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Thank, sounds good. Jim, is there a place where all of your reviews are located?

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Where is the best place to get the Dayton SUB 1200?

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Where is the best place to get the Dayton SUB 1200?

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Thank, sounds good. Jim, is there a place where all of your reviews are located?

Most of them can be found here. My screen name is theJman. Pour yourself a cold one - I'm long winded, so there's a lot to read... tongue.gif

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I'm thinking I might need a front ported sub, since it will probably be placed in a corner or against a wall. What would be the difference in sound and clarity with front ported versus rear ported? And what is a good front ported budget sub?

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http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-629

This is bottom ported.

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Some Velodyne models are front ported. I had an old cht-10 that was.

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I'm thinking I might need a front ported sub, since it will probably be placed in a corner or against a wall. What would be the difference in sound and clarity with front ported versus rear ported? And what is a good front ported budget sub?

Most ports don't require a lot of room, so depending upon how close to the back wall you need to place it a rear port might still work.

A port not facing the listener tends to mask some of the unpleasant sounds that are almost inevitable when a bass reflex sub gets pushed to it's limit. The port noise is not eliminated, mind you, but is often less obtrusive.

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So what are the results of a rear ported against a wall? How much space is actually needed? Also, would a bottom ported correct these issues?

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So what are the results of a rear ported against a wall? How much space is actually needed? Also, would a bottom ported correct these issues?
You can run into port noise when any sub is driven too hard. Especially in this price bracket.
12" is usually plenty of room between the port and any surface.

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By "results" I'm looking for how the sound is affected with a rear ported sub too close to the wall. Also, are bottom ported subs better for corner/wall placement? I only have a sealed sub and never had a ported one before.

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By "results" I'm looking for how the sound is affected with a rear ported sub too close to the wall. Also, are bottom ported subs better for corner/wall placement? I only have a sealed sub and never had a ported one before.

The port contributes to the overall depth and output of a bass reflex subwoofer, so it's always best to ensure they have sufficient room to "exhale". If there's a question about whether you can do that, given your placement options, it's best to err on the side of caution and go with something else.

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For example, with the NXG, how close is too close? Would a down firing port make more sense? Most of the "higher quality" budget subs seem to be ported. Are there good sealed budget subs out there?

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My current system has a SVS SB-1000. It's a great sub, but I don't want to pay that much for my budget system.

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For example, with the NXG, how close is too close? Would a down firing port make more sense? Most of the "higher quality" budget subs seem to be ported. Are there good sealed budget subs out there?

The vast majority of budget subwoofers will be ported, primarily because that enables you to get "extra" output from lesser components. With acoustic suspension you need better drivers and amps, which generally cost too much for a budget product.

When I was doing the NXG review I had the sub about 8" from the rear wall, and it seemed to work fine that way. You might be able to move it a bit closer, but probably not too much.

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It probably wouldn't be right against the wall. Maybe 4 to 6 inches?

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It probably wouldn't be right against the wall. Maybe 4 to 6 inches?

6" is probably OK. Not sure about 4" though.

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If there's a question about whether you can do that, given your placement options, it's best to err on the side of caution and go with something else.
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Are there pros/cons for front ported vs. rear ported vs. bottom ported?

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Are there pros/cons for front ported vs. rear ported vs. bottom ported?
In general, no.

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It's harder for your cat to get stuck inside a bottom ported sub. Or for your 2 year old to shove grapes into.

Bass waves radiate omnidirectionally so, outside of the placement concern of a rear port close to a wall, it doesn't really matter. It's just a design choice but shouldn't offer any inherent advantage one way or the other.

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It's harder for your cat to get stuck inside a bottom ported sub. Or for your 2 year old to shove grapes into.
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Ha. No kids or cats, but I have 2 dogs. NXG sounds really tempting. Also PSW505 and (maybe) F12. I'm looking forward to an in depth review of the Dayton, however. Is that pretty much the list of best budget subs? Klipsche RW12 sounds interesting too, but that's a bit too expensive for what I'm looking for.

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Guys , I am getting Klipsch Rw12d used on CL for $275 but its 3 years old and I will have to drive 2 hrs away to get it. Would it be good idea to get it at that price or get a new Nxg 500 bass for $280 (with sales tax). Kind of confused and want someone to help me decide.
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Considering the RW-12d was often on sale for $280 to $300 over the past several years, sounds like someone is trying to recoop all of their cost. Just google RW-12d and Slickdeals, and you'll be amazed how often it was posted as on sale (and it wasn't always posted there either). So I wouldn't pay $275 for it unless it's like new, never been used, in the box.

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Considering the RW-12d was often on sale for $280 to $300 over the past several years, sounds like someone is trying to recoop all of their cost. Just google RW-12d and Slickdeals, and you'll be amazed how often it was posted as on sale (and it wasn't always posted there either). So I wouldn't pay $275 for it unless it's like new, never been used, in the box.
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