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post #2881 of 2924 Old 06-09-2014, 12:46 PM
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I would probably lean towards Velodyne, but you should also inquire about shipping from SVS. You will get a LOT more bang for your buck, those subs you are being quoted aren't worth the money in my opinion.

 

 

the thing is with the courier cost from US to CR and the taxes to get it here is ridiculous, for example the  PB12-PLUS would cost $720.15 more for the shipping and taxes


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the thing is with the courier cost from US to CR and the taxes to get it here is ridiculous, for example the  PB12-PLUS would cost $720.15 more for the shipping and taxes

Yuck!

Got any DIY skills yourself? If you (or a friend) can build the enclosure for a sub (it's a box), that could be the most cost effective way to get a nice subwoofer. The driver and amp alone might not be so expensive to ship smile.gif

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Yuck!

Got any DIY skills yourself? If you (or a friend) can build the enclosure for a sub (it's a box), that could be the most cost effective way to get a nice subwoofer. The driver and amp alone might not be so expensive to ship smile.gif

 

 

Sounds like a great plan, wil consider that. after my conversation with SVS chat they tell me it is $448 plus taxes to ship the PB-2000, still a lot of money


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Sounds like a great plan, wil consider that. after my conversation with SVS chat they tell me it is $448 plus taxes to ship the PB-2000, still a lot of money

Talk with the DIY guys: http://www.avsforum.com/f/155/diy-speakers-and-subs

For instance, the Marty Cube would not cost you too much in driver and amp depending on which you buy, and it might not be expensive to ship those components like a big old sub box. Lot of discussions about the Marty Cube on AVS. Here's one: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1522587/give-me-the-full-marty

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the thing is with the courier cost from US to CR and the taxes to get it here is ridiculous, for example the  PB12-PLUS would cost $720.15 more for the shipping and taxes

That is awful! +1 on the DIY option, it's the best bang for your buck choice and you can build exactly what you need.

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Talk with the DIY guys: http://www.avsforum.com/f/155/diy-speakers-and-subs

For instance, the Marty Cube would not cost you too much in driver and amp depending on which you buy, and it might not be expensive to ship those components like a big old sub box. Lot of discussions about the Marty Cube on AVS. Here's one: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1522587/give-me-the-full-marty

This. There are lots of options on DIY. If you do not live in the US or Canada like me, not sure where CR is, you can build the box yourself like I did in my sig. I cannot imagine a better sub for the money, even twice the money to be honest.
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Lol don't scare him by starting off showing him the Full Marty! He'll think they're all that huge! smile.gif
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This. There are lots of options on DIY. If you do not live in the US or Canada like me, not sure where CR is, you can build the box yourself like I did in my sig. I cannot imagine a better sub for the money, even twice the money to be honest.

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Lol don't scare him by starting off showing him the Full Marty! He'll think they're all that huge! smile.gif

No doubt. LOL

A couple of the Dayton Reference 12" drivers with a Behringer amp and two smaller sealed enclosures would make for an awesome subwoofer setup compared to what he can purchase and have shipped. smile.gif
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Subwoofers

What kind are you looking for? There are great 10 inch and 12 inch subwoofers that are relatively inexpensive . Click the numbers to see some great examples.
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Guys, looking for advice please. My room is 18ft wide x 28ft long. Screen is on the width side. My current 7.1 speaker setup is: Pioneer SP-FS52 towers (fronts), SP-BS22-LR (surrounds) and SW-8 (subwoofer).

Basically, I'm not feeling decent bass and depth. If I increase my sub's volume, it gets boomy, distorted. I tried tips & tricks for sub placement and settings from Audioholics, but not getting noticeable improvement. What do you guys recommend? Is my room too big for the sub? My budget is $500. Should I buy another Pioneer SW-8, go with BIC F12 or RTR-EV1200, or something else? Can I get away with a single sub? My use will be 90% movies, 10% music.

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That room is WAAAAY too large for that wimpy 8" sub to create any sort of bass impact and depth, especially not if you are trying to get sound quality to match the "home theater experience" you probably want if you have a PJ screen. That sub is probably decent for a compact box, will do OK for a bedroom or moderate volume living room type of listening, but it's not a real home theater sub that would complement a PJ screen setup for the full bore experience.

Do NOT buy another wimpy 8" sub, save up and get a big boy sub. I would get the best sub you can -- at a strict $500 budget that's the SVS PB-1000, but if you can scratch out another 100 bucks you are at the Outlaw LFM-1-EX, HSU VTF-2 or similar options.

What I would do is then place the big boy sub for maximum output, and then place the small sub somewhere on the opposite side of the room somewhat closer to the listening position so you don't have to turn it up as high. The little sub can just be more of a "fill sub" to smooth out the frequency response.

If you want to stretch your dollar go used. Can you convince the wife or other interested parties to go to $700? Perhaps sell the SW-8 to make up some cost? If so, there are TWO different Outlaw LFM-1 subs in the ATL for $350-375.

LFM-1 Plus for $375: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ele/4517432470.html
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I would bargain down and try and get both for $600-650ish. Maybe point out to the guy with the older version that someone else is selling the newer version for $375, and see if you can get it for $300. Then nab the other one. Your mind will be blown.

