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I just received my v1800. It is huge. I haven't had much time to fine tune it. It sounds amazing with the music I have tried so far. I have it set on auto for power. It keeps clicking every minute or so. My receiver is off so it should not be getting a signal. Is it normal for it to be going on and off? Should I just keep it on all the time?
I've had this happen to a few of my subs. I ended up just turning them on and leaving them on. Could never find a reason why. If you figure it out, post on here and let us know!
I had this issue on my v1500's originally. I found that the cables I had were not the best shielding wise. If they lay on or in nearby parallel with power and other cords they were bleeding enough to cause some issues with the amp cycling on and off even with no signal present from avr. I rerouted the cables and this fixed the issue. Try and have them cross perpendicular if needed.

I also had some issues with the signal not being the greatest strength wise and causing the amps to not turn on quickly and cutting out during quiet portions of programming much earlier than warranted. Adding a y cable to the left/right inputs helped to clear that up as well.
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Any interest in a Pittsburgh area meet up?
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This sounds great, I wish I could host a GTG but unfortunately at this time that's not possible, I'm taking care of my ailing Father and my ailing self... but I would really entertain the idea of getting together in Pittsburgh. I'm also 60 miles from Mineral Ridge (PSA) and if the guys are willing to send something to audition I would be more than happy to pick it (them) up...

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Hi guys looking for some information.
What are the differences between the V1800 and the S3000i?
Not the stuff I can look up on the web site such as 2 x 15" vs 1 x 18", 1700 watts vs 725 watts.
What would I notice in the real world? why would you chose one over the other? what are peoples experiences with either?
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Hi guys looking for some information.
What are the differences between the V1800 and the S3000i?
Not the stuff I can look up on the web site such as 2 x 15" vs 1 x 18", 1700 watts vs 725 watts.
What would I notice in the real world? why would you chose one over the other? what are peoples experiences with either?
Brew, Several questions here: what will be your primary use? Room dimensions?
Is your room sealed or do you have an open floor plan? Where will the sub reside?
The more information you can provide the guys here, the more they can help you decide which way sub to lean towards? You could always order both of them, and demo them, then send back the sub you do not want? Good luck.
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The 3000i will give up 2-3db of output to the V1800 in the 16-60hz range, but pulls ahead above 60hz. Also has the ability for single digit extension in small to medium size rooms( <2500^3). The 18" subs seem to gain a lot of steam over the 15" subs in the 31-50hz band according to the website.

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Quick update on product availability. We've been working with our cabinet vendors to increase their build efficiency but we're still going to have sporadic outages with our Satin Black cabinets. As of today(2-05)


All speakers (MT110, MT110sur, MTM210 and MTM210towers) are OUT of stock. We've been out of the 10" woofers for a week or so but we have a couple pallets of 10" woofers from Eminence arriving on Monday/Tue. We have 55-60(?) speakers back ordered right now. Most of these are already partially assembled with the crossover assembly/testing finished as well. Once the woofers arrive we'll be able to expedite order fulfillment. I'd expect all of the back orders to be fulfilled by WED/THUR. Any new order for speakers will ship in 3-4 business days.

HOWEVER. Once all the back orders are fulfilled we'll be back to running low on most of the speakers cabinets again. We may be OOS(out of stock) on some models for a few weeks in the "end of Feb/first half of March" time frame. Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up.

15S and 15V subwoofers are both back in stock but I cannot say for how long. Approximately half of the incoming 15V subwoofers were sold before the cabinets arrived. I don't see us getting more cabinets until mid March.

The S1800 is still on schedule-- shipping around the 11th(+/- 1 day) We bumped up the cabinet quantity on this one so we still have room in the first production run(even counting everything that will be headed to our dealers). Anyone on the fence, don't wait too long. As soon as the first shipment goes out the door the pre-order pricing goes away.

The V3600i is about gone, I think we have 2-3 here and I won't be able to fit more of those into the schedule until early March.

All other subwoofers (S1500, S3000i, S3600i, T18ht, V1500, and V1800) are all *OKAY* stock for now.

Thanks to everyone who plays a role in keeping us so busy!

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Brew, Several questions here: what will be your primary use? Room dimensions?
Is your room sealed or do you have an open floor plan? Where will the sub reside?
The more information you can provide the guys here, the more they can help you decide which way sub to lean towards? You could always order both of them, and demo them, then send back the sub you do not want? Good luck.
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Large open plan 5400^3. Listening levels of -30 to -10max. Movies mainly. Will be in front corner very close to wall. 12 foot from listening position.
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Brew, Several questions here: what will be your primary use? Room dimensions?
Is your room sealed or do you have an open floor plan? Where will the sub reside?
The more information you can provide the guys here, the more they can help you decide which way sub to lean towards? You could always order both of them, and demo them, then send back the sub you do not want? Good luck.
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Can't audition them at home due to location.
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New to HT subs and looking to spend ~$1000 for a quality product. Does someone have a link for independent testing and review of the 15s, 15v, s1500, v1500 and s1800. I went to the PSA site but found only one customer review of the s1500. Thanks
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I went to the PSA site but found only one customer review of the s1500. Thanks
I was very impressed by my S1500. So much that I bought a S3000.
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New to HT subs and looking to spend ~$1000 for a quality product. Does someone have a link for independent testing and review of the 15s, 15v, s1500, v1500 and s1800. I went to the PSA site but found only one customer review of the s1500. Thanks
why not simply take advantage of the free trial period and try one or 2 different models?

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why not simply take advantage of the free trial period and try one or 2 different models?
I don't have the testing equipment.
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Large open plan 5400^3. Listening levels of -30 to -10max. Movies mainly. Will be in front corner very close to wall. 12 foot from listening position.
At minimum, I would say dual S3000I or dual V1800. If you want to try and make due with a single sub, I'd say V3600.

