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WOW" I am running each V3600 9 dB hot". I am only 3db hot with the one.
I did take the advice of basshead81 and I have a house curve as well. As a side note, watched the second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on Friday night and was quite please with the amount of bass in that flick!
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Pretty sure he is using a AntiMode Dual Core(AMDC). It has auto eq capability with the option to manually tweak the curve. You can also store up to 4 different curves and switch between them on the fly for different sources.

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I finally did it....I took delivery of two 15S subs.
I was on the fence as to whether I should get ported or sealed boxes. Tom had recommended sealed as I listen to more music than movies. My room is quite large at around 4000 cu ft and open on both sends. With a good certainty that one 15s would not be enough, I got two. I still was not sure two sealed units was going to be enough. Well I'm here to tell you that I am one happy camper after spending just one day with these babies. I was expecting a good bass presence with music, but I was not expecting the room to shake when I popped in the Godzilla BD. When the first good LFE kicked in....I was startled...but at the same time I smiled knowing that my search is over and that I will not need to invest in any more subs. That is unless of course my wife would like another coffee table or end stand. I already told her I know where to get her some good black end stands

So, i will say this to anybody considering a new sub from PSA....do not under estimate the 15s (or s1500)....especially if you are going to dual them.
Hats off to you guys that have the larger PSA subs....you have a monster that I would be hesitant to unleash
Thanks for this post, I just ordered a pair of S1500s in cordovan for the HT room. It is open to the kitchen and rest of house from one end and I think its about 2500 sq. ft otherwise, I think it will sound really good. I have a Denon X4000 so when the subs arrive I will get everything set up with Audyssey. I have to root around and see if I have two long sub cables, may have to order a 2nd from monoprice.com
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Thanks for this post, I just ordered a pair of S1500s in cordovan for the HT room. It is open to the kitchen and rest of house from one end and I think its about 2500 sq. ft otherwise, I think it will sound really good. I have a Denon X4000 so when the subs arrive I will get everything set up with Audyssey. I have to root around and see if I have two long sub cables, may have to order a 2nd from monoprice.com
If you are like me...you won't be disappointed. Pretty sure that if I had the same space to fill in the basement (with concrete floors) I would need the big boys. But the dual 15s's do very good in my large room upstairs.
Congrats on your purchase...have fun!
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Have a question for you guys i am demoing two Pb2000's which i love so far. But the thing in the back of my mind is to demo the dual s1500's. For the little money difference and on paper it looks like the s1500 plays louder by a few db's between 16hz to about 25hz is this true without room gain. Also i know technically most believe there is no difference between sealed and ported after some high end treated rooms i been to this weekend for demos's they said they will never go ported i just wanted to get your advise on this decision. Music and movies 50/50. Also do you think the s1500 is better than the pb 2000 ?

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Have a question for you guys i am demoing two Pb2000's which i love so far. But the thing in the back of my mind is to demo the dual s1500's. For the little money difference and on paper it looks like the s1500 plays louder by a few db's between 16hz to about 25hz is this true without room gain. Also i know technically most believe there is no difference between sealed and ported after some high end treated rooms i been to this weekend for demos's they said they will never go ported i just wanted to get your advise on this decision. Music and movies 50/50. Also do you think the s1500 is better than the pb 2000 ?
How big is your room?

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Have a question for you guys i am demoing two Pb2000's which i love so far. But the thing in the back of my mind is to demo the dual s1500's. For the little money difference and on paper it looks like the s1500 plays louder by a few db's between 16hz to about 25hz is this true without room gain. Also i know technically most believe there is no difference between sealed and ported after some high end treated rooms i been to this weekend for demos's they said they will never go ported i just wanted to get your advise on this decision. Music and movies 50/50. Also do you think the s1500 is better than the pb 2000 ?
Nah...the PB2000's are going to have a bit(4-6db) more output around tune then the S1500's. Above 30-40hz, yes the S1500's will pull away.
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How big is your room?
About 3100 cubic feet
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About 3100 cubic feet
Tom V could probably tell you if you would benefit from cabin gain or not with that size space.

The alternative would be go to with the 15V.

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Tom V could probably tell you if you would benefit from cabin gain or not with that size space.

The alternative would be go to with the 15V.
He did say dual S1500's would be ok to about -9db volume wise for my space. My question is would the dual S1500 being sealed be the better choice over dual Pb2000's. I understand that people say there is no difference in sound quality between ported and sealed if this is the case is the S1500 still a better subwoofer overall than the Pb2000?
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What's your longest room dimension?

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[quote=basshead81;47045657]What's your longest room dimension?

31.5 wide by 17.5 deep and 9 foot ceilings. So apparently i calculated my room incorrectly. I have 4,961.25 cu.ft holy!

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With a longest room dimension of 31ft you are not going to see room gain kick in until 18hz...So I would go ported. Dual 15v's or V1800's would be my choice.
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With a longest room dimension of 31ft you are not going to see room gain kick in until 18hz...So I would go ported. Dual 15v's or V1800's would be my choice.

Thank you i appreciate your opinion so now i need to decide between the pb2000's or dual v1500's and the price difference.
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31.5 wide by 17.5 deep and 9 foot ceilings. So apparently i calculated my room incorrectly. I have 4,961.25 cu.ft holy!
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With a longest room dimension of 31ft you are not going to see room gain kick in until 18hz...So I would go ported. Dual 15v's or V1800's would be my choice.
With that room size I'll second basshead's recommendation... You need ported subs. I have a large room, larger than yours and believe me I wouldn't even consider sealed subs.

IMO the 15V's (or V1500's) would give you a good bit more output over the pb2000's.

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WOW" I am running each V3600 9 dB hot". I am only 3db hot with the one.
I did take the advice of basshead81 and I have a house curve as well. As a side note, watched the second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on Friday night and was quite please with the amount of bass in that flick!
Please tell me Russ how to imply a house curve and what I need to do it, I have a miniDSP still in the box.

I optimized my bass response for both music (L+R + subs)) and HT (C+subs), somewhat of a compromise, still pretty flat up to XO.

Subs only at original spot



A slight 1/4 turn of each sub, same measurement as above



Center + subs with SDT




I was able to achieve the R + subs response with using the C+subs SDT




Here's a C+subs after using the SDT with each speaker individually L then R then C



OK guys I'm done cluttering up this space with all these graphs. I'm really happy with the sound, I would like to add a house curve for a little more punch, thanks.

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With that room size I'll second basshead's recommendation... You need ported subs. I have a large room, larger than yours and believe me I wouldn't even consider sealed subs.

IMO the 15V's (or V1500's) would give you a good bit more output over the pb2000's.
Are the Pb2000's not enough for this size room?
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Thanks for this post, I just ordered a pair of S1500s in cordovan for the HT room. It is open to the kitchen and rest of house from one end and I think its about 2500 sq. ft otherwise, I think it will sound really good. I have a Denon X4000 so when the subs arrive I will get everything set up with Audyssey. I have to root around and see if I have two long sub cables, may have to order a 2nd from monoprice.com

Nothing against Monoprice but I think you could do a lot better with these, I have some for longer runs and the quality is very good for the price and the RCA connector makes a really snug fit, no worries about the cable getting pulled out.

https://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...dge+sub+cab%3B
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