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The LV12R would be a bit better overall sub, but the $404 for the I-12 seems quite the deal right now. As Mix Master Ice pointed out, either would have plenty of output for your room. If the $180 is a easy disposable income to you, get the LV12R. If you could use the money elsewhere, get the I-12.
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Thanks Mix_Master, can I get a lot more sub if I spend $700?
$700 is kind of a dead space for subwoofers. The Outlaw Ultra X12 is around $720. After that you have the Rythmik LVX12 for $800 and SVS PB-2000/PC-2000 are $800. Those would be a step up from the I-12. Its not until you get around the $1,000 mark that you get a big step up in performance, with there being a few different options in that price range.
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$700 is kind of a dead space for subwoofers. The Outlaw Ultra X12 is around $720. After that you have the Rythmik LVX12 for $800 and SVS PB-2000/PC-2000 are $800. Those would be a step up from the I-12. Its not until you get around the $1,000 mark that you get a big step up in performance, with there being a few different options in that price range.
Thanks! If I up the ante is the SVS PC-2000 the way to go or is the Outlaw X12 better? or the Rhythmic?

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I have the money for the LV12R, that will get me the best sub for the money?
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Thanks! If I up the ante is the SVS PC-2000 the way to go or is the Outlaw X12 better? or the Rhythmic?
I have no experience with the Rythmik LVX12. I had the previous model Outlaw sub and also had the PB-2000. The PB-2000/PC-2000 is what I would go with in this range. SVS also has them in their outlet for $700-$750 often. They will likely be having a sale Labor Day weekend.

Both the Rythmik and the Outlaw are dual ported. This means to achieve the lowest extension you have to plug one of the ports. This can cause higher levels of distortion or port noise at higher levels.

A key advantage SVS offers, which is particularly key for those new to ID subs like yourself, is the risk free 45 day audition period. You can return any SVS product for a full refund, return shipping paid by SVS. SVS also has the best warranty of these three options, 5 years bumper to bumper.
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Thanks i'll will do that. Unfortunately i haven't had what a real 'subwoofer' sounds like so my views might be very basic.
I encourage everyone to put their assessment into a post, however elaborate or simply that might be. The more first-hand experience appears in this thread the better it becomes.
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I encourage everyone to put their assessment into a post, however elaborate or simply that might be. The more first-hand experience appears in this thread the better it becomes.
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What about the RSL Speedwoofer 10 its $300 less than the SVS PC-2000, Will the PC-2000 provide $300 better bass?

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What about the RSL Speedwoofer 10 its $300 less than the SVS PC-2000, Will the PC-2000 provide $300 better bass?
For your particular situation it would really be better to start a thread specific to your needs. That will ensure all the suggestions are focused appropriately. This thread is for products costing $300 or less, not for those with a $300 difference between them.

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For your particular situation it would really be better to start a thread specific to your needs. That will ensure all the suggestions are focused appropriately. This thread is for products costing $300 or less, not for those with a $300 difference between them.
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Apologies if this isn't the right place to ask, but is there a difference between using RCA or XLR cables when connecting your subwoofer?

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What up. New poster/long time lurker here.

Currently shopping for a new budget sub. I moved across the country, and downsized into a smaller apartment so I had to leave my Martin Logan setup in CA. Right now I'm running a "bare bones" B&W 2.0 bookshelf setup in a horribly non-ideal room (high ceilings, hardwood floors, and the worst "L" shaped floorplan you can imagine).

I don't watch a whole lot of movies, but I listen to a lot of music. I have neighbors above and below, so raw power isn't a priority. I'd like to keep it around $200-300. The tentative plan was to sell it when I move again in a year or two (and just chalk the loss up to what would have been basically the shipping costs of moving my system from CA), but I'm not opposed to spending more and keeping it if something is a screaming deal.

Anything available right now that I should consider?
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If you can't play loud and primarily want quality music reinforcement, and especially if you're intending it to be a short-term fill-in sub, you could look at one of the smaller 8" subs like the Pioneer SW-8 Andrew Jones design or the Energy ESW-8, or even the baby Martin Logan Dynamo, all of which can probably be found in the $100-150 range new (or cheaper used). They won't do a lot below 30Hz but they are clean and tight and should have plenty of oomph for a small apartment. They are really nice performers for a small 8" ported box.

If you are OK with buying used get this (assuming you're in Boston as your profile indicates): http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ele/5732354553.html

That's a step-up from entry level 8" subs and is a terrific performer. I've used the Mirage Omni (same as Energy Sx.3 line) and they are excellent.

Most of the budget subs we talk about here are for HT so you get a lot of big-boom-small-budget types like the BIC subs or Klipsch HG, but those aren't going to sound great where music is the priority.

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Yesterday my 7yr son accidentally spilled my wife's coffee all over my Sony sub which I've had for about 14 years now. Somehow this darn thing would not die so I could replace it and it has been one of the last pieces in my HT setup that I've wanted to replace.

My front speakers and center are Polk Monitor 40's or 50's can't recall right now. My receiver is a Denon.

