the room setting, i have mine set to large because i'm one of the weirdo's that hates the thought of not getting full output at those lower levels on my v3600. my actual living room isn't huge, but there is no way to seal it off, so it is essentially open the the entire floor plan, so the sub would probably "see" the room as large anyway. i keep it on large, and i am thrilled with the output on movies and music as well.
You still are not quite getting it...the room control feature DOES NOT LIMIT OUTPUT, it simply adjusts the response shape. Response has nothing to do with full output either. You will still have the same amount of deep bass capability but you might have to turn the volume up more to reach it. Basically you are tilting the response to be more biased towards the upper end of the bass spectrum when turning the room control dial towards small.
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i do get it, i'm just not expressing it in technical terms. what i said was sorta tongue in cheek which is why i said i was a weirdo. it was meant to imply that just looking at the charts, the higher levels in the lower regions were more appealing. like many do around these parts, they would rather nit pick a response chart that doesn't even reflect their own room rather than trust what they are hearing for themselves. either way, i like what i am hearing with it set to large, and it fits with what my sub is "seeing" due to total room size so i left it on large. always nice to have choices and setting adjustments.
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i agree i have a small ech issue
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S3000i up and running!!!! Amazing subs!!
Congrats on two awesome subs! The symmetrical placement, as if they were full range speakers, tells me that either you are 1) extremely lucky, or 2) have not measured to see how bad your frequency response is despite having bought two extremely high quality subs.
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i believe that i am lucky they sund fantastic there.the nly ther place i culd put them is in the crner
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i believe that i am lucky they sund fantastic there.the nly ther place i culd put them is in the crner
Oh... I know you are lucky…simply because you just got the S3000i subwoofer delivered and hooked up. Congrats.
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Man, it’s difficult to even mentioned what I received with all the huge multiple subs being purchased. Tom must be breaking records. Congratulations to all! Since Tuesday, I’ve been the proud owner of a PSA T-Shirt. Damn thing was very expensive, but Tom, being the great guy he is, slipped an S3000i into the box to soothe the pain . One T-Shirt is all I need, thank you….
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You still are not quite getting it...the room control feature DOES NOT LIMIT OUTPUT, it simply adjusts the response shape. Response has nothing to do with full output either. You will still have the same amount of deep bass capability but you might have to turn the volume up more to reach it. Basically you are tilting the response to be more biased towards the upper end of the bass spectrum when turning the room control dial towards small.
Wouldn't it cause compression at lower output in the lower Hz in small as opposed to large? If so, that would lower dynamics in those Hz ranges.
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Yes, I'd like to buy a vowel Pat! Is there an "o"?
now dat dere is funny....i don't care who you are.
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Wouldn't it cause compression at lower output in the lower Hz in small as opposed to large? If so, that would lower dynamics in those Hz ranges.
Technically turning the control to SMALL will lessen compression effects. Think of it this way....

1)With the control set to LARGE(no deep bass attenuation) system XYZ can reach 110dB @20hz and this equates to no compression on their DVD collection up to -5 on the master volume control.

2)With the control set to SMALL system XYZ can STILL reach 110dB @20hz (this won't change!)....but now the master volume control setting for this is +3.

So, in scenario 1, system compression manifests itself at -5(on master volume). In scenario 2, the system doesn't compress until you are 3dB ABOVE reference level.

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Man, it’s difficult to even mentioned what I received with all the huge multiple subs being purchased. Tom must be breaking records. Congratulations to all! Since Tuesday, I’ve been the proud owner of a PSA T-Shirt. Damn thing was very expensive, but Tom, being the great guy he is, slipped an S3000i into the box to soothe the pain . One T-Shirt is all I need, thank you….
Ha Ha Ha…yeah those t-shirts can be very expensive. But the subwoofer they come with make the shirts worth every penny. Congratulations. Enjoy that S3000i.
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2 hours until Jurassic World with the family, the Wife is finally going to be introduced to the S3600I. I wonder how long its going to take her to tell me " can you lower that"

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sounds like you unfortunately found the wrong woman, not the wrong sub.
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sounds like you unfortunately found the wrong woman, not the wrong sub.

She never has complained about the sound but then again she has never heard the S3600i yet. The reason I mention this is the last 2 movies Godzilla and Mad Max I actually had to turn off Dynamic EQ. When I first listened to the S3600I & XS30SE combo my room was still torn apart, well the room is completely sealed again and WOW what a HUGE difference. My original plan was to upgrade my other XS30SE next year and get another S3600I but now I'm not too sure as I have tons of output now. The only reason I would upgrade and get another is so I would have matching subs it would have nothing to do with output, the S3600I is that good.
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well, yeah!! of course you need matching subs! i keep thinking the same thing when i look at my lonely v3600. but i also keep thinking about all the drywall repair work i would have to do if i got duals of the beast! someday......
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well, yeah!! of course you need matching subs! i keep thinking the same thing when i look at my lonely v3600. but i also keep thinking about all the drywall repair work i would have to do if i got duals of the beast! someday......
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I have double layer on my ceiling but only single layers on the front, back and side walls. I'm going to add another layer to the front wall in the future as I have extra sheets laying around. It's funny you mention cracks as I have 3 cracks since I added the S3600I all on the butt joints.

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as powerful as these things are it is not surprising. but seriously, what would the neighbors say if they came in and saw non matching subs!??
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as powerful as these things are it is not surprising. but seriously, what would the neighbors say if they came in and saw non matching subs!??
Every time I enter the movie room and look at the subs I'm always telling myself " I need matching subs and then I'll finally be finished " . I will be getting a work Christmas bonus in December but then again I used last years to help purchase a second XS30SE, the Wife ask me the same day I ordered the XS30SE "what ever happened to your bonus".
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She never has complained about the sound but then again she has never heard the S3600i yet. The reason I mention this is the last 2 movies Godzilla and Mad Max I actually had to turn off Dynamic EQ. When I first listened to the S3600I & XS30SE combo my room was still torn apart, well the room is completely sealed again and WOW what a HUGE difference. My original plan was to upgrade my other XS30SE next year and get another S3600I but now I'm not too sure as I have tons of output now. The only reason I would upgrade and get another is so I would have matching subs it would have nothing to do with output, the S3600I is that good.
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well, yeah!! of course you need matching subs! i keep thinking the same thing when i look at my lonely v3600. but i also keep thinking about all the drywall repair work i would have to do if i got duals of the beast! someday......
Yeah that's exactly how I felt when I had the V3600 and the XV15se, bass wise I thought I was fine but I really wanted to have matching subs and I really wanted to add another sub with an ICE amp instead of the Bash amp. So when the opportunity came I jumped on it and added the 2nd V3600. As a bonus I found that I now have great bass even at low volumes.

Anyway, I completely understand what you guys are talking about. Maybe you will be better at resisting that temptation than I was. I simply found it far easier to give in and buy a matching sub. What I can say, I have a weakness.

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lol hop....every time i come to grips, you make it seem ok to add more.
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lol hop....every time i come to grips, you make it seem ok to add more.
Ha Ha Ha….Trust Me! I'm on your side….it's always okay to add more.

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