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I personally think a base plate on a XS30 would just look silly. All it would do is add to the height and weight both of which aren't doing anyone any favors.

That's your sense of aesthetics and I haven't a clue why anybody would be in conflict with your sense of aesthetics. Now on the other hand, why would anybody care what anybody else thinks about their sense of aesthetics?
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Also, I'm not sure where the $20 for the base version" originated but it will be a bit more than that. I haven't had time to add up all of the numbers yet but I'd say a $50 upcharge would be best case.

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I took that figure from Isdec's post, #2641 (which, I obviously mis-read). I did try to verify that on the PSA website prior to writing my post, but didn't see a price anywhere for it. My apologies for posting incorrect information.

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Well there's really no point in even worry about it BeeMan because unless you plan on buy a XS30, making a base plate yourself and attaching it to the sub it won't happen.
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Well there's really no point in even worry about it BeeMan because unless you plan on buy a XS30, making a base plate yourself and attaching it to the sub it won't happen.

I never mentioned anything about making a base plate and attaching it myself. confused.gif

More and more it reads like the fashion police are after my sense of aesthetics.
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Will one PSA xv15 outperform two energy s10.3 subwoofers for home theater listening in a 2200 cubic feet room? Thanks.
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My sentiments exactly, MAKE YOUR OWN BASE PLATE, again I will say, I can't imagine a base plate on my XS30s:eek:
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I dont know about you guys, but whats under the sub isnt what counts, its whats on top that matters!
This is what I am putting on top of one of mine. ;-)

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Hey guys I got a question. Would this be a bad idea? Place my XV30 behind the couch and my HSU VTF3 MK4 in the front corner. Obviously I would turn the gain down on the HSU since it would lose steam and bottom out before the XV30. But what do you guys think of that?
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My sentiments exactly, MAKE YOUR OWN BASE PLATE, again I will say, I can't imagine a base plate on my XS30s:eek:

Right. The XS30 is the worst looking out of the 4 models. You can't imagine a base plate on that box w the plain looking grills? Lets keep it real here.

The idea of quality dual 15" woofers powered by a solid amp in a thick cabinet is the draw..certainly not the design. And yes it's why it's at such a good price point.

Maybe we are talking about putting lipstick on a pig here. But scoffing at the idea of putting a base plate on a plain box based on the look of the other 3 much better looking subs is not far fetched.

Well now it's just one. No matter though. Looks like PSA is moving away from this signature design anyway. But my decision to order the xs30 won't be based on its beautiful box. smile.gif
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They are not moving away by choice. They could have raised the price and not give the consumer a choice and called it a day. No they are giving us a choice, matter of fact they are not moving away at all. You still can buy the sub with a base plate, they still sell it. So your argument is invalid. Now you have a choice of which one you want, but at the same time they are not going against their values. American made product and a great value. Nuff said about this topic, get over it.

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Right. The XS30 is the worst looking out of the 4 models. You can't imagine a base plate on that box w the plain looking grills? Lets keep it real here.

The idea of quality dual 15" woofers powered by a solid amp in a thick cabinet is the draw..certainly not the design. And yes it's why it's at such a good price point.

Maybe we are talking about putting lipstick on a pig here. But scoffing at the idea of putting a base plate on a plain box based on the look of the other 3 much better looking subs is not far fetched.

Well now it's just one. No matter though. Looks like PSA is moving away from this signature design anyway. But my decision to order the xs30 won't be based on its beautiful box. smile.gif

Keep in mind that the only reason the other three subs had a base plate was because of the downward firing design. Do you think PSA would have ever put base plates on them if they were front firing?
Not likely, and since the XS30 isn't downward firing they obviously never intended to have a base plate on it.
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Keep in mind that the only reason the other three subs had a base plate was because of the downward firing design. Do you think PSA would have ever put base plates on them if they were front firing?
Not likely, and since the XS30 isn't downward firing they obviously never intended to have a base plate on it.

No i do not ...I agree with you. But based on the recent response, what was the point of it? It sounds better without it, right?

So, in essence it had to be an aesthetic decision vs. a functional/performance decision in the first place.
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So anyways back to my question. Would it be bad to have my HSU VTF3 MK4 up front in the corner while my XV30 behind the couch?
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I sound naive here but I don't *think* that has been the case..smile.gif While we have seen dozens of different increases in the past year most are relatively small(50 cents here, a dollar there). It all adds up of course but these types of increases are somewhat expected. One of the main increases for us has been the cost of MDF. I'm not sure if you can find it online but there was a recent piece titled "A Monthly Economic Analysis of the North American Particleboard and MDF Markets" (www.risi.com)

We've already seen our pricing go up quite a bit, and it is estimated to increase another 20% in the next 18 months.

