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Might as well go big. Watching the first mission impossible movie now...crazy that the first film is already 20 years old! Still sounds great, but it's a little shy on the bass like most action movies from that decade.
Wait until Ghost Protocol! That's my favorite. Very dynamic!
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Watched Gods of Egypt last night and was fairly impressed by the soundtrack. Movie was so so but the bass was pretty good.


I agree Devil Dog the bass was amazing but the movie was terribad.


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Quick question for all you guys, what are you running your room size settings at? I have both of mine at large(despite relatively small/ medium sized living room)
Not sure if I can tell any difference either way
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Well im back, i got locked out of the forun for a couple days...

Glad to see all you guys who got subs are really enjoying them. Idk if it's my addiction for the hobby or bass or what but I'll tell ya, every time I hear of someone getting new subs I have this hint of jealousy.

it really doesn't matter the subs. Weather or not mine are superior to the subs someone else buys I still see theese posts and think, man I want to hear or try them! I want to order a pair so I give em a workout to! I want to experience what they are experienceing!! Lol

Anyone else get similar thoughts?
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Quick question for all you guys, what are you running your room size settings at? I have both of mine at large(despite relatively small/ medium sized living room)
Not sure if I can tell any difference either way
Most people in medium size and up rooms I've seen use the large setting for minimal attenuation. I have mine set at large, but in a 5k^3ft room, that's necessary. As long as you don't feel they're too boomy from too much room gain. Actually not sure I've seen anyone that doesn't max out the room size, though I know I've seen Tom suggest starting lower, 50-75% on room size for even medium sized rooms and calibrating from there. If it sounds good to you, I'd leave it on large.
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Quick question for all you guys, what are you running your room size settings at? I have both of mine at large(despite relatively small/ medium sized living room)
Not sure if I can tell any difference either way
Large… but my rooms large so it's almost a necessity. I actually started off with them set in the middle just to try it out and it sounded good but I like large better.

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...I still see theese posts and think, man I want to hear or try them! I want to order a pair so I give em a workout to! I want to experience what they are experienceing!! Lol

Anyone else get similar thoughts?
I'm like that as well. I want to hear all the subs. Ported, sealed, big, small... I don't care. I would also love to get the flagship sub from all the different ID companies just to see how they compare. It's all just part of the addiction.

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Just played around with some subwoofer test videos on YouTube with my new 15V. All I can say is, wow!
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Quick question for all you guys, what are you running your room size settings at? I have both of mine at large(despite relatively small/ medium sized living room)
Not sure if I can tell any difference either way
I don't have it anymore but when I had the V1500 I set it to small BEFORE Audyssey, then turned it to the middle and got good results.

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I don't have it anymore but when I had the V1500 I set it to small BEFORE Audyssey, then turned it to the middle and got good results.
May give this a try!
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Quick question for all you guys, what are you running your room size settings at? I have both of mine at large(despite relatively small/ medium sized living room)
Not sure if I can tell any difference either way


I am using my 15v in a pretty small game room and set it to large. Small will help make the bass sound tighter but I feel like I lose a little bit of power when watching movies.

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club bathroom scene John Wick is the first scene to make my ears hurt and make me feel slightly woozie!

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I guess now I know why I've watched it six times.............
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I don't have it anymore but when I had the V1500 I set it to small BEFORE Audyssey, then turned it to the middle and got good results.
@mnc Keep the room size control set to LARGE before doing any measurements or calibration. This will give Audyssey a chance to EQ the lowest frequencies without trying to artificially boost the low end. After Audyssey and calibration, adjust the room size control to your preference.

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I don't have it anymore but when I had the V1500 I set it to small BEFORE Audyssey, then turned it to the middle and got good results.
+1

Allows you to add a little adjustment to the SubEQ house curve. Only Audyssey Pro allows you to adjust the target curve (closer to Harman/JBL is my goal).


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Tom has recommended several times in this thread to calibrate with the room control dial set "Large". All that means is no attenuation is applied to the signal which is the Native response setting. I think some get the assumption that " Large" means "Boost" when in fact that is not the case. The "Small" setting actually rolls the response off faster below 30hz. So if you calibrate with the sub set "Small", room correction such as Audyssey could boost that roll off back to flat. Then if you adjust the dial back to "Large" everything below 30hz could now have a lot of eq boost added, which could cause problems depending on how much woofage is in your system...especially for those who like to play demo material like the EOT opening scene. JM2C!
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Tom has recommended several times in this thread to calibrate with the room control dial set "Large". All that means is no attenuation is applied to the signal which is the Native response setting. I think some get the assumption that " Large" means "Boost" when in fact that is not the case. The "Small" setting actually rolls the response off faster below 30hz. So if you calibrate with the sub set "Small", room correction such as Audyssey could boost that roll off back to flat. Then if you adjust the dial back to "Large" everything below 30hz could now have a lot of eq boost added, which could cause problems depending on how much woofage is in your system...especially for those who like to play demo material like the EOT opening scene. JM2C!
I've played with this setting and re running audy several times. I THINK with my amp though they do consider it a boost or cut but it might be exactly what your saying, a simple roll off. I actually ended up with better results leaving mine to small and then running audy. I tried both and this just seemed to work better for me.