-10 MV with sub 5 hot = 110 dB.
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New to HT subs and looking to spend ~$1000 for a quality product. Does someone have a link for independent testing and review of the 15s, 15v, s1500, v1500 and s1800. I went to the PSA site but found only one customer review of the s1500. Thanks
The S1800s won't begin shipping for another few days so it may be tough finding reviews on that one.

The 15S and 15V have only been shipping for just over a month...with the second production "wave" going out the door yesterday.

We do have a bunch of testimonials I need to get on the site but to be honest, at this point, we're much more focused on improving inventory logistics in an attempt to keep up with demand.

I would spend a little time reviewing this thread. I bet you'll find dozens of owner's commenting on their S1500..

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Large open plan 5400^3. Listening levels of -30 to -10max. Movies mainly. Will be in front corner very close to wall. 12 foot from listening position.
These two options are going to sound more similar than different...and close to identical unless you are at your loudest volume levels. I'd lean toward the single V1800 at $1299 as the best value.

Corner loaded, 4m from the key seat...-10 shouldn't really pose much problem.

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At minimum, I would say dual S3000I or dual V1800. If you want to try and make due with a single sub, I'd say V3600.

-10 MV with sub 5 hot = 110 dB.
Single V1800 should be fine. We were hitting >110 over most of the bandwidth(down to about 20hz) outside at 2m iirc.

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New to HT subs and looking to spend ~$1000 for a quality product. Does someone have a link for independent testing and review of the 15s, 15v, s1500, v1500 and s1800. I went to the PSA site but found only one customer review of the s1500. Thanks
We have both the 15S and the S1500 (for PSA subs ~ $1000). They are both amazing and the bass belies their size. The S1500 looks like a standard 10" - 12" sub (in fact, it replace a 10" sub in the same place) but has a 15" driver with a lot of power behind it. Both subs hit hard, low and deep without strain. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend or purchase another of each. I don't know how the vented versions sound, but coming from PSA, they'll have the same recommendations from those that own them and have more output (I just prefer sealed subs).
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it may be tough finding reviews on S1800...... I bet you'll find dozens of owner's commenting on their S1500..

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We have both the 15S and the S1500 (for PSA subs ~ $1000). They are both amazing and the bass belies their size.

I realize there is a following of loyal fans, and I want to join the group and support American workers, but not blindly.

So is there any professional independent testing so I can compare apples to oranges? Otherwise the HSU is my 2nd choice. Thanks
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I realize there is a following of loyal fans, and I want to join the group and support American workers, but not blindly.

So is there any professional independent testing so I can compare apples to oranges? Otherwise the HSU is my 2nd choice. Thanks
Nope.

I'm sure hsuresearch will appreciate the business. They make very good stuff!

Also, I'm seeing 1 hsu product that has "independent professional cea-2010"? So not sure why you feel that's is such a big variable from our products?

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I realize there is a following of loyal fans, and I want to join the group and support American workers, but not blindly.

So is there any professional independent testing so I can compare apples to oranges? Otherwise the HSU is my 2nd choice. Thanks
I think you'll find that many PSA owners have owned a multitude of different brands. HSU does have a good rap, but so does PSA. I've owned subs from Velodyne, Energy, Boston Acoustics, NHT, Infinity, KEF, ACI, SVS and some others. For me, PSA makes some of the best-bang-for-the-buck subs (and they're made here, not sure how they do that when most have to manufacture over seas). Yes, you can get many great subs from quite a few other manufactures, including ID. But, for the same amount of $, they won't be better - you'll just pay more IMO.

And the customer service from PSA is absolutely incredible, for me all worth the price of admission. Great products, great price, and great customer service. I have a lot of other brands in our home, so not a fan-boy. Just impressed with PSA.
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Sub performance is much less subjective than speakers, when comparing the well known players in subs (e.g. the ID companies) I doubt there will be much difference that anyone could detect in a blind test. What I mean to say is the usual suspects discussed on this forum are all great.

With that being said, other factors like service, value, longevity of the company, all of that come into play. I'm not even a PSA customer (I have a old SVS) and I still recommend them.
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So I have a question and please ignore my ignorance if this has been asked. I'm looking at replacing my HSU VTF-3 MK4 with possibly a V1500 or V1800. I'm looking at the site and the specs are relatively the same. What difference will I see for the $200 difference? My main use is movies, and want the most for my money. I've been happy with my HSU but I want something that's going to go lower at higher SPL. I'm also looking at the VTF-15 MK2 for reference. Thanks for any help and sorry if this is a repetitive question.

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The difference is 3-4db more headrom above 30hz from the v1800.

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So is there any professional independent testing so I can compare apples to oranges? Otherwise the HSU is my 2nd choice. Thanks
Not sure why it is a big deal when you can try a PSA product free for 30days. If you do not like it, then return it and PSA covers the shipping. That is hardly a blind buy with that perk. HSU will require you to pay return shipping on their products. Aside from that www.data-bass.com/systems has independent testing on a few PSA subs, but they are older models. The XS15se would be very comparable to the 15s.
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Sealing V3600i?

Hi Tom,

Quick and dumb questions: what would happen if I run V3600i in sealed mode? Do you need to use some special kind of foam plugs to seal the port, or any garden variety foam is okay?

I had to move my sub to a terrible corner location and I am experimenting around to smooth out some distortions in lower octaves.
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Not sure about your location Brew, but you got to call Tom! Ha can talk you thru many variables for your situation. I would personally vote for the V3600, as I own that monster in a 2800>3 room, and it is AWESOME
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