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pretsam's Avatar pretsam 10:58 AM 05-09-2013
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Yeah, I knew from experience that moving a sub with rubber feet is difficult, especially on carpet. So, in preparation for the arrival of my XS30, I picked up those sliders. As soon as I un-boxed it, I put those under the feet. From there it was very easy to move it around.

Ha. I always used a blanket but sliders would be even easier. One day I'll get them when I remember to when we are out and about. Going to try some different placements with my 2 XS30s some time. Right now they are stacked.

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I have to agree. Pictures don't really do justice to that finish. It looks a lot nicer in person. I like it.

+1 love the finish of the subs. They blend into rooms fairly easy I think. Plus they seem they can take a little bit of a beating or knock and not have to be worried about a blemish.

tboe77's Avatar tboe77 11:04 AM 05-09-2013
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+1 love the finish of the subs. They blend into rooms fairly easy I think. Plus they seem they can take a little bit of a beating or knock and not have to be worried about a blemish.

Exactly. And, as others have mentioned, I never cared for gloss black. Looks nice in pictures, but in the real world, you see every smudge or fingerprint, and the reflected light is annoying.
ahblaza's Avatar ahblaza 11:53 AM 05-09-2013
Guys, thanks for all the replies for sub EQ, but you have to understand that I have no experience what so ever with anti-mode. Do you think I can get the hang off it. What else is required besides the actual anti-mode unit. Thanks for your patience,
Cheers Jeff tongue.gif
Joshjp's Avatar Joshjp 12:08 PM 05-09-2013
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Guys, thanks for all the replies for sub EQ, but you have to understand that I have no experience what so ever with anti-mode. Do you think I can get the hang off it. What else is required besides the actual anti-mode unit. Thanks for your patience,
Cheers Jeff tongue.gif
The AntiMode is easy, all you do is have to press 2 buttons simultaneously and it does the rest... that's all.
Brian Fineberg's Avatar Brian Fineberg 12:09 PM 05-09-2013
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Guys, thanks for all the replies for sub EQ, but you have to understand that I have no experience what so ever with anti-mode. Do you think I can get the hang off it. What else is required besides the actual anti-mode unit. Thanks for your patience,
Cheers Jeff tongue.gif

just make sure you have 2 sub cables....one from AVR sub out to antimode in...then antimode out to sub in.

turn down the gain on the sub and run the antimode (put the supplied mic to MLP) and let it do its thing...

thats it...then re-run audyssey if you have it...then you should be in bass bliss smile.gif
walke108's Avatar walke108 12:10 PM 05-09-2013
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Originally Posted by elvinps2626 View Post

Hello guys
I've join the PSA family I bought a xv15 it arrived in Miami now I have to wait for it to be shipped to my country have to wait 15 days. My last subwoofer is a BIC F12 I cannot imagine the difference between the two. I have a Denon 1612 will the automation calibration from the Denon will it be good enough my room size is 13x12x9 or do I need to buy something else to calibrate for my room. Or do I need the anti mode 8033.
I would just start off with Audyssey and see if you are satisfied with the results. Depending on how much of a perfectionist you are, you may want to look at the anti mode in the future. I think there are plenty of satisfied customer using only Audyssey...like I said, I would try it first with just Audyssey. If you are happy with the results leave it and enjoy. If not, there are plenty of people that can help you out with the anti mode.
Joshjp's Avatar Joshjp 12:21 PM 05-09-2013
Just got my second XV-30 YAY
Joshjp's Avatar Joshjp 12:25 PM 05-09-2013
How do you make it so you can see your GEAR LIST when you post a message?.
JasonT35's Avatar JasonT35 12:50 PM 05-09-2013
Quick question about the anti-mode. I bought a xv-15 from Tom about 6 months ago and love it. I am considering getting one more xv-15 as my room is 16x17x13, with a large opening to the dining room and kitchen. I currently have the sub in the back half of the room near the couch. I have a Denon 2113ci which has multieq xt, but was considering upgrading to the new denon model with multieqxt32 because I may add another subwoofer. After reading the past few posts about the antimode, I'm curious, would I be better off getting the antimode rather than a brand new receiver with xt 32?

