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I think there can be "plenty". Once you are reference capable, anything more is just excess... Now if Brian wants to add a pair of 18's to lift his 5-15hz numbers, I say GO FOR IT.
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I think there can be "plenty". Once you are reference capable from mid teens on up, anything more is just excess...especially if you value your hearing.
I guess I have plenty. But I really want to be reference to 5hz. It's not rational and only for about <1% of all movie content. But I just want it hahaha
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I guess I have plenty. But I really want to be reference to 5hz. It's not rational and only for about <1% of all movie content. But I just want it hahaha
Ya I just edited my post to reflect that. I figured you wanted to boost the 5hz range...nothing wrong with that at all!! I figured you have way more then you need above 30hz. Man I really want a small sealed room!!
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Got my 15v all setup and after running audyssey and adjusting the level up a bit for my preference I am impressed with this sub. I left it set to large because I really liked the bass it output at my normal listening level. So far from my limited testing it's great. Even my music sounds better than what I was using previously.

Tried it at reference level and oh man, it was scarey. My room just can't handle that. -10 is my limit but normally -15 is good for movies.

Now I just need to figure out a way to keep the door from shaking. I don't know if it's pressurizing the room but I can feel it in my bones and my chest pounds and the door rattles lol. Seems only on exaggerated bass sections like in the Transformers Age of Extinction demo on the September 2015 Dolby Atmos disc. I watched the opening scene of Specter with the Day of the Dead festival and the opening has a really heavy bass line with the music and it was solid and deep but didn't rattle the door. I think that is more indicative of normal usage than that particular scene from Transformers. Overall it's awesome.

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Now I just need to figure out a way to keep the door from shaking.
I've got two doors along the screen wall that go nuts during the blackhole scene in Interstellar. I read that adding foam weather stripping (like what you'd put in windows and available at Home Depot) can help. Bought some, but haven't put it in yet so I can't vouch for its effectiveness, but sounds reasonable (and it only cost a few dollars for more than enough).
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I've got two doors along the screen wall that go nuts during the blackhole scene in Interstellar. I read that adding foam weather stripping (like what you'd put in windows and available at Home Depot) can help. Bought some, but haven't put it in yet so I can't vouch for it's effectiveness, but sounds reasonable (and it only cost a few dollars for more than enough).
That's a pretty good idea, yeah just a little buffer to keep it from hitting the frame.

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Now I just need to figure out a way to keep the door from shaking.
I had one of my two doors rattle. Adjusting the strike plate solved it.

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Brian... I'm glad you're questioning yourself because after reading this I was wondering the same thing, what IS wrong with you?

Why are you only considering TWO 18 inch subs? I think FOUR would be better.

And did I read that right? Did you say you have PLENTY? I don't think the word plenty can be used when one is referring to subwoofers. I think that might actually be a law.
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I had one of my two doors rattle. Adjusting the strike plate solved it.
I'll check that too, thanks.

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Ha Ha Ha… You know what would be bad?….. if our wives ever met one another and started to share their stories about us and our subwoofers.

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ruthless....just ruthless hop. watch out for brian's wife!
Heh Heh Heh…. I know.

Last year after I bought something my wife told me I couldn't talk to Brian anymore. I kind of blamed him for making me want to buy the MT110 speakers. So it would only be fair if his wife gets mad at me.

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Ha Ha Ha… You know what would be bad?….. if our wives ever met one another and started to share their stories about us and our subwoofers.



Heh Heh Heh…. I know.

Last year after I bought something my wife told me I couldn't talk to Brian anymore. I kind of blamed him for making me want to buy the MT110 speakers. So it would only be fair if his wife gets mad at me.
eh...small price to pay. cause her being mad at me...now allows you to have a HUGE smile on your face everytime you fire up your PSA awesomeness
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So true. She's now actually happy with you because she love's the PSA sound that we have.

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Ha Ha Ha… You know what would be bad?….. if our wives ever met one another and started to share their stories about us and our subwoofers.



Heh Heh Heh…. I know.

Last year after I bought something my wife told me I couldn't talk to Brian anymore. I kind of blamed him for making me want to buy the MT110 speakers. So it would only be fair if his wife gets mad at me.
Just think if they ever found out where we lurk all the time and how to get on here and create accounts. I think a lot of guys would be in deep s*** me being one of them. That guy Matt Boyer above is screwed, not only does he have his full name, but a picture of himself.

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@powerdubs , I bet your next post is I have a second 3000..........


Yea.. tomorrow I will anyway.

Stay tuned for charts of 1 VS 2.

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I told Tom, I probably would have bought bigger than the S3000 (S36, V36, T18) ...but all of those require freight..and I can't deal with that. If shipping the enclosure separate from the speakers + amp was an option- that would be a different story...but I understand they might want to avoid the headache from someone who screws up plugging in a couple wires and screws....
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Yea.. tomorrow I will anyway.

Stay tuned for charts of 1 VS 2.