Since I like the Polks I currently have, I was looking at these two subs to get me by for now. Are any of these two good?

Polk Audio PSW108 10" Subwoofer

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10
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if you want a polk the psw505 is a decent budget sub
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12.../dp/B000092TT0

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if you want a polk the psw505 is a decent budget sub
Thanks. If I can get that PSW108 for under $140 open box, do you think it would be a good choice?
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the 505 is a much better choice imho
your going to need multible, from what i have read, of the 108's to equal 1 505

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Hey Batpig,

Thanks for the recs. I didn't even think of an 8" sub. And yes, I am in Boston.

I'm not opposed to used subs. I e-mailed the guy about the Mirage. Asked if he would accept less since it's available on Amazon used for slightly less-- and I don't mind waiting for shipping.
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the 505 is a much better choice imho
your going to need multible, from what i have read, of the 108's to equal 1 505
Oh WOW, that is good to know.....thanks.
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Thanks for the recs. I didn't even think of an 8" sub. And yes, I am in Boston.

I'm not opposed to used subs. I e-mailed the guy about the Mirage. Asked if he would accept less since it's available on Amazon used for slightly less-- and I don't mind waiting for shipping.
Yeah, I was going to mention that $150 is a little high, $100-120 is a better price for a used one. Great little sub, won't do better for ~$100.

Here's a few reviews (note that it's identical with the Energy S8.3):

http://hometheaterreview.com/mirage-...ofer-reviewed/
http://www.soundstage.com/surrounded...nded200503.htm
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Yesterday my 7yr son accidentally spilled my wife's coffee all over my Sony sub which I've had for about 14 years now. Somehow this darn thing would not die so I could replace it and it has been one of the last pieces in my HT setup that I've wanted to replace.

My front speakers and center are Polk Monitor 40's or 50's can't recall right now. My receiver is a Denon.

Since I like the Polks I currently have, I was looking at these two subs to get me by for now. Are any of these two good?

Polk Audio PSW108 10" Subwoofer

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10
The entry level Polk subs are garbage. Really bad, on the same level as the basic Sony sub you are used to. The PSW505 mentioned above is where things start to get good.

Also note that there is no real reason to "match" the brand of the sub to the speakers. There are many other options discussed in this thread, depending how much you are willing to spend.
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Yesterday my 7yr son accidentally spilled my wife's coffee all over my Sony sub which I've had for about 14 years now. Somehow this darn thing would not die so I could replace it and it has been one of the last pieces in my HT setup that I've wanted to replace.

My front speakers and center are Polk Monitor 40's or 50's can't recall right now. My receiver is a Denon.

Since I like the Polks I currently have, I was looking at these two subs to get me by for now. Are any of these two good?

Polk Audio PSW108 10" Subwoofer

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10
So you paid your kid to "accidentally" kill the sub? Don't feel you have to match the sub brand to your speaker brand. The two subs you are considering are not good options. What is your budget limit? Newegg.com currently has the Jamo J-12 for $150. It's only available in wood grain at this price, but it's a nice budget sub.
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The entry level Polk subs are garbage. Really bad, on the same level as the basic Sony sub you are used to. The PSW505 mentioned above is where things start to get good.

Also note that there is no real reason to "match" the brand of the sub to the speakers. There are many other options discussed in this thread, depending how much you are willing to spend.
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So you paid your kid to "accidentally" kill the sub? Don't feel you have to match the sub brand to your speaker brand. The two subs you are considering are not good options. What is your budget limit? Newegg.com currently has the Jamo J-12 for $150. It's only available in wood grain at this price, but it's a nice budget sub.
LMAO! If you said that a month ago I'd be hell yeah I paid him to spill coffee on it.

Yeah, I remember reading not too long ago about not needing to match the speakers with sub brand.

I'd like to stay under $200, even at $150 if possible.
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I'd like to stay under $200, even at $150 if possible.
The PSW505 seems to fit the bill then.

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The PSW505 is certainly better than the two you were considering. The Jamo J-12 is very similar to the PSW505. I've had the 505 and currently have the Jamo J12. I like it.
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The PSW505 is certainly better than the two you were considering. The Jamo J-12 is very similar to the PSW505. I've had the 505 and currently have the Jamo J12. I like it.
I'll take a look at both tonight and decide on which one to order. Does the Jamo J12 come in solid black?
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I'll take a look at both tonight and decide on which one to order. Does the Jamo J12 come in solid black?
It does come in black, but its not available. The $150 is sort of a close out price. It's available in white, but that's priced at $300 currently. The dark apple finish looks very nice, but black is obviously going to be the more common choice.

One thing on the Polk PSW505 that I personally don't care for appearance wise is the front face is sliver. Not a big deal if you keep the grille on, but even then you can see a little bit of the silver around the edges.

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I'd look at some of the BIC offerings on amazon. F12 jumps out like a good bargain. If that's more than you want to spend, the V1220 looks like a good option - certainly better than the Polks.
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I have Hsu HTF-1, looking for something even smaller, not really a sub, just a woofer, something approx 12" square or less? thanks.
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