If I went with the antimode, do I just run this first and let it calibrate the sub and then run multieq xt after?
elvinps2626's Avatar elvinps2626 01:53 PM 05-09-2013
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Congrats man you will enjoy it.
Congrats and welcome to the fam! Where does it have to be shipped off to?
To the Dominican Republic
elvinps2626's Avatar elvinps2626 02:02 PM 05-09-2013
Thanks for the help guys, I'll do the audyssy to see if I like it but at the end ill probably will get the Antimode because in the back of my head I will know that I can get better results with the Antimode.
Brian Fineberg's Avatar Brian Fineberg 02:09 PM 05-09-2013
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Originally Posted by JasonT35 View Post

Quick question about the anti-mode. I bought a xv-15 from Tom about 6 months ago and love it. I am considering getting one more xv-15 as my room is 16x17x13, with a large opening to the dining room and kitchen. I currently have the sub in the back half of the room near the couch. I have a Denon 2113ci which has multieq xt, but was considering upgrading to the new denon model with multieqxt32 because I may add another subwoofer. After reading the past few posts about the antimode, I'm curious, would I be better off getting the antimode rather than a brand new receiver with xt 32?

If I went with the antimode, do I just run this first and let it calibrate the sub and then run multieq xt after?
Exactly. You run anti mode. Then run audyssey with the actinide in the chain

I was blown away by the results. I had a huge peak from 40-70 and it tames it immensely
BeeMan458's Avatar BeeMan458 02:13 PM 05-09-2013
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Thanks for the help guys, I'll do the audyssy to see if I like it but at the end ill probably will get the Antimode because in the back of my head I will know that I can get better results with the Antimode.

As an owner of the 8033S II, my recommendation is don't forget to give the miniDSP, 2x4 consideration. The miniDSP marries up nicely with REW so one has the ability to run Audyssey and then using REW, one is able to custom up Audyssey's results which in my opinion, is the preferable way to dial things in.

In our case, Audyssey does some strange things with it's measurements and without Audyssey in the stream, using only Anti-Mode, I can do a much better job of dialing in the subwoofer system but then the rest of the output sounds terrible. Once I bring Audyssey into the mix, the subwoofer section of the REW generated graph goes to poop but the upper end sound marvelous. As tired as I am of learning curves and despite protests to the otherwise, I see a miniDSP in my near future. Hence the genesis of my recommendation.

My only hesitation with the miniDSP, I want to try somethings before throwing money on the table as it was pointed out by another forum member that I may have some phase issues which first need to be dealt with as I think the center channel has gone rogue and is the trouble maker in this sonic Grand Guignol.

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Brian Fineberg's Avatar Brian Fineberg 02:26 PM 05-09-2013
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As an owner of the 8033S II, my recommendation is don't forget to give the miniDSP, 2x4 consideration.
Care to elaborate why?
BeeMan458's Avatar BeeMan458 02:32 PM 05-09-2013
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Care to elaborate why?

Sorry. Just finished editing my above to include a why. biggrin.gif
UltraMagnusZX's Avatar UltraMagnusZX 03:22 PM 05-09-2013
The new version of the XV-15 (without the base-plate) is up on the PSA website.

I personally thought the base-plate made the speaker look more robust and intimidating...so I definitely dug it.
jjcook's Avatar jjcook 03:24 PM 05-09-2013
Looks like PSA updated their site as Tom had alluded to -- the XS15 and XV15 were updated to just have feet and not a base plate. The base plate is still available via special order (for how long the announcement does not say).

I prefer the look with the base plate and hope it is still available in a few months when I order my second XS15!
basshead81's Avatar basshead81 03:55 PM 05-09-2013
Tom, could you shed some light on why you did away with the base plate? Is there a performance gain or was it to keep costs down?? Thx!!