Four 15 inch subs, 3400 watts RMS, ...will it be enough? Hard to say.. my effective open area is HUUUGE....

I told Tom, I probably would have bought bigger than the S3000 (S36, V36, T18) ...but all of those require freight..and I can't deal with that. If shipping the enclosure separate from the speakers + amp was an option- that would be a different story...but I understand they might want to avoid the headache from someone who screws up plugging in a couple wires and screws....
I think you will be very impressed.

Freight delivery, dont let that scare you....my XS30 was shipped freight back then. They will wheel it to wherever you want it to go-at least the trucker that delivered mine did. If you need help carrying it into the house, 20-30 buck tip goes a long way, especially if they were careful with the freight.
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I ended up sending back the sub isolation transformer I bought from blue jeans cable. It stopped the ground loop, but it had a strange interaction with my sub. It would turn it on at odd times and would just hum. The last straw was when I caused the hum to return while watching a movie. I tried a product that was much more expensive, but didn't work at all. I've decided to live with the ground loop - not noticeable unless I'm right next to it.
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I ended up sending back the sub isolation transformer I bought from blue jeans cable. It stopped the ground loop, but it had a strange interaction with my sub. It would turn it on at odd times and would just hum. The last straw was when I caused the hum to return while watching a movie. I tried a product that was much more expensive, but didn't work at all. I've decided to live with the ground loop - not noticeable unless I'm right next to it.
I found two products that worked well for ground loop

1) When my coax was causing a problem, this worked
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...rch_detailpage


2) for some reason, a loop returned a few months later. IT went away when I used a XLR cable, but this seemd to work fine before the XLR fix
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I found two products that worked well for ground loop

1) When my coax was causing a problem, this worked
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...rch_detailpage
This product worked really well for me back when I was an apartment dweller.

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I had a ground loop problem with my external amp, the speakers and subs were humming badly, the amp and my receiver were on the same circuit only the receiver was plugged into a SP and the amp wasn't. I was told to either plug both the amp and receiver in the SP or neither of them , they both had to be on the same circuit though. I ended up plugging both the AVR and amp on a dedicated separate circuit and problem was solved, dead silent.
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Just think if they ever found out where we lurk all the time and how to get on here and create accounts. I think a lot of guys would be in deep s*** me being one of them. That guy Matt Boyer above is screwed, not only does he have his full name, but a picture of himself.
Until I can find a way to keep her locked out of the basement it'll be hard to hide the gobs of equipment so not much use hiding in here either!

The trick though is to figure out how long things take to ship and then make sure she isn't home when it arrives! Unless of course it's a pair of V1800s. You're screwed then.
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That, and "hold at local fedex facility" make things go a lot smoother!
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I think you will be very impressed.

Freight delivery, dont let that scare you....my XS30 was shipped freight back then. They will wheel it to wherever you want it to go-at least the trucker that delivered mine did. If you need help carrying it into the house, 20-30 buck tip goes a long way, especially if they were careful with the freight.
Same. He moved it in my garage and even offered to take it off the pallet and take the pallet with him because I didn't want it. He asked what it was and thought I was crazy. I can only imagine what truckers think of the 3600's lol.

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When I had to send my 15v shipment to fedex to pick it up since I can't take off work to sign for it, the guy at FedEx was like "so you are the guy with the 80lb subwoofer". Totally surprised me that he recognized the PSA name lol
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Same. He moved it in my garage and even offered to take it off the pallet and take the pallet with him because I didn't want it. He asked what it was and thought I was crazy. I can only imagine what truckers think of the 3600's lol.
All I know is they stare at you and shake their heads when you tell them what it is.

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No 2nd S3000 for me today.

Even though I thought I was on good terms with my delivery guy..and I had expressed with him in the past to leave any package requiring signature...explaining I have a job, am always at work while he delivers..and nobody else besides my wife and I live here..., I have already went to their hub and signed a release form, which I was told would solve the problem of them having liability, ...and I even put a note for the delivery guy, I know the box is heavy- saying to sign for me and leave it..and I taped $10 to the sign... go buy a beer...

Nope. I came home to a stupid notice. Signature required.

I am frustrated. I payed for the shipping. PSA did not. I paid for the product. So essentially PSA no longer owns it, I do. And I paid to have it shipped to MY house. *I* paid Fedex, not PSA. I understand that both PSA and FedUp are trying to limit their liability- but I already drive an hour EACH way to their hub to sign a waver that they told me would stop me from having these issues in the future. Dammit!!

SOOOO... here it is..Friday night after a long week..and I want to play with my toy. NOPE. I spent 52 minutes on the phone, on hold and arguing with 3 different people at Fedup- I have 4 choices-

#1- I drive an hour EACH WAY to the hub to pick up something I PAID THEM TO SHIP.

#2- I wait around all day tomorrow, on MY Saturday for a driver to show up and sign for it. Which means FU to any plans my wife and I had..

