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OK, have a Pioneer VSX-821K receiver and the Energy Take 5 satellite speakers:

Which of these three subs would be the best fit for this setup

90% Movies 10% Music

1) Lava Subs 10" Subwoofer https://www.lavasubs.com/10_inch/pow...subwoofer.html

2) Bic F12 Subwoofer
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F1...1570528&sr=8-1

3) Elemental Designs A2-300
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=407

They all three come out to around the same price (the ED would be a used purchase as the first two would be new

Thank you so much for any and all info you can provide to me in advance!

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I'd go with the A2-300. I'll also add the Premiere Acoustics PA-150 to that list.

The important question here is this: how big is your room (LxWxH)?

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Either the ED A2-300 or I would add the Energy S10.3. The Energy has an enviable frequency response.
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I'd go with the A2-300. I'll also add the Premiere Acoustics PA-150 to that list.

The important question here is this: how big is your room (LxWxH)?

I will second this.
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Thought I would chime in and add some friendly advise as well. I will go ahead and just "assume" your budget is around the $260 price and your room size is around the 12/14 x 20 area.

At the $260 mark I would suggest maybe these:
1) Bic Pl-200 for $260 or so shipped ( I had two of these as they were very good at HT
2) Premiere Acoustic PA-120 about $220 or so shipped * build quality very good- I have the PA-150

I have seen the Bic F-12 as low as $185 shipped thu amazon and such as I do believe they run specials from time to time. IHMO I would take the PL-200 over the F-12 thou

I have not herd the ED A-2 but it seems to please those who have them.

Lava seems to be IMHO not as a great deal even at $200 as you can get a PA-120 for around $220

Just for thoughts here:
"IF" you are looking to maybe get into a bit larger sub I would highly reccomend the PA-150 but then again its a bit more $ than the $260 as it can be had for around the $370 area ( shipped that is).

Remebr thou... its just my thoughts
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It will be used in my family/living room:

It measures 15' wide by 16' long and has 8' ceilings

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It will be used in my family/living room:

It measures 15' wide by 16' long and has 8' ceilings

Thanks!

Save a bit more and shoot for the PA150.
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As someone who owned an A2-300, I would have two concerns on buying used:
- Amp
- Driver

There have been many failures on the A2-300 amp and it will most likely no longer be under warranty buying used since eD's warranty is 12 months. So keep in mind that a new amp is around $120-130 shipped.

The driver has a warranty (I want to say 7 years) but eD has denied several folks the warranty if you use Audyssey. So if you plan on using Audyssey or other room correction software, I would go somewhere else unless you just don't care about a warranty at all.

I have owned an A2-300 and a PA-150 and would recommend the PA-150. It has noticeably more output and it also looks much nicer. The A2-300 is not the prettiest subwoofer
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As someone who owned an A2-300, I would have two concerns on buying used:
- Amp
- Driver

There have been many failures on the A2-300 amp and it will most likely no longer be under warranty buying used since eD's warranty is 12 months. So keep in mind that a new amp is around $120-130 shipped.

The driver has a warranty (I want to say 7 years) but eD has denied several folks the warranty if you use Audyssey. So if you plan on using Audyssey or other room correction software, I would go somewhere else unless you just don't care about a warranty at all.

I have owned an A2-300 and a PA-150 and would recommend the PA-150. It has noticeably more output and it also looks much nicer. The A2-300 is not the prettiest subwoofer

Its a good thing you pointed that info out. I was thinking about the same thing but since I have never owned an Ed I thought I would just "keep to my own".
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As a former Lava owner, I would highly recommend them. I would also get the LSP-12 unless you have size requirements. With the AVS discount, its only 288 shipped to your door. Counsil had a good review on it and I would agree. It never struggled at anything I threw at it, and if I wasnt upgrading to an Empire or VTF-15, I would have kept them.
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This is what I am talking about! You guys are wonderful! The heads up on the ED is a huge point for me to kind of shy away from it. Thinking now the PA-120 might be the way to go, keep the info and suggestions coming!

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As a former Lava owner, I would highly recommend them. I would also get the LSP-12 unless you have size requirements. With the AVS discount, its only 288 shipped to your door. Counsil had a good review on it and I would agree. It never struggled at anything I threw at it, and if I wasnt upgrading to an Empire or VTF-15, I would have kept them.

With all due respect the measured frequency response of the LAVA 12 was seriously disappointing as measured by Audioholics:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...iew_fullscreen

That frequency response is more like that of a mid-bass module.

For $200 at newegg the Energy S10.3 does much better.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/e...-labs-measures
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Ok now I have had a few people tell me that the HSU STF-1 (dual) would be a great option.

I could start out with one then add the second one at a later date.

What's the opinions on that?

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