I've actually come to the point where I'm down to two ... Outlaw or Rythmik. When it comes to Rythmik, it's basically FV12 because I can't afford to drop $1K+ on the FV15. For Outlaw, it's either Plus or EX. Since I can also mix 'n match for the .2 config.
But before I get into that, some responses ...
Originally Posted by cel4145
Meanwhile, there is an FV12 bandwagon going on right now. Very few people have purchased the FV12 and compared it to other ID subs.
I do agree with you that most likely the differences are more minor as opposed to significant. I haven't seen anyone recommend Epik Legend over choices like Outlaw & HSU, and in most cases, even Rythmik, and that's the only reason Legend is somewhat shelved. Epik Empire is a different story! But definitely beyond my budget.
And I also agree that there is certainly a sort of Direct Servo, essentially Rythmik, "movement" going on. Those who've purchased it can't state 1 reason they would prefer Outlaw/HSU or any other traditional sub over it. And those who haven't definitely are attracted ... including me.
Originally Posted by shadyJ
If you are only going with one and sticking with it, I would get the best one you can. I would spend the extra money and go for the VTF3, LFM-1 EX, or PB12. From those I would pick the VTF3.
I was surprised you suggested VTF3 over EX. Any reason?
Originally Posted by DualMono
Outlaw is the safe, conservative choice. Others like living on the edge with the hope of finding something better than the usual "same old thing". Rythmik has provided that option.
+1 ... I couldn't agree with you more. And I probably fall in that "safe, conservative choice" myself. Although I'm still not 100% decided and I'm definitely enticed by Direct Servo (FV12) ... I have to say that this is a big move up for me. I'm going from a $400 5.1 HTiB to a proper Reciever/Speaker 7.1 setup and I'm craving that floor-rumbling bass ... and I think I will be pretty happy with Outlaw.
Originally Posted by shadyJ
I would add that the performance of the Outlaw, Hsu, and SVS subs are pretty well understood, and have been tested and measured thoroughly by third parties. The only Rythmik sub that has any third party testing that I know of is the FV15HP. If Rythmik will send more models of its subs out for testing, we can better understand how it fares against its competitors.
That is true; at the same time -- Brian @ Rythmik does provide some very strong & aggressive numbers. I don't think they can replace real-world testing and comparisons ... I would have loved to have seen a true FV12 vs. Plus shoot out ... but he does provide compelling argument.
In the end, as I stated right above, I'm down to two ... Outlaw or Rythmik. Most likely I will take the safe, conservative, and might I add - tried & tested - approach, and get the Outlaw. But I can't say that I'm completely adverse to the newer, cutting edge technology that Direct Servo is offering. Some folks say it's a matter of db output vs accuracy. And I think I'm leaning more towards db output by a hair.