#3- They try delivery again on Monday, (oh wait, I have a job..sorry)...then retry on Tuesday (same ****)...after 3 tries, it gets sent back to PSA...

#4- I redirect the shipping to another address of someone who can sign- my closest person who can be home (thankfully works from home) is my sister who works from home- 50 minutes away- each way.

I know both Fedex and PSA is trying to limit liability, but if I signed a liability waiver at FedFux, which they told me would stop this crap, drove an hour each way to do so... then WTF.

Very frustrating. I should be playing with my toy- not taking off work, or wasting my Saturday.
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No 2nd S3000 for me today.

Even though I thought I was on good terms with my delivery guy..and I had expressed with him in the past to leave any package requiring signature...explaining I have a job, am always at work while he delivers..and nobody else besides my wife and I live here..., I have already went to their hub and signed a release form, which I was told would solve the problem of them having liability, ...and I even put a note for the delivery guy, I know the box is heavy- saying to sign for me and leave it..and I taped $10 to the sign... go buy a beer...

Nope. I came home to a stupid notice. Signature required.

I am frustrated. I payed for the shipping. PSA did not. I paid for the product. So essentially PSA no longer owns it, I do. And I paid to have it shipped to MY house. *I* paid Fedex, not PSA. I understand that both PSA and FedUp are trying to limit their liability- but I already drive an hour EACH way to their hub to sign a waver that they told me would stop me from having these issues in the future. Dammit!!

SOOOO... here it is..Friday night after a long week..and I want to play with my toy. NOPE. I spent 52 minutes on the phone, on hold and arguing with 3 different people at Fedup- I have 4 choices-

#1- I drive an hour EACH WAY to the hub to pick up something I PAID THEM TO SHIP.

#2- I wait around all day tomorrow, on MY Saturday for a driver to show up and sign for it. Which means FU to any plans my wife and I had..

#3- They try delivery again on Monday, (oh wait, I have a job..sorry)...then retry on Tuesday (same ****)...after 3 tries, it gets sent back to PSA...

#4- I redirect the shipping to another address of someone who can sign- my closest person who can be home (thankfully works from home) is my sister who works from home- 50 minutes away- each way.

I know both Fedex and PSA is trying to limit liability, but if I signed a liability waiver at FedFux, which they told me would stop this crap, drove an hour each way to do so... then WTF.

Very frustrating. I should be playing with my toy- not taking off work, or wasting my Saturday.

I wish fedex would be smart and say "hey it's a weekday and people work. Let me schedule home deliveries that require a signature in the afternoon". I had to have mine held at a FedEx office store for the same reason as you. Everyone at the house is at work during the week. Ups has never attempted to deliver anything to my house at 10am that requires a signature. FedEx seems to think we all live off the government and can sit around all day like a retired person. At least in my area.

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No 2nd S3000 for me today.

Even though I thought I was on good terms with my delivery guy..and I had expressed with him in the past to leave any package requiring signature...explaining I have a job, am always at work while he delivers..and nobody else besides my wife and I live here..., I have already went to their hub and signed a release form, which I was told would solve the problem of them having liability, ...and I even put a note for the delivery guy, I know the box is heavy- saying to sign for me and leave it..and I taped $10 to the sign... go buy a beer...

Nope. I came home to a stupid notice. Signature required.

I am frustrated. I payed for the shipping. PSA did not. I paid for the product. So essentially PSA no longer owns it, I do. And I paid to have it shipped to MY house. *I* paid Fedex, not PSA. I understand that both PSA and FedUp are trying to limit their liability- but I already drive an hour EACH way to their hub to sign a waver that they told me would stop me from having these issues in the future. Dammit!!

SOOOO... here it is..Friday night after a long week..and I want to play with my toy. NOPE. I spent 52 minutes on the phone, on hold and arguing with 3 different people at Fedup- I have 4 choices-

#1- I drive an hour EACH WAY to the hub to pick up something I PAID THEM TO SHIP.

#2- I wait around all day tomorrow, on MY Saturday for a driver to show up and sign for it. Which means FU to any plans my wife and I had..

#3- They try delivery again on Monday, (oh wait, I have a job..sorry)...then retry on Tuesday (same ****)...after 3 tries, it gets sent back to PSA...

#4- I redirect the shipping to another address of someone who can sign- my closest person who can be home (thankfully works from home) is my sister who works from home- 50 minutes away- each way.

I know both Fedex and PSA is trying to limit liability, but if I signed a liability waiver at FedFux, which they told me would stop this crap, drove an hour each way to do so... then WTF.

Very frustrating. I should be playing with my toy- not taking off work, or wasting my Saturday.
Did he take the money?

Like 10 years ago I signed up to have Fedex leave all packages at my door, even those that require signature (it may have been an online form I dont remember). Since then only once have they required me to sign for a package and that was one that contained alcohol.
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Man that is a bummer. I know I would be highly upset.
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