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Thanks batpig. Looks like I need to up my budget. What do you think about a SB-2000 or PB-2000? Which one, and would you still recommend SW-8 as a behind the sofa fill-sub? BTW, I do have a 133" front projection system. I was thinking my Pioneer speakers are fine; just the sub was lacking.

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If you are wiling to spend $700 on the PB-2000 then I would grab those two Outlaws off Craigslist. The Outlaw LFM are roughly comparable to the SVS so you'd be getting two for the price of one.

Considering the room size and your desire for big depth and output I wouldn't go for the smaller sealed sub.
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Thanks batpig. Looks like I need to up my budget. What do you think about a SB-2000 or PB-2000? Which one, and would you still recommend SW-8 as a behind the sofa fill-sub? BTW, I do have a 133" front projection system. I was thinking my Pioneer speakers are fine; just the sub was lacking.
You need 2 subs for that room. Put the SW-8 in the bedroom or office.
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Thanks guys. Any issues in paring an Outlaw LFM-1 EX with a LFM-1 Plus?

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Seems like a great deal...any opinions out there?
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I sometimes wonder if I should up/down/sideways grade. Currently using the only sub I've ever owned, a DefTech PowerField 1500 sealed subwoofer. The amp died a few years ago so now I'm using a stand alone Dayton SPA250 amp w/ a BFD. Back in the day it sold for $1k, no discounts available. The reason I'm posting here is because it seems increasingly possible that a budget sub may actually outperform this relic. Is it possible?

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For the price the SUB-1200 is an amazing value, but it probably won't meet your needs for quality/accuracy. The NXG NX-BAS-500 is a cut above the Dayton, and might suffice, but who knows when that will be in stock again. Unfortunately there's a dearth of subwoofers in the $300-$400 range; there are plenty costing between $200-$300, and then from $500 up, but little in between it seems.


FYI - NXG Support says that the NX-BAS-500 should be available in about 3 weeks.
FYI - Update from NXG support if you're interested in one of these

Just wanted to give you the heads-up that the NX-BAS-500 subwoofer is now back in stock at U.S. our distributor.
It should be available immediately from our internet resellers and very soon from our local stocking dealers.
We have an Amazon marketplace partner that is authorized but Amazon themselves are not at this time.

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Its not available anywhere that I checked.
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Its not available anywhere that I checked.
Available now on Amazon from AV House

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Available now on Amazon from AV House

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Thanks. It must have just taken some time to show up.
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Just an FYI - I ended up going with the Dayton SUB-1200 & wireless module package since I needed the wireless sub module anyway. The package deal brought the cost of the SUB-1200 down to $90 with free shipping. If the package works out well enough, I'll keep it....

If the wireless module works out, but the SUB-1200 isn't up to snuff, I'll move the SUB-1200 to the backyard patio system and upgrade the house sub, possibly with the NXG 500, Bic F12, Bic PL200, or Bic H100 (waiting for Jim's review coming up on the H100 in July).
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I suspect you'll be pleasantly surprised by what the SUB-1200 can do, given it's price. After you've had the opportunity to get it broken in and tuned be sure to come back and post your thoughts.

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Just updating my Dayton Sub-1500 experience. I ended up selling it. Yes it has plenty of volume and is good for a sub under $200, but as time went on, I missed the musicality and deeper extension of my Energy S10.3 so for now, the S10.3 is going back in my main system for now. I was less happy with my systems overall sound with the SUB-1500 than the S10.3, even with HT material. The experience did teach me just how underrated the S10.3 is. It's surprising that a sub for its size has as much extension as it does. Genuine good output at 25hz is a rarity under $300 it seems (and the S10.3 can hit 20hz too, just not with much volume as Tom Nousaine indicated many years ago). It's not the loudest sub in the world, but it holds its own. I also have a bit of upgrade-itis, but since I missed out on the $329 Reaction subs, based on the current crop of budget subs available, it seems like the only thing that will give me a noticeable upgrade is to move up to SVS PB/SB-1000. Doesn't seem like the NXG or the PL-200 will give me any more overall than what I get with the S10.3 (maybe a bit louder overall, but with no better extension and likely less musical). Oh well, time to start saving those pennies.
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Spot on. Most people here would have told you not to get the 1500 to replace your 10.3. The next step, as you said, would be the PB1000.
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I bought an NXG NX-BAS 500 for a friend (hes gonna pay me back) and am having it delivered here. Dont know if hes gonna want to open it here and test it or not but if he does I'll post some amateur impressions. It would be interesting to hear in person how it compares to my Rhythmik LV12r.
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Spot on. Most people here would have told you not to get the 1500 to replace your 10.3. The next step, as you said, would be the PB1000.
Well, I got the Sub-1500 by accident as I ordered the Sub-800 for a small office system and they shipped the wrong thing, so I just moved the S10.3 to the office system and used the SUB-1500 as an extended experiment. I'll move the S10.3 back and then need to decide whether to get another small/cheap sub for the office system now or just go subless there until I get to the point where I can buy the SVS. In any case,I didn't lose out any money from it as I easily recouped the price I paid.
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I bought an NXG NX-BAS 500 for a friend (hes gonna pay me back) and am having it delivered here. Dont know if hes gonna want to open it here and test it or not but if he does I'll post some amateur impressions. It would be interesting to hear in person how it compares to my Rhythmik LV12r.
That would be great to about hear your direct comparison

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