Also, I'm not sure where the $20 for the base version" originated but it will be a bit more than that. I haven't had time to add up all of the numbers yet but I'd say a $50 upcharge would be best case.

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Just do what you need to in order to keep your doors open. If my empire ever goes that XS30 is my first and only option.


No worries there, this isn't our first rodeo..smile.gif

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Will one PSA xv15 outperform two energy s10.3 subwoofers for home theater listening in a 2200 cubic feet room? Thanks.


A single XV15 will extend much deeper and have significantly more output capability in the 15-40hz range. In the upper bass it would be closer as the 10.3s do a good job in the 50-80hz range.

How large is your listening room and are there any large openings to other areas of the home?

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I dont know about you guys, but whats under the sub isnt what counts, its whats on top that matters!
This is what I am putting on top of one of mine. ;-)

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That's awesome..smile.gif

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Hey guys I got a question. Would this be a bad idea? Place my XV30 behind the couch and my HSU VTF3 MK4 in the front corner. Obviously I would turn the gain down on the HSU since it would lose steam and bottom out before the XV30. But what do you guys think of that?


Can't hurt to experiment a bit.

I'd leave the hsu in max output mode though. I don't see the phase-wrap matching up great in either setting(ext or output)....so I'd go with max output. This would give the smaller sub a better chance of "hanging in there" a bit longer with demanding source material.

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What kind of time frame am I looking at if I order an xv 15 and live in PA?
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What kind of time frame am I looking at if I order an xv 15 and live in PA?

We won't begin shipping the new version of the XV15 for 5-7 business days. Shipping would be one day from our Ohio factory. You would have it for the 25-26th weekend for sure.

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Perfect. One xv15 should be more than adequate for a 2200 cubic feet room when used for home theater, correct?
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Perfect. One xv15 should be more than adequate for a 2200 cubic feet room when used for home theater, correct?

Yes, for most applications.

Assuming the room is somewhat closed off from the rest of the home, you can expect extension down to the 14-16hz range. Output capabilities will vary with frequency but in the mid and upper bass....a clean 118-121dB from a corner loaded unit wouldn't be a surprise. In the deepest bass range....a bit less....I'd say 112-115dB down to 20hz and slightly below.

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Yes, for most applications.

Assuming the room is somewhat closed off from the rest of the home, you can expect extension down to the 14-16hz range. Output capabilities will vary with frequency but in the mid and upper bass....a clean 118-121dB from a corner loaded unit wouldn't be a surprise. In the deepest bass range....a bit less....I'd say 112-115dB down to 20hz and slightly below.

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Tom what should I expect for output around 15hz with my 2 xv15's? I was told by a few members as im sure you are aware that 115db at 15hz is not possible?

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Well there's really no point in even worry about it BeeMan because unless you plan on buy a XS30, making a base plate yourself and attaching it to the sub it won't happen.

I would like little thicker feet on my XS30s. That would be my only gripe and its a very small one. Just so it sits a tiny bit higher off the carpet and easier to get my fingers under.
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I would like little thicker feet on my XS30s. That would be my only gripe and its a very small one. Just so it sits a tiny bit higher off the carpet and easier to get my fingers under.

Hey buddy, how are your dual XS30's stacking up, just kidding. With your dual 30's stacked that's a lot of weight on the carpet, have you tried keeping carpet sliders under the bottom one so they won't dig into the carpet so deep?smile.gif

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I would like little thicker feet on my XS30s. That would be my only gripe and its a very small one. Just so it sits a tiny bit higher off the carpet and easier to get my fingers under.

You could always order some thicker feet from Parts Express like these http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=260-772
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You could always order some thicker feet from Parts Express like these http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=260-772

or some mdf to make your own base plates tongue.gif

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Also, I'm not sure where the $20 for the base version" originated but it will be a bit more than that. I haven't had time to add up all of the numbers yet but I'd say a $50 upcharge would be best case.

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Just what I was thinking! $50 sounds right for the cost of the base & to finish it. My business sense was dead on. wink.gif

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I watched Colombiana tonight & my dual XS15's rocked on that movie. Even my wife was amazed at how hard & tight the bass hit! biggrin.gif Gotta love it when she notices how good it sounds!

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