Now my response is pretty flat and if I want to add some low end I can. Usually I leave it with no gain or in your case a roll off below 30hz
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The G21 amps are not the same. PSA ICE amps are cut only on the room control dial. Again, "Large" means no cut, native response. The point of the room control feature is to match the rooms transfer function(room gain). Setting the control to "Small" simply compensates for excessive room gain, which normally would only be a issue in small sealed rooms. 90% of us would leave the dial set large and never touch it again being most rooms are medium to large and have openings.


I have mentioned in the past that the whole "large" and "Small" label seems to be confusing. I think it would make more sense to people if it said 0/-12db. 0db being no cut or attenutaion and -12 being -12db per octave of attenuation below 30hz.
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The G21 amps are not the same. PSA ICE amps are cut only on the room control dial. Again, "Large" means no cut, native response. The point of the room control feature is to match the rooms transfer function(room gain). Setting the control to "Small" simply compensates for excessive room gain, which normally would only be a issue in small sealed rooms. 90% of us would leave the dial set large and never touch it again being most rooms are medium to large and have openings.


I have mentioned in the past that the whole "large" and "Small" label seems to be confusing. I think it would make more sense to people if it said 0/-12db. 0db being no cut or attenutaion and -12 being -12db per octave of attenuation below 30hz.
Intresting, the gamma 21 is exactly the opposite. There is no cut at all. Small(counter clockwise)is neutral while large(clockwise) is boost

The gamma 18 on the other hand can be cut by 3db I think.

And yes I am aware the amp is diffrent, I was just sharing my experience. I didn't mean for it to directly to relate to the ice amps so sorry if that sounded miss leading or confusing.

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I've played with this setting and re running audy several times. I THINK with my amp though they do consider it a boost or cut but it might be exactly what your saying, a simple roll off. I actually ended up with better results leaving mine to small and then running audy. I tried both and this just seemed to work better for me.

Now my response is pretty flat and if I want to add some low end I can. Usually I leave it with no gain or in your case a roll off below 30hz
With all due respect, wouldn't you get more pertinent discussion and more accurate answers if you posted in the Reaction Audio thread?

Apologies if you actually own PSA subs and I just missed that fact.
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If I had questions about RA subs then maybe. Have you seen what the RA thread looks like lately?

Either way I didn't have any questions so I'm not really sure what you mean. I was only talking about my own experience and although I don't have psa subs I still can relate to the topic being discussed.

I like posting here because the people are cool and Tom and everyone are very helpful. Sometimes I just like to chime in randomly.

With all do respect I don't think many people mind and most people have invited me over to talk despite the fact that I don't own anything from psa.

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If I had questions about RA subs then maybe. Have you seen what the RA thread looks like lately?

Either way I didn't have any questions so I'm not really sure what you mean. I was only talking about my own experience and although I don't have psa subs I still can relate to the topic being discussed.

I like posting here because the people are cool and Tom and everyone are very helpful. Sometimes I just like to chime in randomly.

With all do respect I don't think many people mind and most people have invited me over to talk despite the fact that I don't own anything from psa.

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You're more than welcome here brother. It's just hard to have product specific discussions or offer advice or findings when one doesn't have any of the products being discussed.
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With all due respect, wouldn't you get more pertinent discussion and more accurate answers if you posted in the Reaction Audio thread?

Apologies if you actually own PSA subs and I just missed that fact.
He is living vicariously through the PSA thread since the RA thread and company appear to be rapidly heading toward extinction. I am sure he has learned his lesson on picking the wrong ID company; therefore, forgiveness and open arms are in order
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Fair enough. I was just wondering why we were having extended discussions about RA subs in the PSA thread. The RA thread has devolved into a complete train wreck and I wouldn't want to see any spillage over into this thread.
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Fair enough my friend
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I'm actually really happy with my purchase from RA. I'll prolly be ordering two more gammas in the next month or so.

I figure even if they do go out I still love the product so it's not really a loss imo. Obviously if something broke and I couldn't get my warrenty I deserved than that would be a problem, but as awsome as theese things are I'm willing to take the risk!
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Fair enough. I was just wondering why we were having extended discussions about RA subs in the PSA thread. The RA thread has devolved into a complete train wreck and I wouldn't want to see any spillage over into this thread.
I don't recall any extended discussions about RA subwoofers...

You defiantly won't see any spillage, at least from me that is.

From now on I'll just refer to my gammas as "my subs" that way I won't be infecting anyone's ears with bad words like gamma or reaction audio lol

OR if you guys prefer I just won't mention my gear at all. I have no problem keeping the thread 100% psa. I like PSA products and the company as whole, so I have no problem talking about psa stuff either.

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If I had questions about RA subs then maybe. Have you seen what the RA thread looks like lately?

Either way I didn't have any questions so I'm not really sure what you mean. I was only talking about my own experience and although I don't have psa subs I still can relate to the topic being discussed.

I like posting here because the people are cool and Tom and everyone are very helpful. Sometimes I just like to chime in randomly.

With all do respect I don't think many people mind and most people have invited me over to talk despite the fact that I don't own anything from psa.

Maybe one day who knows...

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You are good here mang....stick around!! I like seeing pics of those G21's and its nice not having to go into the mess of a RA thread to see them.
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