Lol I guess I could of read the web page and got my answer...however still I am curious about any performance difference?
Joshjp's Avatar Joshjp 03:56 PM 05-09-2013
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Tom, could you shed some light on why you did away with the base plate? Is there a performance gain or was it to keep costs down?? Thx!!
Im sure to keep cost down
basshead81's Avatar basshead81 04:23 PM 05-09-2013
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Im sure to keep cost down

they look sooo much better with it imo. glad i got mine when i did!! smile.gif
Jim Cutter's Avatar Jim Cutter 05:57 PM 05-09-2013
I'm so happy that I ordered mine when I did! I like the look a lot more with the base plate & was the only reason I considered a down firing sub. Looking at mine in my room they look much tougher & meaner with the base plate. I've been playing music all day on them at a lower volume to help break them in quicker! biggrin.gif Tom should at least make it an option for people for say $50 as it would still be a great deal.

When Tom said that something may change I was wondering if a new model, maybe a 12" version was coming out. I'm sure it was to save money. It will cost less to make, package & ship since it will be smaller & lighter.
tboe77's Avatar tboe77 06:12 PM 05-09-2013
Yeah. I'd prefer them with the base-plate, if I hadn't purchased the XS30. Good to have the option, though, for those with tight space restrictions.
cpetku's Avatar cpetku 06:26 PM 05-09-2013
Has anyone tried the xv15 without a baseplate. I have two on order and was given the option of either setup. My initial thoughts are the baseplate...


Adds protection for the speaker
Translates the direction of the sound pressure reducing absorbtion by carpet and padding

I don't see ant technical benefit for removing it. Is it that ugly?
Jim Cutter's Avatar Jim Cutter 06:42 PM 05-09-2013
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Has anyone tried the xv15 without a baseplate. I have two on order and was given the option of either setup. My initial thoughts are the baseplate...


Adds protection for the speaker
Translates the direction of the sound pressure reducing absorbtion by carpet and padding

I don't see ant technical benefit for removing it. Is it that ugly?

I love the look of it but on the XV15 I don't think it would matter since neither the driver or the port are down firing. I think it will make a bigger difference on the XS15. Maybe the XS15 should be rotated to fire forward without the base plate now?
lsdec's Avatar lsdec 06:44 PM 05-09-2013
It would have been nice if they gave a heads up. It's a different sub wo the base.

No matter. I will have to look at the xs30 now or SVS.
basshead81's Avatar basshead81 06:48 PM 05-09-2013
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It would have been nice if they gave a heads up. It's a different sub wo the base.

No matter. I will have to look at the xs30 now or SVS.

It says on the website you can order them with the base plate at a extra charge.
sunnymonk's Avatar sunnymonk 07:23 PM 05-09-2013
I think the base plate makes the sub look badass.
I'm glad I got it with the plate.
lsdec's Avatar lsdec 07:25 PM 05-09-2013
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It says on the website you can order them with the base plate at a extra charge.

That's fine. I'll pass on that. Thanks for the info though. How much can that little piece of mdf cost when ordered by the thousands?

It totally takes the character out of the sub.
eljaycanuck's Avatar eljaycanuck 07:31 PM 05-09-2013
IMO, the subs don't look too bad without the bottom plate, although taking it away makes the legs - which are probably still the same diameter - seem a bit "skinny" for the boxes they're holding up. (And the rubber(?) tips accentuate the illusion.)

I'd've gone with "fatter", sturdier-looking legs. smile.gif
cpetku's Avatar cpetku 07:41 PM 05-09-2013
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I love the look of it but on the XV15 I don't think it would matter since neither the driver or the port are down firing. I think it will make a bigger difference on the XS15. Maybe the XS15 should be rotated to fire forward without the base plate now?


why do you say the driver doesn't fire downward? all the pics I've seen show this is the case. even the latest web post shows four legs around the speaker...
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