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I'm sorry if this is wrong forum, but I didnt know where to put this. I am trying to sell my dual Lava Subs on Audiogon. This is the email (via Audiogon) that I got showing interest...

mellisa01 asked the following question about Lava LSP-12 Dual Subwoofers:

Hello seller, Mellisa ,i saw your placement and am interested in buying from you but before i processed, i like to know the mode of payment excluding the shipping cos i will take care of the shipping cost, get back to me as soon as possible for me to arrange for the payment.also you can contact me directly on my email mellisa.erika@yahoo.com Regards.

Please visit Lava LSP-12 Dual Subwoofers to review and respond to their inquiry.

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I followed up with an email explaining how I will ship them and got this in response...

Hello

Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from Audiogon.com Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible.
1.Name to be on the payment _________2.Home address__________
City_________State _________ Zip Code___________3.Cell phone
#__________I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days get back to me @mellisa.erika@yaoo.com hope to hear from you soon

Best Regards


I have never sold anything on Audiogon and I dont remember the last time I sold or bought anything using certified check from a bank. Opinions?
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Strangely brisk and impersonal. I'm not saying it's not legit, but it does strike me as a bit suspicious-looking.
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Strangely brisk and impersonal. I'm not saying it's not legit, but it does strike me as a bit suspicious-looking.

My gut says this is crap. BUT, I am not going to ship anything until the check clears my bank account. I guess I'm wondering if there's anyway for identity theft given what information she is asking for.
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Take PayPal only, prior to shipping with estimated shipping cost included, and shipped with signature required. That's your best bet to avoid being ripped off.

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What makes you think this is a legit inquiry at all?

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I would not take any form of payment that doesn't offer protection. I guess waiting for a check to clear works as well, but my bet is that your next email is going to ask you to ship the items before she/he sends the check.
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What makes you think this is a legit inquiry at all?

Because it came from Audiogon. Crappy answer I know, but i figure thats a fairly legit website.
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i wouldnt do it......I have bought and sold plenty on there....not the normal transaction.
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Don't be a victim. Don't do it! Sounds suspicious to me as well.

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It's a mass delivered phishing scam. You will notice no mention of the actual product.


....and seriously, who pays with a "certified check"?
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how that scam works is they send you a junk fake check that looks real and hope you ship the item, another way that is common on craigslist is they will send you a check for like $2000 for a $1000 item saying its on an expense account and to keep the change and of coarse its a fake check.
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Hello

Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from Audiogon.com Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible.
1.Name to be on the payment _________2.Home address__________
City_________State _________ Zip Code___________3.Cell phone
#__________I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days get back to me @mellisa.erika@yaoo.com hope to hear from you soon

Best Regards



I received the same exact response from a craigslist add I placed for a couple of speakers, although the name was different. I didn't reply because they are looking for your info to possibly sell to whoever. I smell SCAM!!!
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Because it came from Audiogon. Crappy answer I know, but i figure thats a fairly legit website.

The inquiry isn't from Audiogon. Audiogon merely attracted the scammer. This is not real no matter how badly you want to sell your subs. Go ahead and collect the check, though...my brother has a collection from all those who go ahead and send them. It won't be real, but you can at least waste their time and postage

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Pulled the plug. Thanks to all!
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Scam.

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Definitely a scam, they are faking certified checks now. They want you to ship it after you receive the check, but the check never clears and you'll be charged by the bank for it as well.
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Bastards
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The internet has turned out to be the best thing for scammers since peanut butter.
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geesh... quit procrastinating, I have sent the c heck, now please send the subwoofer. I have emailed my address already

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It's a scam. Same crap templet them con artists use on Craigslist. Ignore that junk and also report that registered user on the audiogon team/ support group.

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Scam. I had it happen from Craigslist on a car. They wanted to pay me like 20K for a car I was asking 13K for. Saying it was shipping over seas, blah blah blah. I pulled the plug.

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

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I don't want to derail this thread and nothing against Audiogon but.........

when I sell anything it's either Craig's or another local listing - with this caveat:
Cash only. CASH ONLY. No checks, paypal, credit cards, trades, or barter.

If I don't get any bites the first time around I wait and relist. YMMV yada,yada.

Consequently when I buy from listings - I don't spend any more than I'm willing to lose when shipped or wait and buy within a few hours drive to inspect and pay cash.

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The internet has turned out to be the best thing for scammers since peanut butter.

I just have trouble imagining how many must bite on this kind of stuff to keep them coming for more...but once upon a time I used to get the good ol' Nigerian scam letters by snail mail, then they came by fax, now they come via the internet...

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I just have trouble imagining how many must bite on this kind of stuff to keep them coming for more...but once upon a time I used to get the good ol' Nigerian scam letters by snail mail, then they came by fax, now they come via the internet...

I was wondering too how many people actually fall for this.

Some lady that was scammed by the Nigerians got them back by scamming them somehow. She is in jail right now. I saw the headline on yahoo last week.

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Am I the only person who watches 'Teen Mom' on these forums? (don't answer) Farrah got hit by the exact same scam with a car. Can you imagine being the cameraman and not being able to warn her because it is good TV? I won't lie... I laughed as she called the bank and found out the check bounced after she had already wired the 'additional' money.
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Honestly don't understand how anyone falls for a scam. Let alone doesn't see it right away....

It was a clear scam from the 1st e-mail. Let alone the second one. I really hope you did not give any of your information.
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Nope. Laughed as I got another one from CL this AM. Sucks though as I really would like to sell my subs and upgrade to an Empire.
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I was wondering too how many people actually fall for this.

Some lady that was scammed by the Nigerians got them back by scamming them somehow. She is in jail right now. I saw the headline on yahoo last week.

So some gal gets scammed by "the Nigerians" and somehow got them back so that she's in jail? Can you provide more details? The Nigerians were just famous for early scam letters; now you get them from all over the world. Global economy!

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So some gal gets scammed by "the Nigerians" and somehow got them back so that she's in jail? Can you provide more details? The Nigerians were just famous for early scam letters; now you get them from all over the world. Global economy!

Not quite how he explained it....she basically kept real victims money. Scammers lost nothing...so.

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