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I'm looking at getting a Anti-mode 8033 for my single Epik Empire, but I plan to upgrade to dual subs sometime in the near future. Whether it's dual empires or something different I'm not sure ...

My question is ... Is the 8033S the one I need for duals?

Just want to make sure I get the correct kit for my upgrade path ...

I tried the search function, but couldn't really find a direct answer.

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I don't know if things have changed since its original release, but I think it can only adjust phase and delay for one subwoofer even though it has two inputs and outputs. I don't think it can distinguish between the two outputs.

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I don't know if things have changed since its original release, but I think it can only adjust phase and delay for one subwoofer even though it has two inputs and outputs. I don't think it can distinguish between the two outputs.

I've read a couple different posts, and it appears that the 8033 will combine the 2 subs into one measurement. Some of those posts appeared to be for the 8033 C though ...

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I've read a couple different posts, and it appears that the 8033 will combine the 2 subs into one measurement. Some of those posts appeared to be for the 8033 C though ...

Correct - the "C" will do that, but I don't think the regular 8033S will. Give them a call and ask:
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Correct - the "C" will do that, but I don't think the regular 8033S will. Give them a call and ask:
http://www.dspeaker.com/en/contact.shtml

Good call ...

I'll post their reply when I have it ...

EDIT : LOL! What country is that?!?! haha ... I'll try one of their distributors

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If you split the signal why wouldn't it? That's what I'm doing.
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If you split the signal why wouldn't it? That's what I'm doing.

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Are you using the C or the S version?

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I would get this instead (just hide it, because it's ugly LOL).

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DSP1124P.aspx

You would need measurement gear and REW, of course. It'll allow you to fine tune things better, though, and supports dual subwoofers, whether you apply EQ as a group or individually. It will not adjust phase and delay, though. For that you'd need to step up to this (I call it the ultimate subwoofer EQ):

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DCX2496.aspx

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Drgn95,

Are you using the C or the S version?

S version. Does well with my dual Hsu's.
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I would get this instead (just hide it, because it's ugly LOL).

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DSP1124P.aspx

You would need measurement gear and REW, of course. It'll allow you to fine tune things better, though, and supports dual subwoofers, whether you apply EQ as a group or individually. It will not adjust phase and delay, though. For that you'd need to step up to this (I call it the ultimate subwoofer EQ):

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DCX2496.aspx

I don't own a computer ... lol .. shocking I know.

Is the 2496 any easier to set up than the 1124?

At one time I had gotten far enough into REW to find levels and placement. (When I owned a computer) I never got far enough to adjust the 1124 though ... It literally took me 3 days just to get to measuring levels, and by that point I had tired (read: burned-out) of the hassle.

I was hoping for something much more streamlined ... hence the 8033.

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I'm looking at getting a Anti-mode 8033 for my single Epik Empire, but I plan to upgrade to dual subs sometime in the near future. Whether it's dual empires or something different I'm not sure ...

My question is ... Is the 8033S the one I need for duals?

Just want to make sure I get the correct kit for my upgrade path ...

I tried the search function, but couldn't really find a direct answer.

Thanks!

Some of the literature on the forthcoming AntiMode Dual Core says it can EQ 2 subs or 2 full-range speakers. Search this section of the Forum for Dual Core. Problem with the DualCore is that even with a preorder the DualCore will run you about $925 and after they start shipping in March the cost goes up to $1,200. But the DualCore can most likely do the best job with dual subs.
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Why not just get a receiver with Audyssey XT32? That does two subs individually and can EQ the rest of your speakers as well.
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I'm using the 8033S with dual Submersives. I did use the same Anti Mode last year with Quad Empires with no problem. I do have the new Dual Core on order and it will do one sub or main per channel. Go here for all the combo hookups for the Anti Mode: http://www.dspeaker.com/en/technolog...examples.shtml
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Both the C and S versions equalize all subs as a summed response. The S has 2 inputs, the C has 1. They do to the same thing to the incoming signal. So a C with an external splitter is the same as an S except the S has a softer startup after powering off while the C has a little more thump.
None of the 8033's can set separate distance/phase settings for more than 1 sub as Audyssey XT32 does.

If one has dual subs and an 8033 then it is easier to integrate them if they are equidistant from the LP or if the subs have variable phase control.
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Why not just get a receiver with Audyssey XT32? That does two subs individually and can EQ the rest of your speakers as well.

I've got a integra 40.2 that'll do multeq XT that I bought about 9 months ago or so... Getting into a XT32 rcvr would be , what? , around 1500$ for a Denon 4311 and then force me to sell the Integra ... I'd still be out a significant amount (above 500$) ..

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Maybe the thing to do for the time being is just hold off on the 8033 and put the money towards the dual subs. Once I get those then worry about the room correction.

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If you split the signal why wouldn't it? That's what I'm doing.

yep! that works too,I have a 8033C with 2 Emotiva Ultra 12's,I have the 2 subs connected to a splitter on one output,but there are other ways to connect it.


copy & paste this address
dspeaker.com/en/technology/anti-mode-technology/anti-mode-connection-examples.shtml
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I can actually say I am happy with the bass in my HT,and it's because of the 8033C
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I would think about waiting another month for the AntiMode 8033Cinema. It's not the same as the 8033C.

http://www.dspeaker.com/fileadmin/da...nema-press.pdf

Should be $395, while the even more desirable 8033 DualCore is going to be ~$1,200
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