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With an extension only down to 30hz at -3db, it's not bringing much to the table. You're being charitable when you characterize the PS225 as being good for music. Certainly it's not good for well-mastered pipe organ music!

For organ music perhaps, but the other 99% it reproduces quite well. There isn't a lot of content below 30Hz in most music, so in that regard -- and in overall sound quality -- the PS225 is a pretty nice subwoofer.

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With an extension only down to 30hz at -3db, it's not bringing much to the table. You're being charitable when you characterize the PS225 as being good for music. Certainly it's not good for well-mastered pipe organ music!
Don't take me the wrong way, but were all sub owners pipe organ music aficionados prior to purchasing their bad ass subs or is it the other way around?

I swear, I see so many people mention the deficiency of subs for music because they would lack with pipe organ music that it has me seriously questioning my musical tastes and the fact that I am yet to meet anyone who is enthusiastic about pipe organ music
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Don't take me the wrong way, but were all sub owners pipe organ music aficionados prior to purchasing their bad ass subs or is it the other way around?

I swear, I see so many people mention the deficiency of subs for music because they would lack with pipe organ music that it has me seriously questioning my musical tastes and the fact that I am yet to meet anyone who is enthusiastic about pipe organ music
It's an easy reference to call into question the deficiencies of subwoofers who can neither dig much deeper than your mains, nor play at high SPLs. Those two jobs are the primary jobs of a subwoofer, and anything which cannot do this is deficient.

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In any forum you are always going to encounter purists/idealists who can't possibly conceptualize anyone having goals which are not aligned with their own. OMG, a subwoofer CANNOT BE GOOD AT MUSIC if it can't faithfully reproduce pipe organs! That's why you need to develop a filter and learn to balance your own priorities and needs vs the advise you are getting.
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In any forum you are always going to encounter purists/idealists who can't possibly conceptualize anyone having goals which are not aligned with their own. OMG, a subwoofer CANNOT BE GOOD AT MUSIC if it can't faithfully reproduce pipe organs! That's why you need to develop a filter and learn to balance your own priorities and needs vs the advise you are getting.
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In any forum you are always going to encounter purists/idealists who can't possibly conceptualize anyone having goals which are not aligned with their own. OMG, a subwoofer CANNOT BE GOOD AT MUSIC if it can't faithfully reproduce pipe organs! That's why you need to develop a filter and learn to balance your own priorities and needs vs the advise you are getting.

I was kinda wondering when the enforcer was going to show up...

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Don't take me the wrong way, but were all sub owners pipe organ music aficionados prior to purchasing their bad ass subs or is it the other way around?

I swear, I see so many people mention the deficiency of subs for music because they would lack with pipe organ music that it has me seriously questioning my musical tastes and the fact that I am yet to meet anyone who is enthusiastic about pipe organ music
So true. I'm sure there are more people that listen to rap and electronic music that has <30hz content than there are serious pipe organ music fans. LOL

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Especially in the "budget subwoofer" thread. Sheesh. Pretty much by definition every subwoofer discussed here is "deficient" in some way. The point is to work with people's budgets and needs and find a solution that offers the best selection of compromises for their specific setup.

You get the same thing in every subforum. There are those who think every AVR/speaker combo is crap if it can't output full, undistorted reference SPL. Never mind that the person asking for advise is getting a casual, WAF friendly, living room setup and won't ever go above -20dB
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Especially in the "budget subwoofer" thread. Sheesh. Pretty much by definition every subwoofer discussed here is "deficient" in some way. The point is to work with people's budgets and needs and find a solution that offers the best selection of compromises for their specific setup.

You get the same thing in every subforum. There are those who think every AVR/speaker combo is crap if it can't output full, undistorted reference SPL. Never mind that the person asking for advise is getting a casual, WAF friendly, living room setup and won't ever go above -20dB
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