Originally Posted by Steve1981
Except that you're not actually adjusting the volume control, and that's why its technically considered clipping, even if it is a relatively benign form compared to what you consider clipping. The signal goes through the limiter and anything above a certain threshold gets compressed, thus the waveform gets a haircut. That's clipping.
You mean like NAD soft clipping???http://nadelectronics.com/articles/S...nical-Features
Yeah, I hate it when people link to definitions that don't help my argument too.
So are you saying that every CD that was mastered using a limiter or compressor is clipped? I just don't think so. By your definition, probalby over half of the individual tracks on any modern recording are "clipped" because they were limited or compressed at recording and the overall mix is itself re-clipped because it's been passed through compression and limiting. It's just not correcct, but you go on and be as wrong as ya want to.
Not like nad soft clipping at all. That's a whole different kind of thing.
The SVS system is not using live real time info about what the amp or speaker are doing (that's more like servo tech). Instead what SVS, Paradigm and a bunch of others have gone to is a limiter that works based on a software model of the way the amp (and driver) behave under various conditions. They turn the signal down when those conditions are approached in order to avoid the distortion.
Again, I don't understand how it's clipping if an automatic device simply turns down the level but not clipping if I use my fingers to do the exact same thing electronically. Just doesn't add up. Yo go on though
As to your last point your linked definitions are either too incomplete to be meaningful or not in any wayinconsistent with what I said. It's a little like if I found a definition that said 'red is a color" and announced I will henceforth use the word "reed" to denote the color you see in the sky on a cloudless summer day. My personalized definition is not inconsistent with the little bit of the definition of red on which I am relying, but it's still wrong.
In case, contrary to all indications, you have at least enough interest to click a link hand fed to you, here http://www.stereophile.com/content/m...r-measurements
are measurements of an amp. You can scroll down and see power versus noise plus distortion curves. You can see in figure 5 how the noise dominates at low levels, gettin lower and lower as a percentage of total output, then at a particular point, distortion starts taking over and the THD goes up FAST. That's the behavior that your definitions are attempting to describe. But nobody calls the break point where distortion starts to rise "clipping." Instead, we call it clipping somewhere on the fast rising part of the curve, whether it's at .1 percent, or 1 percent (stereophile's typical number) which would make the amp's power at clipping roughly either 85 watts or 100 watts at 8 ohms. The knee of the curve is just under .001%, at a bit under 60 watts.