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Old 02-21-2012, 07:23 PM
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Wow HSU is no joke, ordered the sub this morning on the phone and just a little bit ago got a email from Fed Ex stating its been shipped with tracking number.

I got mine early morning on the fourth day after getting a tracking no.
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My PB12 comes Thursday, I'm very much ready for it!
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Don't forget to post a lot of Pictures, E-A-G-L-E-S! Still not many pictures around of the new PB12-NSD even though it's been out for a number of months.
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Will do, I'll take shots from unpacking through to playing.
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Wow HSU is no joke, ordered the sub this morning on the phone and just a little bit ago got a email from Fed Ex stating its been shipped with tracking number.

They shipped my new sub on President's Day. They always answer the phone and take the time to answer questions too and they never seem put not on the phone like some other companies.

I would say the same for SVS. Can't say the same for other ID companies.
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SVS is open on the weekends too, which is a big plus. Unsure if you contact HSU if they would still get back to you on the weekend even thought their site says closed.
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SVS is open on the weekends too, which is a big plus. Unsure if you contact HSU if they would still get back to you on the weekend even thought their site says closed.

SVS hA great customer service. I have owned their products in the past and have always had great support and a great warranty. Total peace of mind.
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SVS hA great customer service. I have owned their products in the past and have always had great support and a great warranty. Total peace of mind.

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I own a sub from both companies and have wonderful things to say about both
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Like a kid on Christmas I took the afternoon off. Within twenty minutes of being home the doorbell rang!
I was very close to being so disappointed. The first few songs were completely lackluster. Then, .
Something must have needed warming up.
Now, of course my battery in my SPL meter died since the last time I used it, so no measurements yet.
I will be posting pics this evening and some numbers.
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Congrats! Awesome!! Has your roof and/or floor imploded yet? How do you like it thus far? Has it met your expectation(s) ?
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Like a kid on Christmas I took the afternoon off. Within twenty minutes of being home the doorbell rang!
I was very close to being so disappointed. The first few songs were completely lackluster. Then, .
Something must have needed warming up.
Now, of course my battery in my SPL meter died since the last time I used it, so no measurements yet.
I will be posting pics this evening and some numbers.

Haha. Awesome. The SVS units have flat bass response. It took me a bit to get used to.

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The first few songs were completely lackluster. Then, .
Something must have needed warming up.

FWIW, I found that my PB12-NSD sounded better/stronger after a few hours of break-in.

YMMV.

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The SVS units have flat bass response.

Yup. I had a change to graph the FR in my room with my buddy's Omnimic and, IIRC correctly, the curve was pretty flat, with a good-sized hump between ~18-23Hz (tuning frequency + room gain?). I never found the PB12 to have as much mid-bass "slam" as I thought it should, and I guess that's because of i) the flat FR and ii) the size of my room. (Hence my current dual 18s. ) I think dual PB12s would have done the trick...unfortunately, I never had the chance to test out my theory.
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Haha. Awesome. The SVS units have flat bass response. It took me a bit to get used to.

Im actually speaking of output, before my meter died I saw a 7dB increase on a particular song. It was the very first song played and then the 7th after I noticed the 5th and 6th both started increasing dB significantly.
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The 5lb grille ontop of the PB12-NSD, which isnext to oneof my old Infinity 8's.





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I'm no expert but that looks like a very well crafted/made subwoofer for the money. Thanks for sharing the pics!

How does it sound?!?
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Sounds very solid, disappears quickly for a ported sub and it rumbles all the hanging "things" and even some things secured to wood.
Much more to come...
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I guess the name of this thread should be changed to I love my new PB12nsd.
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Here is my new PB12 NSD next to my Sunfire True signature sub.

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For a 12" single front ported sub the PB12-NSD is a monster!... and this new revision is smaller than the last one.
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It has some girth...but it pales compared to my last DIY Tempest-X sealed.(~6.2 cu ft)
This, I believe is ~3.8 cu ft.
Certainly not small though.

chasls2....corner loading or do you have dual pb12's?
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My PB12 comes Thursday, I'm very much ready for it!

Yours looks great!! Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow Can't wait!!!!!
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Sounds very solid, disappears quickly for a ported sub and it rumbles all the hanging "things" and even some things secured to wood.
Much more to come...

Congrats man. Beautiful looking sub and I am sure you will enjoy it.
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To those of you who have auditioned and or owned an SVS PB12-NSD, did anyone ever regret their choice? As in, they ended up going bigger to find what they were looking for?
(for say 2500 cu ft spaces or less)

Though I didn't have an NSD, I did buy a 20-39-Plus and quickly upped it to a +/2. If nothing else, these introduced me to monster subs that you won't hear shopping in the traditional outlets. They also got me reading and contributing to this forum for the last 6 years and this introduced me to other people in my area. I had some fun times over at RMK!'s house. My only regret was it took me so long to buy a good sub. Can't tell you how many movies I watched with my old JBL PSW-120 and wasn't getting the full impact of the LFE.

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No love for Dual 12" Epik Legends at $899 round here? I'm close to pullin the trigger on the VTF-3 MK-4, but the price of the Epiks is soooo tempting.

Any comments?
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No love for Dual 12" Epik Legends at $899 round here? I'm close to pullin the trigger on the VTF-3 MK-4, but the price of the Epiks is soooo tempting.

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I think some people have been scared away by the testimonials about amp failures in the Epik Owners Thread as of late. Although when I read the thread fairly carefully a few months ago, it seemed the Empire was the one with the amp problems. Research carefully in that thread and make your own assessment.

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I think some people have been scared away by the testimonials about amp failures in the Epik Owners Thread as of late. Although when I read the thread fairly carefully a few months ago, it seemed the Empire was the one with the amp problems. Research carefully in that thread and make your own assessment.

I read through about 9 months of the Epik thread when I was about 80% certain I would be buying an Empire. You are correct. It seemed to me that the Empire was having more failures than the Legend, and, coming from an eD subwoofer, it was a big red flag. And, like eD, Epik seemed inconsistent in answering phones and email when there were issues (I think they are just a small company). That said, I did call the company and the picked up on the second attempt and I spoke with the owner Chad for 20 minutes and really liked him. From the thread it also seemed like that he took care of every single issue (once you got in touch with him) and stood by the warranty and the product. So it was still a really tough decision with me, and I might have gambled had I not been an eD customer the last three years and have been concerned about amp and driver issues...
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Since he's seems to be inviting criticism of Epik in a SVS PB12-NSD lovefest, I'll also add something as basic as customer support. SVS and Hsu bend over backwards for their customers, and will assist you in getting the most out of your equipment.

My SVS had one of the early Sledge amps which produce a very slight hiss if you are close to the sub. It's due to the noise floor of the amp. It was a design choice but a few customers weren't happy with this hissing noise. I contacted SVS and within a hour, they explained that I could get a replacement amp free of charge *just if it bothers me* because they reduced the noise in later models. The replacement was painless and they provided shipping both ways. I know when I have a more serious issue, they will take care of me.

I never ended up buying a Hsu but they were extremely prompt in responding when it came to questions as well.

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It has some girth...but it pales compared to my last DIY Tempest-X sealed.(~6.2 cu ft)
This, I believe is ~3.8 cu ft.
Certainly not small though.

chasls2....corner loading or do you have dual pb12's?

It's in the corner. This is in my bedroom. One is enough for my taste.

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