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Small room currently, roughly 15x12x9. Temporary space. Currently have two BIC F12's, and have some fun money I'd like to play with. Roughly $800-$1300 budget.

I've looked at most everything in this price range, and performance wise, the new Chase VS18.1 appears to be the winner @ $1245. All I've done is read some reviews here, and other websites and forums.

I've considered:
  • SVS PB12-NSD - $769.00
  • SVS SB13-PLUS- $1199.00
  • HSU ULS-15 - $1199.00
  • CHT VS18.1- $1245.00

Is there anything else in this price range I'm missing, or have failed to consider? Mainly movie usage, with some music thrown in.

Thanks for the feedback!

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EDIT PS. Performance wise, it appears as though the Captivators are the way to go, but I don't have $2500 for a single sub!
EDIT PPS. DIY does appeal to me, however at this time I cannot consider the option, even though I'm dying to learn.
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You should consider the HSU VTF-15H. It should rock in that small room.

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Rythmik FV15HP would be my choice in the just over $1k category.
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I really like my VS18.1.
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You should consider a couple of HSU VTF3 MK4s to replace your BICs.
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You should consider the HSU VTF-15H. It should rock in that small room.

I agree - A bit less than the ULS-15 but can be tuned- Probably a bit better for Home theater but I would choose the ULS15 if music is a priority.
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Do your F12's still sound best placed under your TV stand? I saw your HT gallery
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Rythmik FV15HP would be my choice in the just over $1k category.
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That or the SVS PB12-Plus.


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the option, even though I'm dying to learn.

Bummer, because I'd put my money on one LMS5400 over any of the subs mentioned.

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Small room currently, roughly 15x12x9. Temporary space. Currently have two BIC F12's, and have some fun money I'd like to play with. Roughly $800-$1300 budget.

I've looked at most everything in this price range, and performance wise, the new Chase VS18.1 appears to be the winner @ $1245. All I've done is read some reviews here, and other websites and forums.

I've considered:

[*]SVS PB12-NSD - $769.00[*]SVS SB13-PLUS- $1199.00[*]HSU ULS-15 - $1199.00[*]CHT VS18.1- $1245.00


Is there anything else in this price range I'm missing, or have failed to consider? Mainly movie usage, with some music thrown in.

Thanks for the feedback!

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EDIT PS. Performance wise, it appears as though the Captivators are the way to go, but I don't have $2500 for a single sub!
EDIT PPS. DIY does appeal to me, however at this time I cannot consider the option, even though I'm dying to learn.

I am in the same boat and am thinking DIY but twin CHT SS18.1 subs for $1045 shipped is mighty tempting...

I am also considering the HSU VTF 15H and the Epik Empire. That said, I would prefer dual subs vs one.
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That or the SVS PB12-Plus.

Bummer, because I'd put my money on one LMS5400 over any of the subs mentioned.

Not to derail the thread but what sized box would you need to equal, say, am HSU 15H?
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If bang for the buck is the goal I do not think you can beat the SVS PB12-NSD.
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You should consider a couple of HSU VTF3 MK4s to replace your BICs.

Agreed... the VTF-3M4 subs are on sale, the company is solid and well regarded, their products have always received good pro reviews, and the advantages of the two subs should let them outperform any of the others you mentioned.
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You should consider a couple of HSU VTF3 MK4s to replace your BICs.

2 of those comes to over $1500 shipped. That is considerably more than anything he is looking at.
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Is there anything else in this price range I'm missing ...

Dual Epik Legend subs for $899.

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My Apartment HT Setup!

Nice set-up, BTW.
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Not to derail the thread but what sized box would you need to equal, say, am HSU 15H?

22"^3 would be enough, and it would handily outperform the HSU, not just equal it.


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You should consider the HSU VTF-15H. It should rock in that small room.

This has worked for me in both music and movies in 4500sqft. with a lot of tuning options plus delivered to my door at my 1000.00 budget.
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Wow, thanks, to everyone! Ask and you shall receive. I've been given a lot more to consider than I anticipated. I have to say so far, the Rythmik FV15HP, CHT VS18.1 and HSU VTF-15H seem to be in the final running.

From a raw output perspective, it appears to go:

VS18.1
FV15HP
VTF-15H

From an SQ perspective, I'm assuming (since I've never heard, but based on findings across the net)

FV15HP
VTF-15H
VS18.1 (no real tuning capabilities)

The raw output numbers I've seen of the VS18.1 makes it the most appealing from a stupid 13yr old grin perspective, however the Rythmik really speaks to me from a SQ perspective.

Since a few people asked regarding my old apartment setup, I've moved into something a bit less expensive for the time being to help continue saving for a house, so I've downgraded space, put the AV rack in storage, and put the equipment where the subs used to be. The BIC's are now corner loaded. Crappy mobile phone picture included.



Equipment is Onkyo 709, Sammy UN60D7000, Emo XPA-3, Polk M70's, 2 BIC F12's.

I'm so indecisive. How the hell do you decide something like this, flip a coin?
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Epik Empire would be my suggestion (yes, I have one so am prejudiced).

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The sound quality of the VS18.1 is very good. Before I upgraded I talked to a few of the different companies. You just have to go with your gut or like you said just flip a coin.
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I'm so indecisive. How the hell do you decide something like this, flip a coin?

Sometimes, yes; sometimes circumstances dictate a direction.

When I was upgrading from my SVS PB12-NSD, my buddy had dual ChaseHT CS-18.1s and really liked them. I had the chance to see and hear them and, although I was impressed by their performance, I didn't care for the finish. At the time, there was a lot of good buzz about Rythmik so, after some discussions with the Rythmik guys about my needs, I placed an order for two F15s. Unfortunately, the finish was on back-order.

Three months later, ChaseHT came out with the SS-18.1s. New styling, nice new finish and an attractive price, and there was a lot of good buzz about their subs. The Rythmiks were still on back-order...and the rest is history.

I have no doubt that the F15s would have been really good subs, but I know for a fact that my SS-18.1s are really good subs. No regrets.

So, all that to arrive at this rather obvious conclusion: Do your research, make the most-informed decision you can make, feel comfortable with the decision you make, take the plunge...and enjoy!
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So, all that to arrive at this rather obvious conclusion: Do your research, make the most-informed decision you can make, feel comfortable with the decision you make, take the plunge...and enjoy!

This is some sound advice (pun intended ).

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I'm so indecisive. How the hell do you decide something like this, flip a coin?

Missed the part under the photo. I don't think you'd really go wrong with any of the choices suggested. They're all pretty kick-ass subs. I'm just partial to the Empire since that's the coin flip I made (really wanted the Seaton Submersive but my wallet said no at the time).

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This is some sound advice (pun intended ).

I don't get it...


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Wow, thanks, to everyone! Ask and you shall receive. I've been given a lot more to consider than I anticipated. I have to say so far, the Rythmik FV15HP, CHT VS18.1 and HSU VTF-15H seem to be in the final running.

From a raw output perspective, it appears to go:

VS18.1
FV15HP
VTF-15H

From an SQ perspective, I'm assuming (since I've never heard, but based on findings across the net)

FV15HP
VTF-15H
VS18.1 (no real tuning capabilities)

The raw output numbers I've seen of the VS18.1 makes it the most appealing from a stupid 13yr old grin perspective, however the Rythmik really speaks to me from a SQ perspective.

Since a few people asked regarding my old apartment setup, I've moved into something a bit less expensive for the time being to help continue saving for a house, so I've downgraded space, put the AV rack in storage, and put the equipment where the subs used to be. The BIC's are now corner loaded. Crappy mobile phone picture included.



Equipment is Onkyo 709, Sammy UN60D7000, Emo XPA-3, Polk M70's, 2 BIC F12's.

I'm so indecisive. How the hell do you decide something like this, flip a coin?

I would be willing to bet anyone of these probably would not end in disappointment.
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Wow, thanks, to everyone! Ask and you shall receive. I've been given a lot more to consider than I anticipated. I have to say so far, the Rythmik FV15HP, CHT VS18.1 and HSU VTF-15H seem to be in the final running.

I'm so indecisive. How the hell do you decide something like this, flip a coin?

This is why I chose the VTF-15H:



For me, it came down to appearance. I knew from the start I was going to make those AV racks with pseudo-VTF-15H doors. Granted, I probably could have done that with the Epik Empire or FV-15HP that were on my list, but I thought the Hsu looked better.

I love it!!!
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Sorry that I am going off topic but what do you use your EMO XPA-3 for because I think wouldn't just the receiver been enough to power your Monitor 70 since they can't handle much or does the External Amp really makes a big difference because I have the Polk RTI 12 and I only use my Onkyo NR609 to power them Bi Amped, is an external amp like the XPA-3 really worth it? Does it really make a big difference? Thanks
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Sorry that I am going off topic but what do you use your EMO XPA-3 for because I think wouldn't just the receiver been enough to power your Monitor 70 since they can't handle much or does the External Amp really makes a big difference because I have the Polk RTI 12 and I only use my Onkyo NR609 to power them Bi Amped, is an external amp like the XPA-3 really worth it? Does it really make a big difference? Thanks

The XPA-3 actually made a pretty big difference on mine. I had mine bi-amped previously too. You'd be surprised what 200watts per channel will do for speakers compared to what the receiver is putting out, even bi-amped. It made a really big difference with the center channel, also.
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This is why I chose the VTF-15H:



For me, it came down to appearance. I knew from the start I was going to make those AV racks with pseudo-VTF-15H doors. Granted, I probably could have done that with the Epik Empire or FV-15HP that were on my list, but I thought the Hsu looked better.

I love it!!!

lol those are some pretty sweet doors!
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This is why I chose the VTF-15H:

For me, it came down to appearance. I knew from the start I was going to make those AV racks with pseudo-VTF-15H doors. Granted, I probably could have done that with the Epik Empire or FV-15HP that were on my list, but I thought the Hsu looked better.

I love it!!!

That's a beautiful sight man!

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There's a few PB12-Plus's on SVS's outlet page, that's where I got mine.

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